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Post by RockawayHoya on Aug 23, 2007 16:08:42 GMT -5
Just to piggyback the already outstanding advice on extracurriculars, here's another point. Colleges want students who will have the ability to contribute to their school in more ways than just academically. That will require you to demonstrate that you have the physical reserves as well as the maturity to not only succeed grades and test-scores-wise by studying 24/7/365, but to attain a high GPA and test scores WHILE doing worthwhile activities that you're passionate about and take up a significant portion of your time. If you're able to do this at the HS level, you'll have a better chance of doing the same as an undergrad. Most top-tier colleges have their pick of the litter when it comes to selecting students who have great grades and SAT scores. Many times, what separates those who are ultimately accepted and those who are denied admission is what you can bring to the table other than in the classroom. And, as several others have already stated, quality over quantity in terms of extracurriculars.
Best of luck in getting to the Hilltop. If you need more specific help, feel free to IM me.
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joey0403p
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Post by joey0403p on Aug 31, 2007 16:05:56 GMT -5
Tell them you promise never ever to play beirut, beer pong or any other risky behavior.
Beyond that, follow the above advice - don't discount the interview everything the above has mentioned helps.
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Post by ][-][ 0 `/ /-\ 5 on Sept 26, 2007 17:01:59 GMT -5
Thanks again everyone for the advice, I'm putting it to good use...
Is it easier to get into the college or MSB? I'm not quite sure what I want to major in yet, but I'm mostly leaning towards a business/economic route and less likely, psychology. No matter which I apply to, I'll find something. The question is which gives me a better shot.
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vcjack
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Post by vcjack on Sept 26, 2007 17:25:33 GMT -5
Thanks again everyone for the advice, I'm putting it to good use... Is it easier to get into the college or MSB? I'm not quite sure what I want to major in yet, but I'm mostly leaning towards a business/economic route and less likely, psychology. No matter which I apply to, I'll find something. The question is which gives me a better shot. Stay away from this kind of thinking. There probably is a difference between the two schools but its so miniscule it ultimately won't make the difference, stick to the one that fits you best not because of trying to get an "easier" route. School will be a lot more enjoyable for you if you're in the program that you want to be in (and I'd immagine admissions is pretty adept at seeing whether a prospective really wants to be in a school or whether he/she is trying to play the system) That said if buisness/economics is your thing then go MSB. Trying to go through a econ path in the college is like pulling teeth
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Post by hoya4ever on Sept 26, 2007 18:39:52 GMT -5
On the other hand if you want to take any class you want go College. You could do that in the MSB as well but it won't be as much as your life as AFM and POI (advanced financial management and principles of investment -- killers both of them)
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Post by Nevada Hoya on Sept 26, 2007 19:29:17 GMT -5
I think traditionally the hardest (as far as applications and acceptances) school to get in is the college. The easiest (by far) the nursing school. I always wondered whether anyone played the system by applying to the nursing school and then transferring to the college after.
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Post by hoopsmccan on Sept 26, 2007 19:34:17 GMT -5
I had a buddy from high school that did this at B.C. Turns out you need a certain GPA to transfer...he ended up having to take summer school classes to pump up his GPA. Not the brightest cat, though I guess that was understood when I mentioned B.C.
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Post by theexorcist on Sept 26, 2007 19:38:52 GMT -5
Part of the application process involves determining one's interest, what they can contribute, etc. Someone who's trying to game the system, especially for the nursing school, would get found out in a second.
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Post by hoopsmccan on Sept 26, 2007 19:53:13 GMT -5
Yup, the three page application is a window to an applicant's soul. If you are the type to try to game the system, then you are the type that can fake an interest in something. Fill out the app, write an essay about being easy to pick up at bars and not need financial aid = a pretty good shot at the nursing school.
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Post by JimmyHoya on Sept 27, 2007 1:04:15 GMT -5
The hardest to get into is the SFS, with the College being not too far behind.
The easiest is the MSB, because it's a lot easier to fake a business interest than it is to apply as a potential med student.
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Post by hoya4ever on Sept 27, 2007 10:41:19 GMT -5
Guys, it is not that easy to get into the NHS. Their admission rates are higher but they, like the SFS kinda, come from a different pool of applicants. The NHSers are the dorks in high school. As for getting in through the NHS it can be done but transfer to anywhere else but the college is difficult. You would have to stay in NHS for a whole year (and for those of you that know what I'm talking about, this means a whole year of Dr. Angerio, smelly cadavers, and a GPA that has fallen so hard it has a concussion).
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Post by Jack on Sept 27, 2007 11:33:44 GMT -5
Argh- I just wrote out a long post and lost it. Anyway, sorry for not replying earlier, I have been out of the country for 5 weeks, and I left admissions in May, but I still have a few thoughts:
-The post suggesting that you avoid talking about Georgetown as a pre-professional stepping stone is one of the best pieces of advice in the whole thread. The professors and deans on the committee hate it, even though the college essay asks how Georgetown will aid in your future goals. The undergraduate experience has a value in and of itself, and they are looking for people who seem to understand and appreciate that.
-The interview can help, but only if it is there in time to be read. Make sure you send in your Part I asap. You never know how you will connect with your interviewer, and you shouldn't worry if you don't feel a strong connection, but the earlier you do it, the more chance it has to make a difference for you. Showing enthusiasm for the university is great, but the committee tries not to pay much attention to your desire to attend. Even so, it cannot help but make a favorable impression on an alum if you are really burning to go to GU.
-The committee also does look for people to make thoughtful choices in which program they have applied to, but that doesn't mean they can catch everyone who tries to game the system. Look closely at MSB's curriculum vs. the courses you would take in the College. Try to make your decision based on that rather than which one is easier to get into or which one is best for your career. You will be happier. If it is truly a toss-up, remember that is probably easier on you to transfer into the College than into MSB (or SFS or NHS), because of the courses you will have missed that must be made up.
-Your profile looks good, but certainly not a sure thing. Make sure you don't put all your eggs in one basket, don't be too disappointed if deferred, and best of luck. Ask any other questions you want, I will try to help out from here.
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Post by doublehoya on Oct 8, 2007 23:07:23 GMT -5
This sounds horribly cynical, but because all other bases have been covered, here goes -- find a notable alum to be your "Angel" -- they are out there, and maybe you know one. If you do (and living where you do, and your legacy status, etc., chances are you might), find a Hoya alum with considerable pull to write a letter or make a phone call for you. That will get things done for the "close call" applicant.
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