sleepy
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Post by sleepy on Jun 14, 2007 15:37:29 GMT -5
haha, for some reason i cant picture DaJuan laughing out loud.
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RDF
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Post by RDF on Jun 14, 2007 15:38:58 GMT -5
If his decision to go is based on the celtics drafting him, then he's def coming back. They are awful. One a side note: Why is Minny trading for Juwanji? ID, not to be a jerk, but as the president of bringing truth and logic about T-Puppy Misery--let me remind you this franchise: 1. Fired a coach who was .500 with same talent that guy who replaced him went 12 games UNDER .500 and gave the replacement a 3 year EXTENSION!!! Wittman is a failure as a coach and will continue to be. 2. Signed Mike James to a big offseason contract and then asked him to be what he's not--a setup point guard--he needs to attack/score to be effective. 3. Thinks Randy Foye is so valuable--they traded the ROOKIE OF THE YEAR Brandon Roy to get him--and then could've had Allen Iverson if they traded Foye to Philly prior to season, declined, and wonder why they can't sell tickets? 4. Think Randy Foye--who can't do anything with his left hand and that includes dribbling--is their PG of the future and next "Dwayne Wade"--and he's shown to be more like Dwyane WAYNE!!! 5. In response to getting Kevin Garnett "help" they called up Bracey Wright from the NBDL!!! 6. Sign Mark Madsen to an extension and actually play him minutes as if he can factor into helping a team win with his skills. He was a MASCOT on the Lakers used to entertain and with Wolves--they think he can play. I will stop here--but there is no doubt they will NOT take Jeff Green-he's got too much game and as local beat writer Patrick Reusse said a few weeks back--"Whomever is the biggest BUST in the '07 Draft--you can count on the morons who run this franchise to select him"--and assuming they have a clue--now they need a PG--unless they believe Troy Hudson will put down his disasterous attempt as a Hip Hop MC and actually try to play ball again--but again--he's got no game--so why would that happen?
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Post by BubbleVisionBiff on Jun 14, 2007 15:48:07 GMT -5
It's obvious Jeff has already decided to go pro. That's why he's having all these NBA teams come in so he will have enough information to make up his mind and ultimately to return to school for his senior year. Just remember 50/50 or 70/30 means nothing without a confidence level, adjusted by the Poisson Ratio and Newton's 3rd Law of Motion. The Method of Omphalaskepsis was used in his decision to turn pro. My source of information? Got an email from Sixer's source which started "can you tell me how to text message?" Jeff has scheduled a news conference for June 31 to explain his decision to return to school. In the meantime he is drafting an announcement for Monday and has enlisted the aid of Lic to ensure everyone clearly understands his decision. Don't put much stock into the fact he's scheduled a workout with the Toronto Maple Leafs for Tuesday. He would absolutely win the Calder Trophy next year.
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gujake
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Post by gujake on Jun 14, 2007 15:55:24 GMT -5
If he is coming back, he hasn't said it yet because he's gaining valuable info and experience for this time next year. Working out with these teams is only helping Jeff. I think this is a point that some might underestimate. Obviously he gains information about what he should work on, but the experience that he gets going through the process will help him out tremendously next year if he decides to stay. Maybe a good comparison is taking a practice test for something like the SATs, you get used to the kinds of things teams are looking for, the kinds of questions they ask, etc.
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RDF
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Post by RDF on Jun 14, 2007 15:59:10 GMT -5
All I want is for Jeff to eventually do what HE WANTS--not what he thinks he SHOULD DO--so if he wants to leave--he should go. If he wants to return, enjoy college, and try to win a championship--GO AHEAD and don't worry about what is going to be perceived. What I find interesting is that NBA teams get sense he doesn't want to leave--and if that is the case--he SHOULD RETURN. They are conducting the interview-they are the ones talking with him and mulitiple times we've heard that "various NBA Teams/Sources think he wants to go back to school"--if that is case, why not return? There is no right/wrong--Jeff needs to do what HE WANTS--and he's handled himself in a manner that won't hurt himself either way-but the most important thing is to do what he wants and not look back--nothing wrong with going or staying--but don't do either because it's what you think you should do--do what you know in your heart you WANT to do and don't look back. If that means I'm watching him on NBA League Pass, great. If it's watching him in Hoya uniform, I'll be through the roof, but he's got my support and everyone who is a Hoya fan no matter what. All the kids do. This past week has been great for info/speculating, and just makes the upcoming days more like Signing Day or Draft Day and have to say--has made offseason talk a lot more fun. Good luck Jeff--and do what is best for you and what you WANT TO DO!!
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Hoya06
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Post by Hoya06 on Jun 14, 2007 16:17:25 GMT -5
Well put RDF. I was thinking back to similar decisions I have had to make in the past, I do not envy Jeff's decision right now.
He could just make it really easy on himself and listen to us!
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sleepy
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Post by sleepy on Jun 14, 2007 16:22:33 GMT -5
yea i agree RDF i think he should do what he wants to do. The good thing is he realizes both would be good decisions for him, so i think that means hes doing what he wants. I just dont want him to be looking back a year from now or 5 years or even 10 years regretting the decision he made.
And does anyone remeber those Big East magazine booklet things they were handing out during the BET. Well i got one and during the tournament, i would ask the question out loud whether we would win the game, then i would open that book, and look for an omen about the what was going to happen. I did if for ever game but Ohio St. Anway, today i found it and i decided it wouldnt hurt to consult the BET book. I asked the question, and opened to a page with ewing walking out onto the court. Im taking it as a good omen, and now Jeffs an obvious lock to come back.
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Post by jackdog74 on Jun 14, 2007 17:10:33 GMT -5
I am now starting to think he's going to come back. First, you never lie to a prospective employer. Never, never, never. If an NBA exec has been told he's going back, he's going back. As for the player, the player knows that if he says Jeff is coming back, it hurts his stock. Jeff is one of his boys -- he's not going to say anything bad about one of his boys!! The player says, "Heck yeah Jeff is going!!! He can't wait." No skin off his back -- he's just talking to Andy Katz.
Anyway, I just hope Katz is right about the NBA exec being told he's staying in school. If that's so, I am having a major blowout at my house this evening.
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nathanhm
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Post by nathanhm on Jun 14, 2007 17:20:21 GMT -5
Just to play devil's advocate, if he's coming back why does it matter if his teammate hurts his stock? It seems to me there are people close to Jeff releasing information when they are not sure or they are taking there best guess.
I feel like he's coming back too however but I think going #5 or #6 would make him leave, that being said I don't see either the Celtics or the Bucks using there picks on Jeff. Fingers crossed.
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Post by RaleighHoya on Jun 14, 2007 17:43:33 GMT -5
To be like the tenth Devil's Advocate, has anyone thought that the NBA teams that are saying he is coming back are trying to get other teams not to go to DC and see him.
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Does anyone actually think that Jeff would hurt his own stock potentially by forcing teams to come and see him in DC and not fly around with better competition if he knew he was staying in the draft?
Oh no, just contradicted myself. I think I am going to stop reading these board until after the 18th or my head may explode. Also, no way will he sign with the Leafs. I heard he is Wizards or Rangers but there is an outside chance he plays 3b for the O's.
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EasyEd
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Post by EasyEd on Jun 14, 2007 18:22:09 GMT -5
A part of me wants Jeff to go. If he comes back, sure maybe we have a better chance of returning to the Final Four and a crack at the title. But, if he stays, think of the adjustments that would have to be made the following year when we would lose Jeff, Roy, Jon, PE2 and Tyler. If Jeff goes we have the opportunity to work Freeman and Macklin into the routine, along with others possibly. We might start the season not as good as with Jeff but, given time, may end up a better team. Who knows?
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RDF
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Post by RDF on Jun 14, 2007 18:24:24 GMT -5
To be like the tenth Devil's Advocate, has anyone thought that the NBA teams that are saying he is coming back are trying to get other teams not to go to DC and see him. OR Does anyone actually think that Jeff would hurt his own stock potentially by forcing teams to come and see him in DC and not fly around with better competition if he knew he was staying in the draft? Oh no, just contradicted myself. I think I am going to stop reading these board until after the 18th or my head may explode. Also, no way will he sign with the Leafs. I heard he is Wizards or Rangers but there is an outside chance he plays 3b for the O's. ;D at your last comments and understand completely. I think Jeff is honest--and when you are honest--you go back and forth--and when you think you might have your answer--then something else changes your mind--it happens to everyone but not in the same situation presented to him--what I think is cool is how he's committed to making the effort to get all the info, feedback, and more importantly time to make his final decision. If teams don't want to have to travel to watch him workout, then don't. It's also why there are so many bad organizations in the NBA, they would ignore a workout based on fact a kid doesn't want to travel all over and limit his options. As for the interviews--everyone has commented on what we already know-he's a great kid with high character and a wonderful basketball player--and then they add something along lines of "But--I'm not sure he doesn't want to return to school" or something along lines of fact he isn't ready to leave because he has championship aspirations. If anyone in their right mind downgrades a player for wanting to return to WIN--they should be fired. UF players returned and it helped Horford, Brewer, and Taurean Green's stock--Noah's might have dropped a bit--but he's got 2 rings and will be a first round pick--he will never have any doubts about that again--and he went out with the guys he came into school with--which is another thing Jeff might be thinking about. I think this whole process just makes me appreciate how far the program has come--we went from a great Hoya wanting to stay but leaving because of the uncertainty and chaos in program to a great player who has accomplished a goal of restoring the program, really deliberating on whether he should stay because he has some unfinished business he might want to tend to, that is in span of 4 years--UNREAL! The only certainties I can take from this whole offseason in regards to Jeff is: 1. He entered draft 2. Stayed in Draft--but hasn't hired an agent 3. He mentions how much he hates OSU being possibly his last Hoya game 4. Thinks about Hoyas winning National Title if he returns 5. NBA people are unsure whether he is really wanting to leave 3 of those 5 tell me that he might want to stay more then I thought initially and what we all thought--the other 2 are something I'd encourage anyone to do in his position, and no matter what happens, it's the type of people/program to be proud of--a great player is thinking about his teammates/coaches at Georgetown as much as his own future-to prolong this decision says it all--and it's not like he'd fall all the way to the bottom of Draft--he'll be a Lottery Pick--just a matter of what year that will be.
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sleepy
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Post by sleepy on Jun 14, 2007 19:59:36 GMT -5
When Jeff and Roy entered their names in the draft, didnt JTIII say something about them staying in it until June 18?If so than this probably shouldnt be that big of a surprise, i guess.
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Post by lichoya68 on Jun 14, 2007 21:59:38 GMT -5
THE LITTLE BIRDIE SAYS WHEN IN DOUBT STAY YUP 50-50 70-30 WHEN IN DOUBT STAY ......... JUST A LITTLE BIT LONGER REMEMBER NEW JERSEY REMEMBER THE ALAMO STAY DO WHAT IS BEST BUT REMEMBER THE RING AND THE ALAMO AND SPRINGTIME ON THE HILLTOP YOUR SENIOR YEAR YUP BEAT MEMPHIS WITH JEFF
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Post by StPetersburgHoya (Inactive) on Jun 14, 2007 22:09:08 GMT -5
I wasn't being a tool. I like to actually understand what people on here are saying and sentences that take up six lines are a bit tricky sometimes. Calm down there, buddy. No need to get riled up. William Faulkner thinks you are a wuss. That made my day. I think that someone should tell Jeff that if he's unsure and uneasy about going to the NBA he should wait a year until he'll be more comfortable with it.
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Post by Eurostar on Jun 14, 2007 23:24:33 GMT -5
A part of me wants Jeff to go. If he comes back, sure maybe we have a better chance of returning to the Final Four and a crack at the title. But, if he stays, think of the adjustments that would have to be made the following year when we would lose Jeff, Roy, Jon, PE2 and Tyler. If Jeff goes we have the opportunity to work Freeman and Macklin into the routine, along with others possibly. We might start the season not as good as with Jeff but, given time, may end up a better team. Who knows? ive been having this feeling too... then i just think to myself, what would be better: a national championship followed by a middle of the pack finish in the big east the next year, or two straight years of very good teams that probably dont make the final 4?
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HoyaNCCT
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Post by HoyaNCCT on Jun 14, 2007 23:36:22 GMT -5
From what I understand. Jeff is no longer taking summer classes and is slated to move out of his near campus housing at the end of the month...
That said, I hope I am wrong. C'mon Jeff...come back! Please!
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Post by hoyastrong on Jun 14, 2007 23:44:20 GMT -5
From what I understand. Jeff is no longer taking summer classes and is slated to move out of his near campus housing at the end of the month... That said, I hope I am wrong. C'mon Jeff...come back! Please! That's not good, looks like this could be it then
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Post by strummer8526 on Jun 14, 2007 23:48:12 GMT -5
Does anyone know what the team is typically expected to be doing over the summer? If he only took classes in the first summer session, those end in about 2 weeks, and so if he's not required to be living and working around campus, it may be that he's just taking some time away. I wouldn't be surprised if given all the stress of the last month or so, JTIII gives him some time off. And like I said, the classes thing could just depend on which session he had planned to take classes in.
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Post by hoyaLS05 on Jun 14, 2007 23:52:59 GMT -5
I think the guys have taken summer classes every summer since they were pre-frosh, so think of it this way:
If Jeff took 3 classes before freshman year, 8 as a frosh (4 each semester), 3 the summer before soph. year, 8 as a soph, 3 before jr year, 8 as a junior, and one during pre-session this summer, he's taken 34 classes. He needs 38 to graduate, so there is no need for him to take any more summer classes this summer. He can take two each semester next year (or as many as he needs to be eligible), and have more than enough classes, and presumably credits, to graduate.
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