Gold Hoya
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Post by Gold Hoya on May 9, 2008 9:44:07 GMT -5
I voted yes on the hope that it would mean fewer threads on the main page titled only with names of people I don't know. Of course if we could also just get people to title their threads appropriately and/or not create new threads when there is another perfectly good thread already covering the topic it would solve a lot of problems. Clearly the recruiting people disregard the various year threads - I find the innumerable posts with just a name or the like frustrating because a) i don't really care about uncommitted 14 yo's; and 2) even in the offseason there is often a lot of news and having multiple potential recruit threads just clutters the first page of threads. I agree with both of these posts. Since I don't know the names, it's just impossible to tell the difference between a 13 year old who has Georgetown on the list with all the other top 25s, and a 17 year old who is announcing a decision next week.
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Jack
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Post by Jack on May 9, 2008 9:59:39 GMT -5
I voted yes on the hope that it would mean fewer threads on the main page titled only with names of people I don't know. Of course if we could also just get people to title their threads appropriately and/or not create new threads when there is another perfectly good thread already covering the topic it would solve a lot of problems. Clearly the recruiting people disregard the various year threads - I find the innumerable posts with just a name or the like frustrating because a) i don't really care about uncommitted 14 yo's; and 2) even in the offseason there is often a lot of news and having multiple potential recruit threads just clutters the first page of threads. I agree with both of these posts. Since I don't know the names, it's just impossible to tell the difference between a 13 year old who has Georgetown on the list with all the other top 25s, and a 17 year old who is announcing a decision next week. Me four.
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hoyatables
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Post by hoyatables on May 9, 2008 10:11:46 GMT -5
I definitely agree with the idea of a subforum for the reasons elucidated above.
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on May 9, 2008 10:35:48 GMT -5
I voted for sub forum. I think it mkes it easier to have all the reruiting stuff in one place. 1) i think the argument that there would be less talk on the main board is stupid. What's your point? you'll spend more time on another part of the board than the main part? so what? Oh no there won't be as much traffic here, are we going to look bad in front of the other message boards? 2) i'm pretty sure we'll be able to come up with plenty to talk about over here. 3) I don't get the complaint of people who say they're less likely to read a board cause it takes more effort. Really?! you're too lazy to click one extra time?
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hoopsmccan
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Post by hoopsmccan on May 9, 2008 11:29:48 GMT -5
Clearly the recruiting people disregard the various year threads - I find the innumerable posts with just a name or the like frustrating because a) i don't really care about uncommitted 14 yo's; and 2) even in the offseason there is often a lot of news and having multiple potential recruit threads just clutters the first page of threads. so, i vote for a subforum. Agreed. I think the recruiting threads broken up by years were working well for awhile, but now we are back to threads about one recruit and the fact that they wore a georgetown hat one day so we should all be excited. Put it in a subthread and if someone is excited about the exploits of a 15 year old that lists g-town as one of 8 schools then they know where to go. hm
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FormerHoya
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Post by FormerHoya on May 9, 2008 11:33:09 GMT -5
I vote no because I don't see the need. If you feel creepy reading about 17 year old boys, but not creepy about discussing 18 year old boys to no end, I don't know what to tell you. The creepy factor is in trying to discern from the actions of a high school kid who he "likes" the best. "Johnny ate an orange for breakfast! Don't ask how I know, I have a hanging source. OMG does this mean he is a cuse lean?" "No, he had blueberry yogurt in the locker room before practice, he may be leaning toward GU or Duke or Kentucky! Also, he is very well-muscled, especially in the glutes and hams. I really hope he picks us!" Contrasted with discussing the play of the team of my alma mater. Only a full on recruiting dork doesn't or refuses to see the difference.
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Hoya06
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Post by Hoya06 on May 9, 2008 12:40:28 GMT -5
I think there should be links tacked to the top of the main forum entitled, 2008, 2009, 2010. clicking that will being you to a list of threads with each players name. This way we could keep all the info in HoyaTalk but keep it nice and organized. Also people could choose to start reading about 17, 16, or 15 yr olds as they choose.
If this is the scenario, I vote yes.
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royski
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Post by royski on May 9, 2008 12:48:09 GMT -5
I vote no because I don't see the need. If you feel creepy reading about 17 year old boys, but not creepy about discussing 18 year old boys to no end, I don't know what to tell you. The creepy factor is in trying to discern from the actions of a high school kid who he "likes" the best. "Johnny ate an orange for breakfast! Don't ask how I know, I have a hanging source. OMG does this mean he is a cuse lean?" "No, he had blueberry yogurt in the locker room before practice, he may be leaning toward GU or Duke or Kentucky! Also, he is very well-muscled, especially in the glutes and hams. I really hope he picks us!" Contrasted with discussing the play of the team of my alma mater. Only a full on recruiting dork doesn't or refuses to see the difference. A post like that has never been made. You brought up the issue of age, which I found laughable. If the issue is that you only want to discuss the current team's play, then why not subforums for everything else? I'm not particularly interested in coach's contract situation, or in facilities questions, or in discussions of a certain past coach. Should we have subforums for all of those topics, or should we trust the ability of board members to click on topics that interest them?
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FormerHoya
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Post by FormerHoya on May 9, 2008 13:42:15 GMT -5
The creepy factor is in trying to discern from the actions of a high school kid who he "likes" the best. "Johnny ate an orange for breakfast! Don't ask how I know, I have a hanging source. OMG does this mean he is a cuse lean?" "No, he had blueberry yogurt in the locker room before practice, he may be leaning toward GU or Duke or Kentucky! Also, he is very well-muscled, especially in the glutes and hams. I really hope he picks us!" Contrasted with discussing the play of the team of my alma mater. Only a full on recruiting dork doesn't or refuses to see the difference. A post like that has never been made. You brought up the issue of age, which I found laughable. If the issue is that you only want to discuss the current team's play, then why not subforums for everything else? I'm not particularly interested in coach's contract situation, or in facilities questions, or in discussions of a certain past coach. Should we have subforums for all of those topics, or should we trust the ability of board members to click on topics that interest them? Really, my post of intentional hyperbole hasn't actually been made before? I'm amazed. How much different really is what I said above than, "I was watching Johnny in the stands between the AAU games, and he was smiling and laughing along with with the [Terps assistant coach whose name I don't know]. I'm worried that we won't have a chance with him anymore?" Those posts have been made. Either way, it is unseemly.
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DanMcQ
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Post by DanMcQ on May 9, 2008 13:55:37 GMT -5
I think there should be links tacked to the top of the main forum entitled, 2008, 2009, 2010. clicking that will being you to a list of threads with each players name. This way we could keep all the info in HoyaTalk but keep it nice and organized. Also people could choose to start reading about 17, 16, or 15 yr olds as they choose. If this is the scenario, I vote yes. As I mentioned in the other thread, you can access those threads by looking at the recruit tables - there are links to the threads below each table. Tacking 3-4 recruiting threads to the top of the main forum will crowd out other threads and is probably not necessary as the information is episodic. I would be happy to lock / restart particular year threads if people think they are getting too long.
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CaliHoya
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Post by CaliHoya on May 9, 2008 13:57:25 GMT -5
I like having all the threads in one place. Otherwise, it seems like the main board would be dead in the off-season.
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Hoya06
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Post by Hoya06 on May 9, 2008 14:37:35 GMT -5
I think there should be links tacked to the top of the main forum entitled, 2008, 2009, 2010. clicking that will being you to a list of threads with each players name. This way we could keep all the info in HoyaTalk but keep it nice and organized. Also people could choose to start reading about 17, 16, or 15 yr olds as they choose. If this is the scenario, I vote yes. As I mentioned in the other thread, you can access those threads by looking at the recruit tables - there are links to the threads below each table. Tacking 3-4 recruiting threads to the top of the main forum will crowd out other threads and is probably not necessary as the information is episodic. I would be happy to lock / restart particular year threads if people think they are getting too long. Thanks Dan, I guess the point of my post was that there would be one more "layer" of folders. For example, Click 2008, click Greg Monroe, THEN you get into a thread starting with when id or Balla first starting talking about the guy all the way through signing etc..
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DanMcQ
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Post by DanMcQ on May 9, 2008 14:52:06 GMT -5
Thanks Dan, I guess the point of my post was that there would be one more "layer" of folders. For example, Click 2008, click Greg Monroe, THEN you get into a thread starting with when id or Balla first starting talking about the guy all the way through signing etc.. Not sure if that can be accomplished on this forum software. The Admin knows all when it comes to those sort of bells and whistles. I suppose we could make links off the recruits' names in the tables themselves - the problems are twofold: 1. You are still going to get people who either don't know that's how it works (or don't care) that start new threads every time they post. 2. Who is going to invest the time to do the work to set that up and maintain it? I know I don't have enough time to do much more on top of what I already do there. I can't speak for the other two guys, but we all have significant job commitments that come first and we do this for nothing more than "love of the game."
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Post by HoyaLingus on May 9, 2008 14:57:22 GMT -5
Self-policing of the thread title policy that I suggested earlier in the thread would work fine in a new forum...
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Post by hoyalove4ever on May 9, 2008 15:18:53 GMT -5
No, please not another forum.
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PopeJohn2
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Post by PopeJohn2 on May 9, 2008 15:33:33 GMT -5
same question was posted last year. it got overwhelmingly rejected. hope it gets rejected this year too. but looks like newbies are ruling the asylum now.
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PDRHoya99
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Post by PDRHoya99 on May 9, 2008 16:12:14 GMT -5
same question was posted last year. it got overwhelmingly rejected. hope it gets rejected this year too. but looks like newbies are ruling the asylum now. I agree pope, posters like SFHoya, Gold Hoya, Jack, williambrasky, hoyatables, formerhoya and myself are totally new to the board.
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FormerHoya
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Post by FormerHoya on May 9, 2008 16:13:40 GMT -5
same question was posted last year. it got overwhelmingly rejected. hope it gets rejected this year too. but looks like newbies are ruling the asylum now. I agree pope, posters like Gold Hoya, Jack, williambrasky and myself are totally new to the board. [feeling left out] Sniff! [feeling left out]
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PDRHoya99
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Post by PDRHoya99 on May 9, 2008 16:16:25 GMT -5
[feeling left out] Sniff! [feeling left out] Better?
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FormerHoya
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Post by FormerHoya on May 9, 2008 16:17:47 GMT -5
Much. I post a lot, but contribute very little. I'd like credit for it.
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