HealyHoya
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Post by HealyHoya on Feb 25, 2007 14:30:08 GMT -5
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vcjack
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Post by vcjack on Feb 25, 2007 15:20:45 GMT -5
The article lost credibility with this line: based on the New Testament writings, "Jesus likely lived during the first century A.D." I have heard of a similar, and better argued, theory about the discovery of a "James son of Joseph brother of Jesus" inscription found on a box, but even that is not conclusive because all of those were popular names of the time.
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Bando
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Post by Bando on Feb 25, 2007 21:45:34 GMT -5
The greatest archeological find perhaps in the history of humanity is being brought to us by...James Cameron? Yeah, I'll stay skeptical for now.
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RusskyHoya
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Post by RusskyHoya on Feb 26, 2007 3:03:11 GMT -5
The article lost credibility with this line: based on the New Testament writings, "Jesus likely lived during the first century A.D." I have heard of a similar, and better argued, theory about the discovery of a "James son of Joseph brother of Jesus" inscription found on a box, but even that is not conclusive because all of those were popular names of the time. I'm not totally clear on this one...It's pretty well established biblically that Jesus had a brother named James. There seems little reason to question this point or to have to turn to archaeology for backup.
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DFW HOYA
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Post by DFW HOYA on Feb 26, 2007 14:19:40 GMT -5
I'm not totally clear on this one...It's pretty well established biblically that Jesus had a brother named James. There seems little reason to question this point or to have to turn to archaeology for backup. Even the term "brother" had a lot of distortion in writings of those days (the two brothers was cited in one Gospel, not in others), so there's probably a fair amount of history lost in translation. The name Jeshua (Joshua) was certainly not unique in that era, so it's a leap of faith (or lack thereof) to hang one's reputation on the kind of hoaxes that have been around for centuries. The ossuary (box) cited above was also claimed as a forgery by Israeli officials, who saw the etchings as being of a different date than the stone by more than a few centuries.
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RusskyHoya
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Post by RusskyHoya on Feb 26, 2007 15:42:05 GMT -5
I'm not totally clear on this one...It's pretty well established biblically that Jesus had a brother named James. There seems little reason to question this point or to have to turn to archaeology for backup. Even the term "brother" had a lot of distortion in writings of those days (the two brothers was cited in one Gospel, not in others), so there's probably a fair amount of history lost in translation. The name Jeshua (Joshua) was certainly not unique in that era, so it's a leap of faith (or lack thereof) to hang one's reputation on the kind of hoaxes that have been around for centuries. The ossuary (box) cited above was also claimed as a forgery by Israeli officials, who saw the etchings as being of a different date than the stone by more than a few centuries. Agreed with all of that, and I would be hesitant to turn to archaeology in general to try to prove such specifics when dealing with a time difference of two millenia. My point was merely that James the brother of Jesus, who Paul writes about as being one of the leaders of the early Jerusalem church and something of a rival, is generally accepted as having existed and playing some notable role.
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TC
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Post by TC on Feb 26, 2007 22:53:17 GMT -5
The greatest archeological find perhaps in the history of humanity is being brought to us by...James Cameron? Yeah, I'll stay skeptical for now. You doubt the guy who brought Aquaman to the big screen?
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