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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2007 17:32:05 GMT -5
This has become the nerdiest thread in the history of HoyaTalk.
I am shocked that hifigator is prominently involved.
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Post by Nevada Hoya on Nov 12, 2007 18:04:27 GMT -5
So what are peoples best cards??? My '89 Upper Deck Griffey Jr. rookie (although I have his rookie card from each major brand) is up there with my '82 Topps Ripken Jr. rookie. That's a funny card since it is the "Baltimore Orioles Future Stars" card with Ripken Jr., Bob Bonner, and Jeff Schneider. And yes, I had to google that. 1957 Ted Williams autographed by the Splendid Splinter himself. For the life of me I don't know how I got it. And, yes, Buff, I think you should hold onto your collection, as the value of most collections has gone down.
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Post by hoyarooter on Nov 12, 2007 20:51:38 GMT -5
I assume you're moving into a larger abode, correct? With more room for storing junk away?
Keep them. You won't regret it.
One question, though. Do you have a Barbaro card?
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Post by hifigator on Nov 13, 2007 12:05:25 GMT -5
rooter wrote:
I assume you're moving into a larger abode, correct? With more room for storing junk away?
Keep them. You won't regret it.
One question, though. Do you have a Barbaro card?
I'm going out on a limb and say that he took all of his Barbaro cards to the glue factory.
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Post by hifigator on Nov 13, 2007 12:07:03 GMT -5
This has become the nerdiest thread in the history of HoyaTalk. I am shocked that hifigator is prominently involved. Sure, I collected comic books and sports cards as a kid, but you were the one with the pocket protector.
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Post by hoyarooter on Nov 13, 2007 13:22:51 GMT -5
rooter wrote: I assume you're moving into a larger abode, correct? With more room for storing junk away?
Keep them. You won't regret it.
One question, though. Do you have a Barbaro card? I'm going out on a limb and say that he took all of his Barbaro cards to the glue factory. Well this just shows how dumb you are, hifi. Everyone knows you can't make glue from paper.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2007 13:54:19 GMT -5
This has become the nerdiest thread in the history of HoyaTalk. I am shocked that hifigator is prominently involved. Sure, I collected comic books and sports cards as a kid, but you were the one with the pocket protector.
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Post by StPetersburgHoya (Inactive) on Nov 14, 2007 2:03:55 GMT -5
I have autographed cards from Smoltz and Glavine from the early 90s. Those were probably the ones with the most sentimental value attached.
The Ewing autographed card has obvious attachment.
The problem is that with cards like that you're never going to realize the price for them because I don't think I could be brought to part with them.
Obviously autographs raise the value of the cards, but I'd think with modern athletes that sign so much to make additional change in retirement the value of the autographs is only going to decrease - unless they do something crazy like change the market - like stop signing, change their name, or god forbid - die. I'm sure there are incredible prices to be had for Roberto Clemente autographed cards and Lew Alcindor signatures on anything. Another issue I realized when I looked on eBay for autographed sports memorabilia a while back is that there is no guarantee that any autographed card is not a forgery so you are taking a gamble by purchasing one of them second-hand and that has to act as a discount to the price you actually get for an autographed card (unless its built into the price Beckett quotes).
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Post by hifigator on Nov 14, 2007 14:12:04 GMT -5
I have autographed cards from Smoltz and Glavine from the early 90s. Those were probably the ones with the most sentimental value attached. The Ewing autographed card has obvious attachment. The problem is that with cards like that you're never going to realize the price for them because I don't think I could be brought to part with them. Obviously autographs raise the value of the cards, but I'd think with modern athletes that sign so much to make additional change in retirement the value of the autographs is only going to decrease - unless they do something crazy like change the market - like stop signing, change their name, or god forbid - die. I'm sure there are incredible prices to be had for Roberto Clemente autographed cards and Lew Alcindor signatures on anything. Another issue I realized when I looked on eBay for autographed sports memorabilia a while back is that there is no guarantee that any autographed card is not a forgery so you are taking a gamble by purchasing one of them second-hand and that has to act as a discount to the price you actually get for an autographed card (unless its built into the price Beckett quotes). You raise some interesting questions. First of all, an autographed card is NOT "worth" more from a technical standpoint. A cards book value is determined by a number of things such as good old supply and demand. The smaller the production run the better with regard to value. From the demand side it is pretty straight forward: more people want cards of the stars, while less people desire cards of the bit players. Additionally, the first year cards, generally called rookie cards are the most valuable, all other things being equal. But the other key element affecting a card's worth is its grade. An autograph devalues a card in that regard. That being said, there are certainly a lot of autograph collectors out there as well. So it is certainly possible that an autograph could make a card more valuable but the rule of thumb is to have a cheaper card autographed, not an already valuable card. Secondly, with regards to authenticity, you are correct. There is no foolproof way to know with certainty that an autograph is authentic, with a few exceptions. Along with the recent trend of randomly inserting cards featuring pieces of a game worn jersey or glove, many card compaies are inserting personally autographed cards as well. Many of these will come with a stamp of some sort on the back of the card identifying it as an official autographed card rather than just one that someone signed. The point is that the card has its own value based essentially on three factors: supply, demand and grade. The value from an autograph is independent of that and in fact devalues the worth of the card from the card's standpoint. Lastly you are correct with regard to the deceased. Autographs of dead people are intrinsically more valuable for obvious reasons. Again it gets back to supply and demand, but when someone dies the supply is "capped" at however many are out there already.
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Post by Boz on Nov 14, 2007 16:44:12 GMT -5
What about my Garbage Pail Kids? Are they worth anything? I always liked Graffiti Petey. ;D
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Post by hifigator on Nov 15, 2007 15:20:24 GMT -5
What about my Garbage Pail Kids? Are they worth anything? I always liked Graffiti Petey. ;D Believe it or not, I am sure there are people somewhere who collect them. My grandmother just passed away a month ago, but she had this huge doll collection that she was building for my two daughters. In researching EBay and the sort to see what some of them are "worth," I remember seeing listings for Garbage Pail, Cabbage Patch and just about every other sort of toy/doll etc...
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