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Post by idhoya on Jul 9, 2008 13:59:16 GMT -5
from the kid, it's Yarou.
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Post by prhoya on Jul 9, 2008 14:01:45 GMT -5
Lost in translation ...
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Post by idhoya on Jul 9, 2008 14:08:53 GMT -5
pr,
too many "influences" in his recruiting.
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Post by RDF on Jul 9, 2008 14:20:39 GMT -5
Thanks ID.
In terms of Hoya recruiting--I really think we're going to see them focus on '10 and '11 now and they basically have their top 2 targets in '09 locked up-DaShonte and Hollis were the "priority" guys and '09 class isn't very strong overall--it's a little better then '08 but not by much--however Hoyas did a fantastic job getting big time talent in limited years in terms of depth of talent--which is why primary focus will be on underclassmen.
Remember--III told the fans at the Banquet/Gathering--he really wants to make certain he's got scholarships for the '10 class. That isn't to say we're done recruiting in '09--it just means the priority at this time is the '10 guys--and monitoring '09 guys who will be best fit by time Spring rolls around--I'd expect Hoyas to monitor the roster--for instance if Dajuan were to leave after this season--and then choose a guy who fits the roster best-which is why I mentioned that about Ryan Kelly-if Dajuan leaves--someone like Tristan Spurlock might be a priority--but if he were to commit as expected by next week--then we might see another emerge. It's a different story if Cheek or someone like that wants to come--with him developing his handle/being used at PG some this year--he might be a priority--but as ID said there are other factors there. So could be a Combo guard or SF type that is needed--so that is the thing I wouldn't be surprised to see happen--because the '09-'10 Hoya team is going to be LOADED. If Dajuan stays--then it's best recruit you could get in '09--he's played 3 years, is proven, and will compete for Big East POY/Lottery Pick. (yep, I've got high hopes for his development).
In terms of underclassmen--we know the Hoyas have made these guys priorities:
PF-Josh Hairston SF-Roscoe Smith SG--Jason Morris--he was top priority over Andre Dawkins who never had official offer from Hoyas PG--Tyler Thornton--who has an offer.
Now we know of others with heavy Hoya interest--Eric Atkins, Markel Starks, etc....but the above 4 are priorities. Now after the evaluation process--we could see names added--which they'll get scholarship offers in August after Staff has seen guys throughout Spring/Summer and guages their development--but I'd assume III/Staff has idea of who they already want seeing he's mentioned it publicly how much he wants more scholarships for '10 class.
Does that mean we'll see nobody else in '09 added? No---as I said--look at the possible scenarios but I'd lean more towards seeing someone added in Spring then early at this time. Might be wrong--but this is just a hunch based on III's comments and fact Braswell isn't coming--which gives Hoyas 3 scholarships right now for '10 if he chose to hold off and if more spots open in Spring/he'll know exactly what he wants/needs for next year's roster.
Now watch--someone will commit today/tomorrow. ;D
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Post by capcenterhoya on Jul 9, 2008 15:08:13 GMT -5
As good as '10 may be, I would say that JTIII will probably add two more players from '09. I think that he has to operate under the assumption that both Monroe and Summers will be gone after this year. This means we really need another 4 that can step in and give us minutes in addition to Vaughn. Kelly would be an ideal fit in this situation, and I would say we are still monitoring the African kid from VA should Kelly go elsewhere.
The other need I see is on the wing. While we have Hollis already, we still need to groom another 2/3 to replace Freeman, who very well may leave after his junior year. While '10 may be better as a class, an '09 player with a year of experience in the Big East is still really valuable. I think one of Spurlock or Vinson is being targeted to for this spot. We'll see though, there may be other guys that step up on the radar.
Also, I don't think number of scholarships is an issue at all. Between players leaving for the NBA and attrition from non Big East caliber players, we should be fine.
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Post by MCIGuy on Jul 9, 2008 15:29:03 GMT -5
While I think Monroe won't be one and done, will point out that even if he did leave the Hoyas would still have Sims, Vaughn and Riley. If the Hoyas go after another big its likely to be because of Braswell's reopening his recruitment rather than anything dealing with Monroe's decision.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Jul 9, 2008 15:54:50 GMT -5
RDF - I think Kelly would at least start out as a PF here. While he's not particularly bulky, he's more than tall enough. All the reports from camps seem to paint him as a very good rebounder and shot blocker. Offensively, he's perfect for the system.
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Post by SirSaxa on Jul 9, 2008 16:01:42 GMT -5
RDF - I think Kelly would at least start out as a PF here. While he's not particularly bulky, he's more than tall enough. All the reports from camps seem to paint him as a very good rebounder and shot blocker. Offensively, he's perfect for the system. Kelly would have a place and could be a 3 or 4. But the thing I don't see anyone focusing on is the need for a G in '09. Sapp graduates this year. That leaves only Wright and Clark. OK, maybe Austin and Hollis could play some 2. But we don't have any other "real" guards. I think we get two more guys in the class of '09. One will be tall, the other a G. OK, just a guess.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Jul 9, 2008 16:03:37 GMT -5
Austin can play 2. But I agree that guard may be a need, depending on their view of Hollis.
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Post by idhoya on Jul 9, 2008 18:38:58 GMT -5
I see Hollis as a 2, but a guard and a forward will be needed, hence Vinson and Spurlock, Kelly. Mouph is being monitored.
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Post by prhoya on Jul 9, 2008 23:26:09 GMT -5
Please target Gilchrist. sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/recruiting/basketball/mens/news/story?id=3480285DaShonte Riley, 6-11 C Riley used his quick feet and coordination to make a number of impressive post moves with his back to the basket. He reads his defenders very well and knows how to use their passion for blocking shots against them by utilizing pump-fakes and counter moves in the paint. His post moves complement his ability to step away from the basket for jump shots. As Riley increases his strength, especially in the lower half of his body, he will become even tougher to guard on the low block.
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Post by hoyaboya on Jul 10, 2008 10:19:00 GMT -5
From Dave Telep at Reebok camp:
Terrell Vinson likes Duke, Villanova, Memphis, LMU, Georgetown and Maryland is now on the list...Looks like the Terps are turning up the heat on Terrell Vinson. Gary Williams had his coffee in hand and was out early trailing the forward.
From UNC Scout site on UNC targets' at LeBron:
Roscoe Smith - In his first (and perhaps only) major appearance of the summer, the rising junior from Baltimore showed some glimpses of why he’s been so highly touted. Long and lean, he’s a willing athlete, has a good overall skill level and plays hard on both ends of the court. A lack of strength causes him some issues at times when he’s looking to finish in the lane but he isn’t afraid of contact and keeps coming at opponents. A long strider who covers the floor quickly in transition, Smith’s dribbling is much improved since this time last summer allowing him to handle and make some plays in transition. His production wasn’t always there, but his status as one of the top wings in the class of 2010 looks to be pretty legitimate.
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Post by williambraskyiii on Jul 10, 2008 10:21:44 GMT -5
Mark it down now. Dash Riley is going to be a star at GTown.
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Post by idhoya on Jul 10, 2008 11:09:10 GMT -5
Hoyas is top two for Vinson.
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Jul 10, 2008 11:16:23 GMT -5
who's number 2?
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Post by idhoya on Jul 10, 2008 13:16:25 GMT -5
I'm hearing Nova
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Post by RDF on Jul 10, 2008 13:47:09 GMT -5
Roscoe Smith made the cut for the Nike Global Challenge in Portland--which is the event Greg Monroe and Hollis Thompson played together last Summer. It consists of the top 30 players at the Nike Skills Camp--and I've not heard--but assume DaShonte Riley got an invite--and not sure if Hollis will return or not--because he skipped LeBron camp--but did attend the Skills Camp-so he might be going.
In addition-here's the review of Roscoe from Antonio Williams of ESPN Recruiting from Day 3 of LeBron Camp:
"Roscoe Smith plays with an unbelievable energy on both ends. He really excels on defensive end using his length, quickness, and leaping ability to badger opponents into mistakes. He also does a very good job on the glass at both ends of the court. Smith has to improve his shot selection and become a better shooter. He looked to shoot the ball everytime he touched it wanting to prove himself on national stage. Once he becomes patient and adds muscle and strenght to his frame, he will become a devastating force".
Remember--this was Roscoe's first National Event since sitting out to focus on academics and improving his skills--so he might have been a little overhyped--but still had a nice showing.
NBE Blog had a report of Camp Counselor Games and DaJuan had a pretty infavorable review--saying he didn't do much and they forgot he was there. Doesn't matter to me--if that is case, he knows what he needs to improve and that will serve as motivation.
Texas, Pitt, and UVA are top 3 for Thomas Robinson at this time. He listed Hoyas but is getting a lot of new attention. Not a great offensive player--but works hard and local guy so worth monitoring.
Terrell Vinson likely going to Nova--but Maryland making a push makes sense-they have room and if he wants to stay close to home-this might be his best bet.
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Post by 1227 on Jul 10, 2008 13:55:25 GMT -5
Armwood/Vinson:Villanova::Bethel/Hall:GU - maybe a slight talent difference, though.
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Post by idhoya on Jul 10, 2008 14:21:17 GMT -5
big talent difference
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Post by RDF on Jul 10, 2008 14:24:25 GMT -5
Hope Armwood is doing okay--recent word is he really messed up that knee again. Ron Bailey on HoyaReport mentioned it the night it happened--and someone posted on National Rivals board the news wasn't good.
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