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Post by LCPolo18 on Jul 8, 2020 9:40:15 GMT -5
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Post by LCPolo18 on Jul 7, 2020 22:14:36 GMT -5
One of the more interesting parts to me (although I’m not sure I fully followed it) was in the last 15-20 minutes of the Braswell/Sweetney episode. KB mentioned being on a Zoom recruiting call with Turgeon and a kid in New Zealand Kevin knows (trains?). He said Turgeon, before even talking about “bouncing the ball” discussed financial benefits, like the ability to save stipend money, being introduced to financial advisors, etc. such that “the kids would have $40k put away when graduating”. I’m not assuming UMCP is the only program to have figured out ways to plays within the rules on this stuff, and I’m guessing they only lead with it to top recruits (Braswell said this kid was a one and done) but thought it was interesting. I had forgotten about this, but I think the Big East was the first conference to approve stipends to basketball players back in like 2015ish. It was only like $2-4K per year, but I believe it might have been tied to a % of tuition so it might have increased since then. Afterwards, the power 5 conferences passed a similar stipend, and in particular the Big Ten provides more for players who live off campus as opposed to on campus. Here are the Maryland figures for 2015: “Students who live on campus will be granted a $2,820 stipend while off-campus students will receive a $4,196 stipend.” Even if that amount has increased to $5k per year, it would require a pretty aggressive investment strategy to get to $40k at graduation, though it’s certainly possible that the UMD recruiters were exaggerating/rounding up a little bit. Anyways, back to your point, Georgetown is already giving this stipend, but I’m not sure if they’re providing the players with financial advisors like UMD is to encourage saving/investing, and I’m not sure that the Big East has the different stipend levels for on campus/off campus. From 2015: “Lee Reed declined to disclose exactly how much Georgetown’s stipends will be, but the school’s financial aid office estimates the amount at about $2,600.” An additional interesting point that was made during that segment was that UMD puts the players off campus and makes the leases in the players’ names while paying the rent in order to help the players have better credit when they graduate.
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Post by LCPolo18 on Jul 7, 2020 21:50:37 GMT -5
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Post by LCPolo18 on Jul 7, 2020 15:47:09 GMT -5
The answer is 2021’s No. 25 player Matthew Cleveland of Atlanta (Ga.) Pace Academy. I know that Corey and Dan feel the same way. He was ridiculous last weekend. So, how about another name to spread the love some? Give me 2021 point guard Darius Johnson who I watched play in the Virtual Prospect Evaluation Series run by Team Parsons in Florida throughout June. A 6-foot-1 floor general who currently ranks just outside of the Rivals150, Johnson’s explosive playmaking and his ability to fill it up from deep really stood out to me. His play during the VPES earned him offers from Alabama, Florida, Georgetown and Providence. basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/news/rivals-roundtable-players-who-have-impressed-recentlyFour-star Matthew Cleveland announced a final five last week of Florida State, Kansas, Michigan, NC State and Stanford. Cleveland has not said when he will announce his college decision but there is a fair chance that he will attempt to visit his finalists one more time before committing. For now, on-campus recruiting is barred until August 31 and if that moratorium is extended much beyond that date, Cleveland could commit sight unseen. In the meantime, Florida State has garnered most of the talk with him. Michigan has picked up ground, too, since the Wolverines offered earlier in the spring. If there is one program to keep an eye on, it is Stanford. The Cardinal have a great selling point which is replacing five-star Ziaire Williams after the season. It is not every year that a talent like Williams selects a program like the Cardinal which is why Jerod Haase’s bunch needs to hit while the iron is hot. basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/news/twitter-tuesday-illinois-alabama-arkansas-floridaFYI, your previous post was about Darius Johnson’s Georgetown offer (it’s awkwardly buried in the paragraph). I don’t think the Hoyas have shown interest in Matthew Cleveland yet.
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Post by LCPolo18 on Jul 6, 2020 16:43:58 GMT -5
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Post by LCPolo18 on Jul 5, 2020 21:18:27 GMT -5
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Post by LCPolo18 on Jul 5, 2020 13:18:15 GMT -5
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Post by LCPolo18 on Jul 5, 2020 11:54:42 GMT -5
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Post by LCPolo18 on Jul 4, 2020 17:30:43 GMT -5
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Post by LCPolo18 on Jul 3, 2020 19:11:43 GMT -5
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Post by LCPolo18 on Jul 2, 2020 15:25:45 GMT -5
The writer is saying that Blakes has been more intrigued by schools with "higher academics" which is why he may not be interested in UConn. Don't mean to rag on you but this is a prime example of what I mean when I say that posters post things unrelated to Hoyas all the time in the threads. Why are we interested in what is going on at UConn? Can somebody please tell me this? I see posters posting about other schools all the time in these threads. Who are we rooting for Georgetown or all the other schools? I believe hoyaboya posted the original article because it mentions some of the local recruits that Georgetown is pursuing (Keels, Robinson, Hawkins, Allen). Personally, I typically post Tweets and articles when Georgetown is mentioned, but others will post anything about any of the recruits Georgetown is involved with so that people here can understand their recruitment and what schools are competing with the Hoyas for those recruits.
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Post by LCPolo18 on Jul 2, 2020 13:01:18 GMT -5
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Post by LCPolo18 on Jul 2, 2020 12:13:41 GMT -5
For sure, I hear you. That’s why in my first post I said that I was worried that people would have unfair expectations of him, but you responded that you didn’t think people had expectations of him. Anyways, my only point is that there is a difference between hyping the program as a former player and recruiting for the program as a former player. He has to be careful with these podcasts. Even if he isn't saying it, what is being said on a show he hosts has an effect. Yeah but I think he’s responding appropriately. He always says something to the affect of “I’ll try my best, no promises”.
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Post by LCPolo18 on Jul 2, 2020 11:42:33 GMT -5
On nearly every Instagram Live of Dawg Talk, Freeman gets a question from fans asking if he’s going to get DeMatha players to come to Georgetown now that he’s a coach there. Think about it. Since he has put himself out there with these podcasts on discussions about the program's recruiting issues from the local area, that would most likely heighten people's expectations of him. For sure, I hear you. That’s why in my first post I said that I was worried that people would have unfair expectations of him, but you responded that you didn’t think people had expectations of him. Anyways, my only point is that there is a difference between hyping the program as a former player and recruiting for the program as a former player.
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Post by LCPolo18 on Jul 2, 2020 10:04:08 GMT -5
I don't think anybody is expecting anything from these players. Are there any former players funneling local recruits to G-town right now? On nearly every Instagram Live of Dawg Talk, Freeman gets a question from fans asking if he’s going to get DeMatha players to come to Georgetown now that he’s a coach there.
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Post by LCPolo18 on Jul 1, 2020 21:40:28 GMT -5
Georgetown: “I had great conversations with their coaches. They were telling me about how they have good connections with the NBA.”
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Post by LCPolo18 on Jul 1, 2020 21:34:24 GMT -5
Braswell has top guys he could bring to G-town? Really? Does he have to be an assistant to help push them to G-town? That is where the help is needed. Braswell said he was close to the parent or coach of a few players around Baltimore. From that perspective, I think there’s a big difference between him saying “hey you should check out Georgetown” and “hey you know me and trust me, come play for me at Georgetown”. Similarly, I worry that people are going to suddenly expect Freeman to funnel players to Georgetown. That’s not his job. His job is to coach kids at DeMatha. He could suggest that players should look at Georgetown and he could hype the school, but in the end his job is to look out for their best interests and uphold the DeMatha program. After a few years of experience, if he had a job at Georgetown, he could leverage his experience as a former player and coach at DeMatha to connect with and recruit future DeMatha players.
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Post by LCPolo18 on Jul 1, 2020 18:11:09 GMT -5
I wonder if they can get Chuck on one of these "Talks". They’ve mentioned a couple times that Iverson is busy doing his thing, so this groundswell of alumni support will start with players like Freeman and Wright and then get Iverson involved once things have been established and the program is more stable (I’m paraphrasing, don’t shoot me that it’s not the exact words they used).
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Post by LCPolo18 on Jul 1, 2020 15:38:48 GMT -5
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Post by LCPolo18 on Jul 1, 2020 15:01:05 GMT -5
So I have finally caught up on most of the podcasts. This all VERY interesting. There were 2 Zoom calls a few weeks ago where they brought back former players which is where all of these podcasts spawned from. Patrick Ewing Jr. seems to be a big part of this because of his alumni role on staff. While these episodes are full of great stories and info there are a few clear underlying messages in most of these shows. 1. Pat is doing a great job especially this past year and none of this is his fault. 2. We need to recruit the DMV. 3. We need an alum on staff and Waheed is getting thrown under the bus without ever mentioning his name. What I find fascinating is who these messages are directed at. #1 seems to be directed at the fans that are even mentioning Ewing's seat getting warm. This seems to be the present day method of silencing the fans that are voicing their displeasure here and other platforms. While others alluded to it Mark Thompson flat out came and said it. Instead of intimidating those people at games like they did for JT3 they will use these podcasts. They clearly want to keep this lineage going and don't want to have to replace Ewing because the next in line is not as easy as the previous choices have been. This is not surprising. #2 and #3 are were it really gets good. Who are they trying to get the message to that an assistant or maybe more needs to go and that some others with Hoyas ties need to be hired. If it was to Ewing I don't think they would be this public about it. They can all reach out to him and respect him too much to throw him under the bus like this. It seems that they are trying to send a clear concerted message to someone else. Shouldn't Ewing have full control in this? Why would they need to do this? 🤔 I hope it all keeps going as we as fans are finally getting a peak behind the curtains. Two things came to my mind from listening to the podcasts related to your points about audience. 1. At least twice (I believe once by Braswell) people mentioned that Ewing was loyal to “his guys”. 2. Someone on Twitter mentioned that the University has a hiring freeze due to the current circumstances.
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