BigMike
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Post by BigMike on Dec 10, 2007 9:31:04 GMT -5
Why people continue to knock other people who volunteer there time to Georgetown Basketball is beyond me. The cheerleaders are at every game . . . whether its Jacksonville or Syracuse and I imagine there is a lot of practice time involved so why would you try to rip these people on a message board.
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Dhall
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Post by Dhall on Dec 10, 2007 10:36:15 GMT -5
Why people continue to knock other people who volunteer there time to Georgetown Basketball is beyond me. The cheerleaders are at every game . . . whether its Jacksonville or Syracuse and I imagine there is a lot of practice time involved so why would you try to rip these people on a message board. I agree and I can't believe the Admins allow this on here. It should be deleted before he sees it hopefully. Posts regarding a foot injury to a player are removed yet people are allowed to call a cheerleader a edited?
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Post by strummer8526 on Dec 10, 2007 10:50:09 GMT -5
Why people continue to knock other people who volunteer there time to Georgetown Basketball is beyond me. The cheerleaders are at every game . . . whether its Jacksonville or Syracuse and I imagine there is a lot of practice time involved so why would you try to rip these people on a message board. I agree and I can't believe the Admins allow this on here. It should be deleted before he sees it hopefully. Posts regarding a foot injury to a player are removed yet people are allowed to call a cheerleader a edited? Yeah, crazy world, isn't it? There's a difference between excitement and lacking humility. It's a basketball game, not a forum for one of the three male cheerleaders to attempt looking awesome in front of the student body. He may be a nice guy, and very pumped up for the games, and that's all fine. So are all the cheerleaders and many of the fans. I'm all for his starting cheers and doing the cheerleader thing (like the other guys do). But all the extra "look at me while I do push-ups, stretch my quads, and pseudo-dance in front of the whole student section" could cease. I don't like it when people find something that's popular and then try to become a part of it so that they can put themselves in a position to have people pay attention to them.
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Dhall
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Post by Dhall on Dec 10, 2007 10:54:25 GMT -5
I agree and I can't believe the Admins allow this on here. It should be deleted before he sees it hopefully. Posts regarding a foot injury to a player are removed yet people are allowed to call a cheerleader a edited? Yeah, crazy world, isn't it? There's a difference between excitement and lacking humility. It's a basketball game, not a forum for one of the three male cheerleaders to attempt looking awesome in front of the student body. He may be a nice guy, and very pumped up for the games, and that's all fine. So are all the cheerleaders and many of the fans. I'm all for his starting cheers and doing the cheerleader thing (like the other guys do). But all the extra "look at me while I do push-ups, stretch my quads, and pseudo-dance in front of the whole student section" could cease. I don't like it when people find something that's popular and then try to become a part of it so that they can put themselves in a position to have people pay attention to them. I'd say you should tell him how you feel at the next game rather than posting here since it doesn't really have much to do with the basketball itself and it's kind of a personal attack, but if the Admins think it's appropriate so be it. Personally, I was glad when male cheerleaders came back because the females can't toss the t-shirts past the 5 th row up from the floor!
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ScreamingHoya
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Post by ScreamingHoya on Dec 10, 2007 11:08:52 GMT -5
Ok, the kid is 20 years old and he can stand to be taken down a peg or two, so everybody cool out. It's not the fact that he's cheering and getting pumped up that bothers me; it's that he's making himself a show and he knows it. The push-ups, the stretching, the high-fiving randos in the crowd and getting in their grills. None of the other cheerleaders do this, and are there to support the team. I'm sure he is too, but the image this kid projects just annoys the hell out of me
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theexorcist
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Post by theexorcist on Dec 10, 2007 11:22:40 GMT -5
I agree and I can't believe the Admins allow this on here. It should be deleted before he sees it hopefully. Posts regarding a foot injury to a player are removed yet people are allowed to call a cheerleader a edited? Yeah, crazy world, isn't it? There's a difference between excitement and lacking humility. It's a basketball game, not a forum for one of the three male cheerleaders to attempt looking awesome in front of the student body. He may be a nice guy, and very pumped up for the games, and that's all fine. So are all the cheerleaders and many of the fans. I'm all for his starting cheers and doing the cheerleader thing (like the other guys do). But all the extra "look at me while I do push-ups, stretch my quads, and pseudo-dance in front of the whole student section" could cease. I don't like it when people find something that's popular and then try to become a part of it so that they can put themselves in a position to have people pay attention to them. Wow. Just wow. Cheerleaders don't really have a choice when they're attending the games - they make all of the home ones. When they travel, they don't travel in the same comfort that the team member does. They're busy for the entire game. They can't yell out anything negative to our team members or to the oppposing team - ever. They're tasked with jazzing up a fan base all the time, even when someone just made a run and is up by five with two minutes to go and you want to head to the exits. Smile for two straight hours and see how much you like it. "Lacking humility"? Really. Wow. So he doesn't appeal to your standards. Should he cheer less? Appear less exuberant and more humble? Maybe he should do four flexes or less a game - five is the line, and you really don't want to push the line, do you? Engaging in self-flagellation is probably a little over the line, unless he does something really excessive - dancing for twenty seconds straight is probably worth a lash or two. And you know who's really bad about this? The new guy cheerleaders, and all of the freshmen fans who weren't actively following the team when Escherick was coaching. They're all posers who are just choosing something that's popular. Yes, there are cheerleaders and band members and dance team members who are all full of themselves, at this school and at every school from the dawn of time. Either tell it to their face or talk subtly mock them behind their back with your friends. But you're a total Edited if you want him to conform to your dinky little standards and complain on an anonymous message board when he doesn't.
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GUHoya07
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Post by GUHoya07 on Dec 10, 2007 11:30:14 GMT -5
Wow. Just wow. Cheerleaders don't really have a choice when they're attending the games - they make all of the home ones. When they travel, they don't travel in the same comfort that the team member does. They're busy for the entire game. They can't yell out anything negative to our team members or to the oppposing team - ever. They're tasked with jazzing up a fan base all the time, even when someone just made a run and is up by five with two minutes to go and you want to head to the exits. Smile for two straight hours and see how much you like it. "Lacking humility"? Really. Wow. So he doesn't appeal to your standards. Should he cheer less? Appear less exuberant and more humble? Maybe he should do four flexes or less a game - five is the line, and you really don't want to push the line, do you? Engaging in self-flagellation is probably a little over the line, unless he does something really excessive - dancing for twenty seconds straight is probably worth a lash or two. And you know who's really bad about this? The new guy cheerleaders, and all of the freshmen fans who weren't actively following the team when Escherick was coaching. They're all posers who are just choosing something that's popular. Yes, there are cheerleaders and band members and dance team members who are all full of themselves, at this school and at every school from the dawn of time. Either tell it to their face or talk subtly mock them behind their back with your friends. But you're a total Edited if you want him to conform to your dinky little standards and complain on an anonymous message board when he doesn't. Great post. I just don't understand the bashing of people who volunteer so much time to help improve the program. As theexorcist said, If you don't like them talk about it with your friends, but why attack them on this board?
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hoyatables
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Post by hoyatables on Dec 10, 2007 11:39:20 GMT -5
Wow. Just wow. Cheerleaders don't really have a choice when they're attending the games - they make all of the home ones. When they travel, they don't travel in the same comfort that the team member does. They're busy for the entire game. They can't yell out anything negative to our team members or to the oppposing team - ever. They're tasked with jazzing up a fan base all the time, even when someone just made a run and is up by five with two minutes to go and you want to head to the exits. Smile for two straight hours and see how much you like it. "Lacking humility"? Really. Wow. So he doesn't appeal to your standards. Should he cheer less? Appear less exuberant and more humble? Maybe he should do four flexes or less a game - five is the line, and you really don't want to push the line, do you? Engaging in self-flagellation is probably a little over the line, unless he does something really excessive - dancing for twenty seconds straight is probably worth a lash or two. And you know who's really bad about this? The new guy cheerleaders, and all of the freshmen fans who weren't actively following the team when Escherick was coaching. They're all posers who are just choosing something that's popular. Yes, there are cheerleaders and band members and dance team members who are all full of themselves, at this school and at every school from the dawn of time. Either tell it to their face or talk subtly mock them behind their back with your friends. But you're a total Edited if you want him to conform to your dinky little standards and complain on an anonymous message board when he doesn't. Great post. I just don't understand the bashing of people who volunteer so much time to help improve the program. As theexorcist said, If you don't like them talk about it with your friends, but why attack them on this board? Agree with both of you. Well said. Oh, and FLHoya -- wonderful recap, as always. Missed the game so it was great to get a detailed accounting!
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Post by ColumbiaHeightsHoya on Dec 10, 2007 11:45:06 GMT -5
Verns free throws turn sideways. If you watch his left hand, his thumb ends up out towards the basket. This could easily be corrected and is typically something you learn in camp in 7th or 8th grade. He basically has a two handed free throw right now and is missing left & right, primarily left, which should never happen. We won't be able to have him in games late so I hope he gets this fixed.
It was nice to see guys get minutes who normally don't and I think Jon/Roy/Jessie will get their normal minutes by Memphis.
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Post by WilsonBlvdHoya on Dec 10, 2007 11:51:18 GMT -5
Guys, lay off the cheerleader(s) or this gets locked down! And I've NEVER locked down an FLHoya RECAP before!
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Dec 10, 2007 11:52:52 GMT -5
I agree and I can't believe the Admins allow this on here. It should be deleted before he sees it hopefully. Posts regarding a foot injury to a player are removed yet people are allowed to call a cheerleader a edited? Yeah, crazy world, isn't it? There's a difference between excitement and lacking humility. It's a basketball game, not a forum for one of the three male cheerleaders to attempt looking awesome in front of the student body. He may be a nice guy, and very pumped up for the games, and that's all fine. So are all the cheerleaders and many of the fans. I'm all for his starting cheers and doing the cheerleader thing (like the other guys do). But all the extra "look at me while I do push-ups, stretch my quads, and pseudo-dance in front of the whole student section" could cease. I don't like it when people find something that's popular and then try to become a part of it so that they can put themselves in a position to have people pay attention to them. You seemed to have a rather warped view of the world. Oh my god he's stretching what an egotistical prick. stretching your quad's just screams look at me. you seem extremely cynical and to be taking the most negative interpretation of a person's actions possible. I see the push ups and dancing as just ways of releasing energy, he's excited so he's expressing it. I can understand looking at him and thinking he looks silly and you might think some of the stuff he does is stupid, I just don't get how people are getting that he's trying to show off and make a spectacle of himself to get attention like he has some agenda besides cheering on the hoyas and getting the crowd to do so as well.
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DanMcQ
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Post by DanMcQ on Dec 10, 2007 12:14:07 GMT -5
MOD NOTE: see my post on page 1 of this thread.
For the record, we moderate this board as a volunteer effort and, apparently shockingly, sometimes we aren't looking at it 24 hours a day. Also for the record, name calling directed at student-athletes and student-cheerleaders is not allowed.
On Edit: WBH must be back from South America. If not, this is moderation above and beyond the call of duty.
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Post by WilsonBlvdHoya on Dec 10, 2007 12:17:29 GMT -5
Ha ha. Nope still in South America and happy to moderate in Portuguese! ;D Enjoying Sao Paulo and will return before Xmas but not before the Memphis game unfortunately......
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kchoya
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Post by kchoya on Dec 10, 2007 12:22:54 GMT -5
Don't worry I fixed Vern. Um, that could be interpreted several different ways...
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Post by strummer8526 on Dec 10, 2007 12:25:10 GMT -5
I am subtly mocking him to my friends. Aren't we all friends? Also, as far as the anonymity thing goes, I'd be more than happy to tell anyone who I am.
[SELF EDITING SO I DON'T GET YELLED AT]
It was a great game. There's not a whole lot to complain about in Hoyaland. I'm pretty sure Jacksonville thought that Ewing was playing on their team for a few minutes when they threw three or four consecutive passes to him. Anyone else also notice that when the ads on the scoreboard and all the side screens change from StubHub to Comcast, it makes Verizon noticeably darker? It's kinda cool.
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theexorcist
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Post by theexorcist on Dec 10, 2007 12:42:40 GMT -5
Strummer85:
It's less the friends thing and more the "it's on the internet for all to see" thing. Sending an email to your friends or bantering about them is one thing. When you put it here, though, it's permament.
Personal advice (after almost ten years out of college) - be careful what you write about yourself and others on the internet, whether in an email or a blog post or Facebook or here. There's a responsibility that comes with it being available for all to see until it gets deleted and what you wrote five years ago, either about you or others, can come back to burn you. Bad.
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Post by strummer8526 on Dec 10, 2007 12:49:04 GMT -5
Strummer85: It's less the friends thing and more the "it's on the internet for all to see" thing. Sending an email to your friends or bantering about them is one thing. When you put it here, though, it's permament. Personal advice (after almost ten years out of college) - be careful what you write about yourself and others on the internet, whether in an email or a blog post or Facebook or here. There's a responsibility that comes with it being available for all to see until it gets deleted and what you wrote five years ago, either about you or others, can come back to burn you. Bad. It sounds like you have an interesting (or possibly tragic) story.
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hoyatables
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Post by hoyatables on Dec 10, 2007 12:53:45 GMT -5
Strummer85: It's less the friends thing and more the "it's on the internet for all to see" thing. Sending an email to your friends or bantering about them is one thing. When you put it here, though, it's permament. Personal advice (after almost ten years out of college) - be careful what you write about yourself and others on the internet, whether in an email or a blog post or Facebook or here. There's a responsibility that comes with it being available for all to see until it gets deleted and what you wrote five years ago, either about you or others, can come back to burn you. Bad. It sounds like you have an interesting (or possibly tragic) story. Actually, you don't even need to cite a good story as an example these days. First thing many do every time they interview a new candidate (say, a law student applying for a summer associate position) is search google as well as facebook and other networking sites. It can be as fatal as a typo on your resume. Best rule of thumb: never write anything you wouldn't wanted posted on the front page of the NY Times with your name attributed to it.
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DanMcQ
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Post by DanMcQ on Dec 10, 2007 13:16:09 GMT -5
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DFW HOYA
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Post by DFW HOYA on Dec 10, 2007 13:21:21 GMT -5
Best rule of thumb: never write anything you wouldn't wanted posted on the front page of the NY Times with your name attributed to it. NOW they tell me! Seriously, for those of us who didn't get in to law school, you're only as good as the name of the last job you were at. If your past job was the copy center at IBM, that still gets more doors opened than working at John Doe & Associates. Whether your degree says Georgetown or not may not play into it, either. I can't say the word "Georgetown" helped me get a single full time job.
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