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Post by StPetersburgHoya (Inactive) on Aug 14, 2007 15:36:13 GMT -5
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Post by strummer8526 on Aug 14, 2007 15:49:41 GMT -5
This biggest surprise here is that so many people read and write on a Ball State basketball message board. |
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theexorcist
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Post by theexorcist on Aug 14, 2007 16:37:34 GMT -5
With all the evidence out there, everyone on the BSU message boards and here doesn't know what they're talking about. No one knows why Thompson got canned. No one knows who left the racist notes. This is going to get sorted out by lots of lawyers and a gag settlement.
I will say that this doesn't bode well for Ball State's athletic department. Either a) they run an athletic department that until recently was so beholden to their men's basketball coach that they fired the volleyball coach for speaking out, or b) their athletic department is a Machiavellian wet dream, with at least a few racists in it.
Neither option seems particularly positive.
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hoya95
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Post by hoya95 on Aug 14, 2007 16:41:42 GMT -5
There was a discussion on that Ball State board that Jason Whitlock was hosting Jim Rome's show today. Apparently he talked about a 6 hour meeting he had with the Thompsons last week that "did not go well." Did anyone hear the show?
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TigerHoya
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Post by TigerHoya on Aug 14, 2007 17:21:14 GMT -5
The people on the ball state board summarized it if you keep reading the second and third page of the thread.
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Bay99
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Post by Bay99 on Aug 15, 2007 0:24:13 GMT -5
I don't understand why this discussion is on the "Pro & College Sports" board and not the Hoyatalk board.
Ronny Thompson is:
a) a graduate of Georgetown
b) a four-year member of the men's basketball team
c) a former assistant coach of the men's basketball team
d) son of long-time men's basketball head coach John Thompson, Jr.
e) brother of the current men's basketball head coach John Thompson III
This is a Georgetown discussion.
For good measure:
f) Georgetown has a game AT Ball State on its 2007-08 schedule (that Georgetown absolutely cannot afford to buy out.)
This belongs on the Hoyatalk board.
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DFW HOYA
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Post by DFW HOYA on Aug 15, 2007 5:32:50 GMT -5
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Jack
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Post by Jack on Aug 15, 2007 10:29:15 GMT -5
This thing stinks, and I am disappointed that it is linked to Georgetown in any way, but not surprised that Pops would try to intervene on his son's behalf: thebiglead.com/?p=2897 |
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Post by StPetersburgHoya (Inactive) on Aug 15, 2007 11:44:50 GMT -5
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Post by dajuan on Aug 15, 2007 12:49:18 GMT -5
A few notes here:
1) Wow, those local articles offer a pretty stark contrast to Wilbon's piece. I hope we eventually get an "unbiased" account of what actually happened.
2) Bay, what does it matter what board it's on? You have full access to all of the boards, right?
3) St. Pete, that article was posted by DFW early this morning. Also would you really say that Star Press article offers "balance"? The writer disregards many of Ronny's claims because they're 'hard to believe' or 'don't make sense'. Granted, Wilbon should have done more homework on his piece, but this article has an ad hominem tone. The writer is not a fan of Ronny. We get it.
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Aug 15, 2007 13:31:28 GMT -5
"Ebony Strong, president of Ball State's Black Students Association, said her reaction to Thompson's resignation and its aftermath was, "No surprise. . . . I'm not saying people are scared, but you still walk down the street wondering if you're going to get called the N-word.""
Wow that's horrible.
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Post by StPetersburgHoya (Inactive) on Aug 15, 2007 13:51:29 GMT -5
A few notes here: 1) Wow, those local articles offer a pretty stark contrast to 3) St. Pete, that article was posted by DFW early this morning. Also would you really say that Star Press article offers "balance"? The writer disregards many of Ronny's claims because they're 'hard to believe' or 'don't make sense'. Granted, Wilbon should have done more homework on his piece, but this article has an ad hominem tone. The writer is not a fan of Ronny. We get it. Sarcasm. |
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Post by AustinHoya03 on Aug 15, 2007 14:27:20 GMT -5
Agree with theexorcist (I believe for the first time ever) that there is not enough information out there for anyone to point fingers, but that's all anyone involved in this mess seems interested in doing. I would not be surprised to learn that there is some puffery invovled on both sides of the issue. RT's lawyer certainly made a questionable statement in the Indy Star article when he called the slipping of racist notes under Thompson's a "hate crime." The notes alone are not a crime. Last I checked, slipping something under someone's door was not a crime. Sure, there may have been hate involved here, but to throw around loaded terms like that is irresponsible. Personally, I think it's even more irresponsible to claim the notes were planted when those claims are based solely on RT's personality (unlike Elvado, many BSUers are stating this as a fact and not an opinion). But with the irresponsibility on both sides of this issue, I don't expect to ever know the truth, or really anything close to it.
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Post by JohnnyTwoTimes on Aug 16, 2007 13:01:19 GMT -5
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Post by Elvado on Aug 16, 2007 13:39:29 GMT -5
Whitlock is always a refreshing voice. His take on the Vick issue was as honest a discussion as I've heard.
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Post by hoyaboy1 on Aug 16, 2007 15:43:05 GMT -5
I just hope that we don't have any assistant coach openings in the near future.
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Jack
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Post by Jack on Aug 16, 2007 16:01:57 GMT -5
I just hope that we don't have any assistant coach openings in the near future. It is imperative that Ronny have no future connection to GU hoops. Cannot say it strongly enough. |
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Post by TigerHoya on Aug 20, 2007 10:21:03 GMT -5
It's come up on DCRTV now as part of mailbag entries about people complaining about 980's coverage or lack thereof (re: the Whitlock column): www.dcrtv.com/mailbag.html |
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Post by DanMcQ on Aug 20, 2007 13:50:36 GMT -5
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TC
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Post by TC on Aug 23, 2007 13:11:37 GMT -5
Why is the Ronny Thompson thread locked with no explanation? I can't understand how anyone can make the argument that it shouldn't be in the main forum given JT's position, JT3's position, RT's former position at Georgetown, and the fact that we have a game scheduled at Ball State this year. There's threads in the main forum about recruits that we are really only tangentially involved with, and yet there's no problem with those - but a thread about a Thompson gets locked?
I know we don't really have many facts to judge on, but here's how I fall on it. When you charge someone with NCAA violations, they deny them and claim you are guilty of widespread institutional racism, and you come back with a few rental car upgrade receipts - you probably are in the wrong. I don't know any argument where rental car upgrade receipts have ever been a sufficient defense against widespread institutional racism. Ball State would have done well to shut it's mouth and had no comment all along. As frustrating as Georgetown can be, they would never, ever make the kinds of mistakes that Ball State has made here in conduct or in terms of the ridiculously petty media leaks.
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