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Post by strummer8526 on Jul 27, 2007 12:07:50 GMT -5
Anyone else see the movie yet? Thoughts?
I was the biggest fan you could find for a long, long time. Before the DVDs, I had 22 VHS tapes of episodes, most from the "good" era. Admittedly, there's been some decline in quality the last few seasons. I thought the movie had the kind of plot from the more recent questionable seasons, but the laughs to make it as enjoyable and watchable as some of the vintage. The people I was with felt let down (which was the total opposite of my reaction), and that sort of annoyed me, so I'm wondering what others thought.
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Post by EasyEd on Jul 27, 2007 12:12:02 GMT -5
This subject is of earth-shaking importance.
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Post by TBird41 on Jul 27, 2007 12:13:38 GMT -5
This subject is of earth-shaking importance. Damn straight. ;D
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Post by strummer8526 on Jul 27, 2007 16:21:57 GMT -5
Please don't make me point out how many posts on this board are FAR from "earth-shaking importance."
We've got a happy birthday message and a big building in Dubai all within the last week. Oh, and don't forget the fines being levied against a guy whose car runs on celery.
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Post by theexorcist on Jul 27, 2007 21:44:33 GMT -5
I had about twenty tapes, PLUS I annoyed every single friend I had at Georgetown with my incessant Simpsons quoting, PLUS I wrote about six or seven College Bowl-esque question packets specific to Simpsons trivia, PLUS I watched the movie this morning at 12:01.
A friend noted that the plot was self-contained - there was a reference to President Schw...., not President McBain, the spiritual journey didn't reference the Guatemalan Insanity Peppers, etc. Basically, if you had never seen this movie, you would have gotten every joke with the potential exception of Dr. Nick's last words. This isn't necessarily bad, but it's notable.
Also, the movie drug on while they were in Alaska (really unforgivable - quite a few minutes went by when no one in the theater laughed at all - the mystic was remarkably unfunny) and the Bart hating Homer has been done numerous times before and felt recycled from other, better episodes (Bart has also lived with the Flanders and knows it's not all hot chocolate and pats on the head).
But the first half was high comedy as it has rarely been seen before or since. For that, I give the movie a 6.5 out of ten, or three stars.
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Jul 27, 2007 22:46:20 GMT -5
I saw it today and it was hilarious. i mean there are funnier movies, but i was very satisfied. but i'm very easily satisfied. definetly go see it.
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Post by Boz on Jul 30, 2007 8:54:53 GMT -5
If you were expecting the Simpsons to be a "fanboy" movie, you were kidding yourself all along.
There were a few, clearly understated, inside jokes scattered throughout, but this was always going to be a movie to try to appeal to everyone, not to Simpsons geeks like many of us. Judging by the box office, and the laughter I heard in the theater, they succeeded.
I do agree with the two key points though. The Alaska stretch seemed like, well, a stretch. And I kept waiting for Bart to remember or realize that living with Ned would mean lots of plain white bread with a glass of water on the side for dippin', but it never happened.
Other than that, I laughed pretty much throughout. But with all of the helicopters that this movie featured, and all of the Kent Brockman scenes, it would have killed them to throw in a line or two for Arnie Pye in the Sky? Sheesh.
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Post by hifigator on Jul 30, 2007 10:52:37 GMT -5
Please don't make me point out how many posts on this board are FAR from "earth-shaking importance." We've got a happy birthday message and a big building in Dubai all within the last week. Oh, and don't forget the fines being levied against a guy whose car runs on celery. The irony of your stupidity is boundless. If you think about the the issue of global warming theoretically is of earth-shaking importance. The very point I raise in questioning the fines is that it would seem like those who think global warming is such an emminent danger would be willing to concede to this proactive individual. The very fact that they want their grubby little paws on any and all monies lends credence to my very point. With regards to The Simpsons, I am not a huge fan but I enjoy the show when I happen to catch it. I do think you have to give the creators a bunch of credit since it has been a success over such a long period of time. On the other hand I think it earns a bucket of demerits because it helped spawn such worthless trash as South Park and Family Guy. Oh, let me hear it you fans of bathroom humor ...
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Post by Boz on Jul 30, 2007 11:34:53 GMT -5
If you think South Park is bathroom humor, then you are beyond salvation. You just don't get it, and you never will. I won't even try to persuade you that you are wrong.
This is not personal to you, hifi. I have said the same to many, many people who've missed the point completely.
South Park USES bathroom humor, no question, but that is not at all what the show is about. Parker and Stone are geniuses.
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Post by hifigator on Jul 30, 2007 12:07:51 GMT -5
Maybe I am too old Boz, but I can't stand South Park. Everytime I try to give it another chance, it takes about 5 minutes before I say enough is enough. I thought Porky's was pretty funny when I was a kid. But Porky's 2 failed miserably. Now as I look back at the original Porky's I realize that it wasn't nearly as good as I thought it was when I was an immature teenager. Maybe Porky's 2 wasn't quite as bad as I remember. Maybe part of the difference was my growing up a bit.
In any case, as an adult, trying to watch and enjoy South Park is impossible. I guess if you take some of those funny mushrooms or the sort you might like it. Other than that it is just so gross and lacking in real humor.
I'm guessing you were a big Beevis and Butthead fan as well?
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Post by FormerHoya on Jul 30, 2007 14:04:00 GMT -5
Not every episode of South Park can or should be defended as genius; however, watch the South Park Movie, and try telling me that it isn't brilliant.
For that matter, watch the Scientology or "Scott Tenorman Must Die" episodes and try not laughing out loud.
Edit: I just realized that I have a Family Guy avatar. That isn't because of my affinity for the show (I love some, find others boring), it is because of my [unfortunate] resemblance to that character.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Jul 30, 2007 14:36:43 GMT -5
I stopped watching South Park regularly pretty early in the run -- a combination of the day of week/time and Mr. Hanky. That's simply the lowest of the low comedy.
That said, much of the time, South Park is smart, practical, satiric comedy which lampoons some of the ridiculous opinions and actions of our society (e.g. the episode where the parents of South Park found out that most abductions of children are actually done by parents/adults the child knows, so they send the children into the wildnerness to save them from their own parents).
Yes, there's way too much gay humor, way too much potty humor. But it is a lot smarter than 99% of television or talk radio, which you (hifi) listen to all day.
As for Family Guy, good random humor, but it already is much less funny than the first season or so. The plots were never that funny, it was always the random asides (Kool-aid man, Evil Monkey, etc.) and now that those seem less and less frequent, it's a lot of Homer-copying. Frankly, unlike the Simpsons, where Homer should be the center, Peter's the least interesting member of the family. Probably because he's Homer.
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Post by Cambridge on Jul 31, 2007 9:06:32 GMT -5
If you think South Park is bathroom humor, then you are beyond salvation. You just don't get it, and you never will. I won't even try to persuade you that you are wrong. This is not personal to you, hifi. I have said the same to many, many people who've missed the point completely. South Park USES bathroom humor, no question, but that is not at all what the show is about. Parker and Stone are geniuses. Amen. South Park passed The Simpsons long ago when it comes to meaningful satire. Parker and Stone absolutely eviscerate everyone on all sides at any time. I can't even watch The Family Guy anymore after they tore that show a new one in back to back episodes. They literally killed another show for me.
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Post by Boz on Jul 31, 2007 11:12:14 GMT -5
Well, I don't know. The hour-long season 5 premiere of Family Guy - Star Wars looks like it could be pretty good. www.milkandcookies.com/link/62681/detail/Then again, Robot Chicken Star Wars was kind of on and off. (kind of a shocker that I'm single, dont'cha think?)
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Post by DrumsGoBang on Jul 31, 2007 11:22:58 GMT -5
(kind of a shocker that I'm single, dont'cha think?) Here is a good Simpsons quote for Boz: "Inspired by the most logical race in the galaxy, the Vulcans, breeding will be permitted once every seven years. For many of you this will mean much less breeding, for me, much much more."
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Post by Coast2CoastHoya on Jul 31, 2007 12:23:58 GMT -5
I saw The Simpsons Movie last night and really, really enjoyed it. It was hilarious! I was trying to search for the deeper meanings going on (something South Park has made me do), but I gave it up because I was laughing so much!
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Post by Boz on Jul 31, 2007 13:21:32 GMT -5
Here is a good Simpsons quote for Boz: "Inspired by the most logical race in the galaxy, the Vulcans, breeding will be permitted once every seven years. For many of you this will mean much less breeding, for me, much much more." Ahh, what wouldn't I give to live in a town that had thirteen stores that begin with "Le Sex. . ."
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Post by hifigator on Jul 31, 2007 13:51:05 GMT -5
I guess I might have to rethink my opinion a bit. Personally I just don't enjoy vulgarity at virtually any level. I have always been a prankster to a degree, but I never found any humor in the pranks that cause harm/damage/expense to others. Don't get me wrong, as I am not in any way taking the high road here, I just personally have never really enjoyed certain types of humor. With regard to South Park, I think I dislike the surface material so much that I can't endure the deeper issues. In fairness, you all are not the first to tout the depth of meaning in south park, and I haven't seen enough episodes to judge the entire work. Still, I think that if the "big picture" so to speak, is really the brilliance of the work, then it shouldn't be buried beneath heaps of pre-adolescent "humor."
SF wrote:
But it is a lot smarter than 99% of television or talk radio, which you (hifi) listen to all day.
As far as television, I watch very little so I am not one to rate the comparison of South Park to other shows. As far as comedy goes, I like Cheers and Seinfeld. I know those aren't "new" shows, but at least in my opinion, they were pretty brilliant and well done.
As for talk radio, I agree that there are quite a few hosts who are not exactly Ivy league material. That really doesn't matter from the standpoint of entertainment. I listen to talk radio primarily in my car as I go from point a to point b. I ask more of my "free" time once I get home. I would rather watch most real sports than the vast majority of most "regular" tv shows.
In any case, I still question why you guys are all so dead set against sports talk radio. You don't have to agree with what is said, just understand the subject matter and then enjoy the discussion. Personally I think I would be an excellent host. I think quickly on my feet. I am fairly well spoken. I generally pay attention. I have a fairly broad knowledge in a variety of sports and I have a strong ability to learn fast for those which I am unfamiliar. And hopefully if the opportunity arises, I could entertain others and captivate their attention effectively enough. But if and when that day comes, I hope I don't have as rough of a crowd as you guys.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Aug 1, 2007 12:17:48 GMT -5
I find the level of discourse on talk radio vapid, sensationalistic, and devoid of any real value. I'm well aware that part of the reason for this is that that is what many of the listeners want/that is the level upon which many of them enjoy sports. Let's just say that despite a voracious appetite for sports, sports radio doesn't appeal at all.
I hope that's clear.
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Post by Filo on Aug 1, 2007 13:52:03 GMT -5
I Personally I think I would be an excellent host. I think quickly on my feet. I am fairly well spoken. I generally pay attention. I have a fairly broad knowledge in a variety of sports and I have a strong ability to learn fast for those which I am unfamiliar. And hopefully if the opportunity arises, I could entertain others and captivate their attention effectively enough. But if and when that day comes, I hope I don't have as rough of a crowd as you guys. On top of all that, you're a prankster too? Wow, Hifi for President.
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