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Post by b52legend on May 2, 2023 13:00:02 GMT -5
This is one of three reasons why he would choose GTown. The 1st is he will be the big dog at GTown. All of the offense will run through him. The 2nd is being close to home. People need to stop thinking about recruiting in the 2010s way. I'm sorry but being a "college basketball legend" isn't factoring in anywhere. For one thing, when the major football schools in their two super conferences formally separate from the NCAA in the 2030s, Georgetown and college basketball in general will be the equivalent of division 3 sports. There is no such thing as a college basketball legend anymore. Secondly, kids will go to the highest bidder. If he goes further from home, he can use the extra few hundred grand to fly his parents in whenever he wants. It's about money now, that's why Dickinson is in the portal in the first place. I disagree that this isn’t a factor. Nick Smith Jr. at Arkansas was one of the top recruits in the class. He came back from a knee injury and played the last 1/3 of the season when EVERYONE was saying he shouldn’t play and should preserve himself for the draft. He arguably lost some draft status because he played pretty poorly after coming back. He stated he came back because he wanted to compete and try and do something special at Arkansas. Either he is a liar or there are other motivations. Don’t get me wrong, money matters, but that isn’t the only thing that matters.
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Post by b52legend on May 1, 2023 18:17:12 GMT -5
There's no reliable info out there - so where he ends up is anyone's guess. But even looking through Blue and Gray colored glasses it's very hard to make a persuasive argument of why he'd pick Georgetown. You've got to assume the NIL money he wants will be acquiesced to by everybody in his final group. And Georgetown is by far and away the biggest question mark when it comes to roster. The only thing that even gives me the smallest iota of pause is that it seems pretty apparent that we've been slow rolling other transfers/commits waiting for this shoe to drop. Which you would hope infers the staff thinks they have a legitimate shot. Let's hope they have a plan B. If HD wants to be remembered 30 years from now, I would argue Gtown may be the best place to make that happen. What better story to write at the end of his college basketball career than helping to bring back this stories program from the gutter. Even casual basketball fans still know Gtown legends from 40 years ago. He can put his face in the pantheon of college basketball greats. Or he can be another name at another program that people will forget about in a few years. Haha. Who are we kidding? KU lock.
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Post by b52legend on May 1, 2023 12:50:04 GMT -5
The threshold for posting on a fan message board shouldn't be "is this necessary"? It is a message board. If you don't want to read the post, don't click on it or don't visit the website. The inter-poster bickering on this message board has gotten out of hand....
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Post by b52legend on Mar 31, 2023 13:04:51 GMT -5
I see a lot of folks leaving, but nobody coming in... This is kind of silly. Kids are declaring for the transfer portal now. They then like to get courted, take visits, etc. There have been almost no big time transfer commitments anywhere at this point.
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Post by b52legend on Mar 27, 2023 13:03:46 GMT -5
I would like to see NIL as a pot of money to reward performance. Not guaranteed money to get players. Line up donors and sponsors who are willing to pay NIL money, and then give the opportunities to the kids who perform. Give certain opportunities to the whole team so everyone gets something. Create a program where team success breeds NIL success.
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Post by b52legend on Mar 22, 2023 11:27:04 GMT -5
This is night and day. I’m excited.
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Post by b52legend on Mar 19, 2023 11:10:44 GMT -5
Interesting tidbit I heard in an interview with Eric Musselman. He said the has Arkansas focus on defense in scouting and practice. Players are expected to follow detailed coaching instructions. Playing time is earned by playing defense. The trade off, is that on the offensive end players are given a lot of freedom. Obviously have to have talented players, but this seems like the opposite approach of Georgetown under Ewing. After watching basketball all day yesterday, the winning teams (Bama, Houston, Tennessee, UCLA, Arkansas) are all defensive focused.
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Post by b52legend on Mar 15, 2023 14:53:00 GMT -5
Bill Simmons talked about Georgetown on podcast today with his college guy, Titus. And I quote “The Georgetown job is unbelievable “ and “If they hire Rick Petino they could win a national title”. Outside perception of the program maybe hasn’t fallen as far as I thought. Titus speculated Petino would want the Georgetown job more than any others because he would know he could win here and win quickly. Let’s get it done.
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Post by b52legend on Feb 24, 2023 15:18:24 GMT -5
Transfer portal doesn’t sleep. Unlike 10 years ago, it is imperative that we get our guy early if we want a chance next year.
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Post by b52legend on Feb 16, 2023 16:19:01 GMT -5
What a fan base we have when posters say I'm outer here if I don't get a new coach I approve of. I say "bye bye" I would say this is pretty standard fanbase behavior. Arena's are full for winning teams and empty for losing teams. That is fan bases saying I'm out of here when a coach isn't performing. If you want to be a die hard who goes to every game win or lose, good for you, but don't look down your nose at the vast majority of Hoya fans who want to see a competitive team and are not going to take the time out of their lives, or spend the money, to see blow out loss after blow out loss.
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Post by b52legend on Feb 7, 2023 20:27:36 GMT -5
This is simple:
- Win basketball games. This is what it is all about. Everything else that is beneficial to the school, students, alumni and the “brand” flows from winning.
- Do right by the PLAYERS. This doesn’t mean being soft. The coach is in control, but the coach’s sole focus should be winning (see above) and making his players successful (professional basketball, NIL, academics). We should develop players so they get better and we should treat them fairly. No promises of playing time. No selfish basketball. Build a culture of competition where players expect to compete against the best for playing time and develop into pro ready prospects. Lastly, recruit players who want to win above all else.
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Post by b52legend on Feb 3, 2023 11:26:43 GMT -5
Random thoughts:
- As a huge fan (I still consider myself one), I have rarely watched games this season. It is depressing, on multiple levels, and I don't see a point. Hope springs eternal though, and a new coach is the only way I'm going to have any. - As crazy at it sounds, I too am not certain Ewing is gone after this year. They brought him back after a winless conference record in his fifth season, with a vote of confidence no less. For the scholars out that, has any coach in his fifth year or later ever kept his job after such a miserable year? My guess is no. So who knows what Georgetown will do. - The Board desperately needs to empower the AD to run all aspects of the basketball program. JD should have zero role in coaching search, contract negotiations or any other aspect of the basketball program. - Maybe I am delusional, but there is no reason we shouldn't be competing for the BE title and on an national stage within 3-4 years. The transfer market has completely changed college basketball, and a new coach who knows what they are doing on the court, how to leverage GTown's strengths and how to engage the fan base, would be able to inject some excitement immediately.
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Post by b52legend on Jan 11, 2023 11:10:54 GMT -5
I think the Georgetown job, when it becomes available, will be very attractive. The hired coach is no longer following a legend, they are following the worst coaching job in BE history and taking over a team that can go no lower. The hired coach will have a long leash given the circumstances and almost any improvement will be lauded. We have good facilities, it is a high paying job, the school is singularly focused on basketball from an athletics perspective, we are in a Power 6 conference, we have qualities that could lead to strong recruiting. The big question isn’t if we could get a good coach. The question is if we will do a legitimate process to actually get one. We haven’t had an unaffiliated basketball coaching hire in 50 years.
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Post by b52legend on Jan 4, 2023 21:15:55 GMT -5
It’s amazing how easy it is to get a wide open 3 against us. With the athletes we have, it’s clearly just poor coaching. Has been for years now.
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Post by b52legend on Jan 2, 2023 8:20:56 GMT -5
I remember when I used to talk about Hoya hoops with the stranger on my flight home from college.
I remember when I used to chat about the BE Tourney and recruits with partners at the law firm.
I remember when I used to be proud of our program’s rightful place as the standard bearer of the league.
I remember when we used to take alumni weekend trips to DC to catch a game and visit campus.
These days are all long gone. This disaster is impacting the alumni community and experience. It’s about more than basketball. Hopeful someone sees the light.
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Post by b52legend on Dec 19, 2022 16:24:10 GMT -5
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Post by b52legend on Dec 19, 2022 9:10:51 GMT -5
I'll be rooting for Dante. I wish we had a program worth staying at, but we don't, and for the time being I won't blame any kid for looking at options elsewhere.
After Ewing's comments about not being able to get rid of his players because this isn't the pros (i.e., throwing them directly under the bus wheels), I understood why nobody throughout Ewing's tenure has wanted to stick around. They are viewed and spoken of as expendable.
Perhaps this is just modern basketball, but I don't think so. Other programs are able maintain a mutual respect between player and program. Our program instead seems to suffer from a mutual disrespect. It is an unhappy marriage that both parties stay in because they have no other options. I'm just exhausted from witnessing it.
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Post by b52legend on Dec 16, 2022 12:46:29 GMT -5
His hand will be forced eventually, as this season will make clear the team has made no progress. We’ll lose a lot, and eventually, even for Jack it will require action.
The silly thing is every other program in the country would have taken action last year. The reason we didn’t is apparent in Jack’s answer. We have vested authority over a sports program in someone who knows nothing about said sports program. Everything he mentions is secondary to the fact that all our players transfer out and we don’t know how to play defense. Give the power to the AD, once and for all, and take it away from the academics. Let him focus on Supreme Court cases and let the AD focus on how we can win basketball games.
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Post by b52legend on Dec 15, 2022 15:10:52 GMT -5
Ewing needs to be fired right now. Really no reason not to. The season is lost. He is lost as a coach. The firing will spare him having to endure back to back winless Big East seasons, which is looking like a real possibility. We all (except for the Georgetown PTB) knew that keeping Ewing was a massive mistake. At this point, this embarrassment is tarnishing the University’s broader brand. Just cut bait and show that we are serious about going in a new direction. Let Nickelberry finish out the year as interim coach. At least then there will be hope. Hope for the future. For players and fans. Right now Georgetown is the wrecked car that is slowly getting pushed down the train tracks. Time to jump out. Friendly reminder: - Adminhoyatalk2.proboards.com/thread/13110/message-board-rules-updated-27
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Post by b52legend on Dec 5, 2022 15:08:26 GMT -5
One important thing that isn't getting mentioned while we pull our hair out about this season is that the college basketball landscape is undergoing massive change. The NBA is about to get rid of one-and-done. NIL and the transfer portal, not to mention the G-League, have changed player recruitment and retention. The conference landscape is still fluid and the haves are widening the gap with the have-nots, with more TV money (including a college football playoff) on the way. Georgetown has plenty in its favor. It's a top-25 academic school and a lovely place to go to college, and the Big East has done well enough these past several years. But the on-the-court problems in 2022 only scratch the surface of the deeper issues, which is what Georgetown's long-term vision is to survive in the world mentioned above. If that vision exists, it's not evident and certainly not communicated. We can fire all the people and go get Rick Pitino or go get the hot mid-major coach, but the structural questions still remain, and have only become more pressing. The new transfer rules have actually made it easier than ever to rebuild a program, with a huge number of talented and experienced players looking for teams every year. True sustained success at accessing talent may take a few years to built (as high school relationships are built), but a team can immediately be competitive if the coach is someone that transfers have reason to believe in.
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