Raging
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Post by Raging on Jan 14, 2008 11:46:16 GMT -5
Also, let's not forget that gambling is legal in many places. I have bet legally on the Hoyas (and won!) in Vegas. Just because some people do it illegally is irrelevant.
Should we ban any talk of alcohol because some people can't legally consume it while others can? No talk of Hoya game watches at bars because some readers might be under 21!
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Post by dajuan on Jan 14, 2008 11:49:37 GMT -5
Did someone just imply that the NCAA might get involved because a bunch of fans of a program are discussing the line of a game? Are we taking our role as posters on an INTERNET MESSAGE BOARD that seriously now? Agreed. Let's all take a deep breath. Georgetown University is not in any way liable for discussions that take place on this board. The only way the University could be held accountable is if University employees were posting inside information (or misinformation) on the board. Since that's clearly against the Athletic Department and the University's policies, I think we're in the clear from the NCAA. But Admin's thought police could still track us down. And those guys do NOT mess around.
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casualhoya
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Post by casualhoya on Jan 14, 2008 12:02:46 GMT -5
On behalf of those who love freedom and the American way of life, I will continue to post "The Line" thread before each and every Hoyas game, and look forward to the discussion it generates.
If Admin wants to lock the thread or throw me in a dungeon for insolence, so be it.
At least 'dujuan' will bail me out.
Casually.
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Post by vamosalaplaya on Jan 14, 2008 12:23:06 GMT -5
I think Admin may have made a mistake by framing the issue as a legal/illegal issue. It doesn't have to be. They can ban it because they want to. And they should.
There is a long track record of college athletes being tempted by gamblers into fixing games, and many posters may remember the Boston College game fixing problems of two plus decades ago. And some might even remember City College and how the sport was forever changed - and New York City's college basketball landscape was as well - by gambling.
Casually's posts were not some throwaway mention about the line or other fan's expectations or comparable to ESPN and USA Today giving an overview of betting on a wide variety of games. It seems like a thread meant for the express purpose of monitoring how successful Georgetown is against beating the spread and whether fans should bet on them for a given game.
I will say I did enjoy reading about the line, of course, and I don't gamble. But I get why it doesn't have a place here, this is a pretty much the number one/only open destination for GU basketball discussions and you'd hate to have a game by game reminder of the temptations that are out there for players.
Maybe Casually should write a blog on it instead.
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lichoya68
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OK YOUNGINS ARE HERE AND ARE VERY VERY GOOD cant wait GO HOYAS
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Post by lichoya68 on Jan 14, 2008 12:26:57 GMT -5
well iim glad i dont really understand any of this stuff go hoyas beat pitt by at least one thats all i care about WILL BE A FREAKING WAR keep up the roybemean and foul shots and rebbies and we will DO IT GO HOYAS BEAT PITT TONITE ON NATIONAL TV.. ITS MONEY TIME ITS FEBRUARY ;D ;D ;D ;D
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jgalt
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Post by jgalt on Jan 14, 2008 13:49:56 GMT -5
isnt what vegas is doing the same as what every other sports analyst does? the only difference is that vegas gets paid based on their accuracy (so really they are the best predictors next to nevadahoya, hmmm i see a pattern).
if we cant talk about the prediction from vegas are pomeroy's predictions out too? he predicts the score of the game and i could then take that and bet on that! or i could just read the prediction thread, then pick what seems to be the prevailing scores.
also admin mentioned grumbling about these threads. i dont ever remember reading any grumbling. if you dont like the thread and it doesnt break any rules, then dont read the thread!
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Madgesdiq
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Post by Madgesdiq on Jan 14, 2008 14:03:24 GMT -5
On a tangentially related topic, I picked up a discarded NY Daily News on the subway this morning, and on the "Stats Extra" page (p. 68), the "Statfox Trend of the Day" was that (quote) "Georgetown is 16-5 against the spread against good defensive teams (teams that allow 64 points or less) over the last two seasons."
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Grandpa
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Post by Grandpa on Jan 14, 2008 14:05:30 GMT -5
also admin mentioned grumbling about these threads. i dont ever remember reading any grumbling. if you dont like the thread and it doesnt break any rules, then dont read the thread! I believe the "grumblings" alluded to in the Admin message were grumblings from those that wanted to be able to post messages on the topic and not have the subject be locked, not people that were specifically upset by such messages.
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Post by AustinHoya03 on Jan 14, 2008 14:59:52 GMT -5
Don't know whether Admin has been seeking the advice of counsel, but it's possible that this can be blamed on the Baptists in the Texas Legislature. I refer you to Texas Penal Code §47.05:
§ 47.05. COMMUNICATING GAMBLING INFORMATION.
(a) A person commits an offense if, with the intent to further gambling, he knowingly communicates information as to bets, betting odds, or changes in betting odds or he knowingly provides, installs, or maintains equipment for the transmission or receipt of such information.
(b) It is an exception to the application of Subsection (a) that the information communicated is intended for use in placing a lawful wager under Article 11, Texas Racing Act (Article 179e, Vernon's Texas Civil Statutes), and is not communicated in violation of Section 14.01 of that Act.
(c) An offense under this section is a Class A misdemeanor.
Acts 1973, 63rd Leg., p. 883, ch. 399, § 1, eff. Jan. 1, 1974. Amended by Acts 1993, 73rd Leg., ch. 900, § 1.01, eff. Sept. 1, 1994.
But I should add: I've never seen anyone charged under this statute, despite spending considerable time in Texas' criminal courtrooms (not as a defendant). Also, all the major Texas newspapers print "America's Line" in the back of their sports sections every day.
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Deleted
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2008 16:13:23 GMT -5
Did someone just quote Jim Carrey?
Over/under on HoyaTalk jumping the shark at January 14, 2008, 11:37 AM.
I'm taking the under.
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Post by strummer8526 on Jan 14, 2008 16:34:56 GMT -5
Don't know whether Admin has been seeking the advice of counsel, but it's possible that this can be blamed on the Baptists in the Texas Legislature. I refer you to Texas Penal Code §47.05: § 47.05. COMMUNICATING GAMBLING INFORMATION. (a) A person commits an offense if, with the intent to further gambling, he knowingly communicates information as to bets, betting odds, or changes in betting odds or he knowingly provides, installs, or maintains equipment for the transmission or receipt of such information. (b) It is an exception to the application of Subsection (a) that the information communicated is intended for use in placing a lawful wager under Article 11, Texas Racing Act (Article 179e, Vernon's Texas Civil Statutes), and is not communicated in violation of Section 14.01 of that Act. (c) An offense under this section is a Class A misdemeanor. Acts 1973, 63rd Leg., p. 883, ch. 399, § 1, eff. Jan. 1, 1974. Amended by Acts 1993, 73rd Leg., ch. 900, § 1.01, eff. Sept. 1, 1994. But I should add: I've never seen anyone charged under this statute, despite spending considerable time in Texas' criminal courtrooms (not as a defendant). Also, all the major Texas newspapers print "America's Line" in the back of their sports sections every day. Eh, in the Lone Star state, they're probably busier dealing with sodomy between two men...and allowing "good ol' dog Editedin's, Te-has stlye!" (David Cross)
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Post by dajuan on Jan 14, 2008 16:40:53 GMT -5
But I should add: I've never seen anyone charged under this statute, despite spending considerable time in Texas' criminal courtrooms (not as a defendant). Also, all the major Texas newspapers print "America's Line" in the back of their sports sections every day. That reminded me of this quote from Lionel Hutz: Hutz: ...And as for your case, don't you worry. I've argued in front of every judge in this state -- often as a lawyer.
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prhoya
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Post by prhoya on Jan 15, 2008 8:34:43 GMT -5
Don't know whether Admin has been seeking the advice of counsel, but it's possible that this can be blamed on the Baptists in the Texas Legislature. I refer you to Texas Penal Code §47.05: Huh, huh, you said Penal! ;D ;D
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