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Post by AustinHoya03 on Jan 22, 2007 18:20:05 GMT -5
Stop purpling up our red states. www.economist.com/world/na/displaystory.cfm?story_id=8570280The above is a joke, but I have met a LOT of California transplants to the Austin area over the past few years. Mostly people who complained of ridiculous property taxes in the Golden State. Some Austinites also blame the city-wide smoking ban, which passed by a slim margin, on non-Texan transplants (Californians and, even worse, "Yankees"). I'll also point out that around the time I graduated, California overtook New Jersey for title of Most Represented State at Georgetown. What's the deal, Californians? Is it the smog, the overpopulation, or the cost of living that's making you leave? |
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Post by EasyEd on Jan 22, 2007 19:11:16 GMT -5
Though it's politically incorrect to say so, maybe it's the size of the immigrant population.
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Post by DFW HOYA on Jan 22, 2007 19:27:27 GMT -5
Austin folks don't like anyone moving there. Especially people from Dallas.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Jan 22, 2007 20:15:32 GMT -5
Though it's politically incorrect to say so, maybe it's the size of the immigrant population. Good lord, no. It's called cost of living, Ed. I bought a condo in Oakland. Want to know what I can get in Austin? About 3x the square footage, Lake View, double the number of beds and baths, etc. And its a real house. Honestly, if you live in California, you really have to evaluate how much you use the "California" you're paying for. If you have kids, etc., don't do a whole lot of outdoorsy stuff, and if you don't like city life much, well, you should leave. I've thought about it. Austin gets a huge influx, I'd expect, because it has a lot of attributes that Californians like but without the ridiculous prices. |
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Post by jerseyhoya34 on Jan 22, 2007 20:35:32 GMT -5
Though it's politically incorrect to say so, maybe it's the size of the immigrant population. Ed, are you, by chance, a Native American? |
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Post by SoCalHoya on Jan 22, 2007 20:35:34 GMT -5
If it was immigration, then the transplants would be moving to Wisconsin/Vermont or some facsimile thereof. Texas is almost as beautiful a melting pot as California.
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Post by AustinHoya03 on Jan 22, 2007 23:44:45 GMT -5
Austin folks don't like anyone moving there. Especially people from Dallas. No kidding, y'all are almost as bad as Houstonians! Of course, I could understand how any Dallasite interested in art/music would want to leave Dallas for Austin. Deep Ellum is close to bottoming out. |
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Post by AustinHoya03 on Jan 23, 2007 0:08:57 GMT -5
Austin gets a huge influx, I'd expect, because it has a lot of attributes that Californians like but without the ridiculous prices. I think I'd agree with that. Austin is an extremly liveable city, and (for now) you can live in a gigantic house, on Lake Austin, 15 minutes from downtown, with no freeway commute, for about the cost of two ranch homes in Orange County. My abode is much more modest, but probably cost a fraction of a condo in the East Bay. Ed, according to the linked article a lot of the people leaving California are immigrants themselves. Besides, white flight in this day and age would prove counterproductive: minority Hispanic populations (or majority Hispanic populations, depending on which state you're talking about) are rising rapidly all across the Southwest USA. |
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Post by Coast2CoastHoya on Jan 23, 2007 10:55:54 GMT -5
Interesting article, AustinHoya. I love how every state in the west is saying "there are too many Californians moving here!" It's the same story in Washington, Oregon, and New Mexico. Arizona and Nevada are used to it now. With more than 13% of the US population within about 5% of total US land area (including Alaska), high housing prices, and increasing education and infrastructure issues, it's no wonder CA people are traveling like they are. I've heard Austin is pretty awesome -- never been myself, but would definitely go (not during football season though; I'm a USC fan  ). Gotta love a good music and sports scene. To address the immigration point (or at least stir it up), it's like my buddy Julio used to say: "we didn't jump the border. The border jumped us." |
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Post by HealyHoya on Jan 23, 2007 14:55:52 GMT -5
Though it's politically incorrect to say so, maybe it's the size of the immigrant population. Ed, are you, by chance, a Native American? In a related story, many Chicagoans tired of the cold weather are moving to Maine. |
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Post by EasyEd on Jan 23, 2007 16:25:29 GMT -5
"Ed, are you, by chance, a Native American? "
Yes, I am a native of the United States of America.
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Post by Cambridge on Jan 23, 2007 19:10:03 GMT -5
I lived in Austin last summer. Perhaps the best place in America.
Affordable, spacious housing. Unique neighborhoods full of character. Almost has a small town feel, but with the interests and culture of a much larger city. There is always something to do, whether its hit the various local bars (and there is a wide range), see a show (live music capital of the world), hit the hundreds of incredible restaurants (TX love their food), catch a football game (unparalleled sporting experience), jump in Barton Creek or any of the other natural cold spring city pools, boat on Lake Travis, hike in the hill country...pretty much its a paradise...oh, and the women are gorgeous and beers cost about a $1.50.
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Post by CAHoya07 on Jan 24, 2007 16:37:19 GMT -5
California is the greatest state in the nation. It also costs a ridiculous amount to live there, so sometimes we move. I don't see this as a problem.
Immigration is what makes America great, and that includes within our borders, so get over it. How do you think we Californians feel when people flock to our state from all over the country (and the world), take our jobs, clog our highways, drive house prices up, and root for their home (read: non-Californian) teams at our sporting events?
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Post by SoCalHoya on Jan 24, 2007 17:50:42 GMT -5
Cali may be expensive, but it's "reassuringly expensive."
Like other native Californians, you take your Californianess wherever you go. And, like nobility/royalty, you can pass it down to your children, even if they were born elsewhere.
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Post by Coast2CoastHoya on Jan 26, 2007 11:54:11 GMT -5
Echo, CA and SoCal. I would also add "mess up our beaches." It's funny how Cali Pride changes depending on where you are ... here in DC, all of us Cali kids get along. In Cali, it's the NorCal-SoCal divide. In Orange County, there's the "909-ball" arguments.
Very true about taking your Cali'ness with you. Fly that Bear Republic flag proudly! I know I do...
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). Gotta love a good music and sports scene.
