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Post by 95hoya on Jun 4, 2020 8:34:46 GMT -5
There are so many fans stuck in the past with their Nostalgic thoughts. It's not about getting back to what was in the past. And there isn't some formula to get there. It's about adapting to the modern landscape and and creating a new identity. That brand you all loved is dead.
And there isn't some strategy to "Get kids that love Georgetown". We happen to be getting kids whose best option by far is Georgetown. That's not a good thing. They'd love some other bigger programs if they came calling.
We have far too many kids who weren't desirable to P5 programs. It's frightening.
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Post by 95hoya on May 27, 2020 0:08:19 GMT -5
Someone told me he wanted Maryland and they said no thanks. He isn't held in the highest regards by a lot of people. Doesn't make him a bad kid, he's just kind of a headache and that's more tolerable if can really play. His game is a headache for coaches too because in his mind he gets buckets and fans see that he gets buckets, but its not efficient and not in the flow of an offense and he doesn't offer much else. The idiots on social media created a diva.
Beard is a fantastic coach. Maybe he gets more out of him and Mac scores more efficiently playing with more talented players.
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Post by 95hoya on May 26, 2020 13:09:19 GMT -5
I would be fine if it never happens again if I never have to read another Kenner scouting report.
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Post by 95hoya on May 18, 2020 9:21:09 GMT -5
So you don’t think the staff has been trying to work with Mac on his PG skills since day one despite him stating that was one of his main reasons for attending and praising the staff in the past for pushing him? Or do you mean full time in games? Well one argument can be made that he hasn’t yet earned the in game rights because he didn’t even master the role in practice.... I don't attend their practices so I have no clue what their working with Mac on. I would have to assume they are focused on Mac's role as a SG and not developing him as a PG. I mean I doubt they're working on Q's small forward skills, or Blair's center skills. So why would I think they are focused on Mac's PG skills if they don't play him there? I can't imagine he plays much if any PG in practice. Maybe you are right, maybe they tried working him into a PG in practice and he just sucked so bad they couldn't let him play there in the games. Entirely possible. Either way, if Mac is hellbent on playing the position, why wouldn't he look for another opportunity where he thinks he has a better chance of landing that role? At the end of the day it's his life, his career, he has a right to do what he thinks is best for himself, even if internet board warriors think he has to be a SG the rest of his life. Why would anyone concern themselves with developing Mac as a Point Guard anyway when there are many more talented options who can play the position. You sound like the parent who thinks their kid should be developed as a QB. Sports isn't about equal opportunity. It's talent driven.
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Post by 95hoya on May 17, 2020 21:47:56 GMT -5
It's not about what position he plays. It's a skill you either have or you don't. There are centers with higher assist rates than Mac. You can't teach a guy to see the floor, it's something players pick up on their own playing the game. He constantly drives with his head down.
He's not an NBA prospect. Doesn't shoot, dribble, defend, or dribble all that well. He's a guy who wants to shoot a lot, and doesn't do it efficiently or within the structure of an offense all that well. The fact he got feedback from the NBA doesn't mean they view him as a legit prospect.
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Post by 95hoya on May 17, 2020 18:58:42 GMT -5
I think it was a reasonable expectation to have at least one 20 win season or two BET games won by the end of the third season. Which would lead to people expecting elite talent, but stuff happened. The worry is can this team get there under Ewing, not what happens when we get there. I wouldn't say that was an irrational thought before the first season began. Also, when people mention elite, do you guys mean five stars (who people think Ewing shouldn't go after, for some reason) or top 50 guys? A rational expectation for this upcoming season would be some player development evident throughout the season and a defensive scheme improvement, leading to a top 8 finish in the Big East, right? And my worry is the team doesn't get there. I think that's more the worry over what happens when there is success. Okay but that wasn’t the question or the discussion. Fact is you can’t recruit if you don’t win and we haven’t won enough yet. Even if it was we won 19 games in his second year and were well on our way to eclipsing that before two players got homesick enough and influenced enough by people close to them to bail on the season. Fans can choose to hold Ewing responsible for the departures all they want and continue to preach OnLy ReSuLtS mAtTeR, but fact of the matter is Ewing put together a 20+ win team to start his third year and to ignore that is to look at the situation with no sophistication whatsoever (if we’re talking about his ability to coach, not to retain the players need to keep the building standing). But yes the discussion was about posters knocking Ewing for not landing top 25-50 talent I suppose. Even though in a redraft of his second class (now gone) we had 3 of the top 25 players in that class...but it’s hard for people who don’t want to hear or see that fact to accept it. All they believe in is how diligent the rivals or ESPN are and still don’t fully understand the underlying mechanics of ranking kids in high school. 3 of the top 25? According to who? None of those kids are in the top 25 even if they re-ranked. You are just making stuff up. Kids are not buying in. Look at the recruiting struggles. The kids who come here are happy to come here, not because they are buying in, but because Georgetown was the best they can do. That's true for most of the commits the last couple of years.
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Post by 95hoya on May 17, 2020 10:39:27 GMT -5
The program is a disaster, and we have posters praising Ewing for building a great culture. Really? And why are we blaming the kids? They are 17-21 year olds. No it's not their fault. It's on the HC, just like it is at every program. Some tough postgame quotes are not evidence he is building a great culture.
It's Ewing's job to get kids to buy in, sell the program. If he can't do that and he hasn't done that this far, that's a failure on his part. Not the kids. So let's stop making excuses about how kid's today are the problem. Remember when we were 17-21 and would shake our heads at the older generation who were stubborn and not adjusting with the times? "Your Way" or "My Way" isn't the best way. Adapt to the changes. That's what good parents do, isn't it? You can't raise your kids the same way your parents raised you.
Pat needs to adapt. He needs to change and he needs a staff that can adapt to today's game. Our staff looks like dinosaurs to these kids.
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Post by 95hoya on May 16, 2020 21:27:07 GMT -5
He's done to UMD.
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Post by 95hoya on May 14, 2020 10:57:10 GMT -5
The knock on Ewing in the NBA and why no one hired him to be a HC is his ability to communicate and relate to younger kids. Seems like that's shown to be true during his tenure here. It's not normal for guys to transfer with years remaining when they have a starting spot and prominent role established. It's just not.
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Post by 95hoya on May 3, 2020 17:04:05 GMT -5
I would love as much as the next guy (or gal) for us to land a 5 star member of the class of 2020, or even a well regarded 4 star. That being said, there is basically little to no downside on Bile as long as he comports himself well (no reason to think he won't) since he's a graduate transfer, and he only takes the scholarship for one year. We basically have a dearth of wings/forwards, and arguably he's already better than Pickett. So you'd rather leave the spot empty? What? There's nothing to suggest he's better than Pickett. He's not. That's absurd.
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Post by 95hoya on May 3, 2020 17:00:33 GMT -5
This guy averages more than twice as many turnovers than assists, and that's at a low major, not mid major. What the staff is doing, none of have a clue. But it's not good.
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Post by 95hoya on Apr 30, 2020 16:56:38 GMT -5
Maryland or Cuse. He ain't coming here.
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Post by 95hoya on Apr 5, 2020 4:23:52 GMT -5
I really hope our standards have not sunk to us being satisfied with just the roster having more people than last year and someone having played at a high major. So you'd rather be satisfied by adding no one? Thats the logic you're using. A level of satisfaction and welcoming someone who wants to join our program are two completely different things. The fact of the matter is last week he wasn't on the roster and now he has been added. The alternative is having added no one. I don't know if you're expecting the next Zion to just Waltz in the door? Best alternative is adding impact talent like other programs are doing.
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Post by 95hoya on Apr 4, 2020 18:25:16 GMT -5
It’s amazing to me how one moment we are talking about how we are a sinking ship, dead in the water, when it comes to recruitment, then we land one, and all of a sudden, he is not good. I do believe I heard the same thing coming from the same sources last year with Allen. Then, when he played beyond his expectations, he is a great Hoya! Discussion and speculation is one thing, but attacking the worth of a recruit before he settles in is wrong. Let Ewing go to work. Let’s appreciate all the work that is being put in in a recruiting climate right now. One look at the numbers show Allen is a better player than this kid. And Allen was best served as a backup.
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Post by 95hoya on Apr 4, 2020 13:58:07 GMT -5
LOL at people making such a big deal about his 3pt percentage. Yes, we'd all love to bring in a transfer who shot 40% last year. If Harris would have had three more of his tries go down (over a 32 game season), his percentage would be the same as Jahvon Blair's last season. Guess he'll need to make one more three pointer every ten games and that will keep everyone here a little happier. It's a poor percentage on low volume and presumably being not closely guarded. Pretty ridiculous to make that comparison. Mac's numbers aren't much different but it's on a high volume of shots and contested.
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Post by 95hoya on Apr 4, 2020 13:36:20 GMT -5
If you shoot well below 40% from the field and way below 30% from 3 as a low usage guy, you are unplayable. They just won't guard you and will treat you like a walk on and teammates get frustrated because they are getting extra help because you are a not a threat. Arky fans who presumably saw him a lot, seemed to feel he was at least a solid contributor on a decent SEC team. Considering the state of the roster, Ill take that next year. I don't put any stock in what 1 or 2 Arkansas fans say. What we have are the numbers and they are bad. We need to turn this thing around but I'm not seeing reason to believe it's happening.
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Post by 95hoya on Apr 4, 2020 13:20:39 GMT -5
If you shoot well below 40% from the field and way below 30% from 3 as a low usage guy, you are unplayable. They just won't guard you and will treat you like a walk on and teammates get frustrated because they are getting extra help because you are a not a threat.
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Post by 95hoya on Apr 4, 2020 13:12:25 GMT -5
A lot of excitement for a guy who has been a well below average player. The numbers paint an ugly picture. Fans are so desperate that they are reaching for any sign of hope. If the goal is to make the NCAA Tournament, this isn't a step in that direction.
If one of our competitors added this kid, we wouldn't be saying "Man, they just got better". We made fun of the Pipkins addition and how overhyped he was, but he's waaaaay better than this kid.
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Post by 95hoya on Mar 30, 2020 14:56:04 GMT -5
Who is Mac's comparable in the NBA? This should be interesting.
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Post by 95hoya on Mar 30, 2020 14:51:35 GMT -5
Daytona...you need to post more often. Literally why? His post suffers from the bias that the other poster predicted. We are more critical of our own than we are other teams’ players. Tre Jones is not head and shoulders above Mac as a prospect and there’s a very real argument to be made that Mac can develop into a better pro player. My god this is a bad look for the board. Jones was one of the best guards in the country this year. Mac was an inefficient gunner.
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