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Post by chuck on May 27, 2007 10:58:16 GMT -5
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on May 27, 2007 11:53:03 GMT -5
good to hear braswell is returning to form.
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Post by chuck on May 27, 2007 12:19:04 GMT -5
At only 6'8, Braswell needs to develop his outside shot and ball handling skills.
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Post by chuck on May 27, 2007 12:32:00 GMT -5
I have never heard of this Hubbert kid. Do they mean Naji Hibbert?
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Post by RDF on May 27, 2007 13:19:44 GMT -5
I have never heard of this Hubbert kid. Do they mean Naji Hibbert? This was a poor job by the guy covering event. He meant Maurice Creek--but he was talking about Maurice Hubbard and Creek is from Oxon Hill--is a big time shooter and has Maryland and Georgetown near top of his list--but is more of a Terp lean. Braswell also has grown--his own coach said he's now 6'9 in a recent interview. |
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Post by EasyEd on May 27, 2007 13:46:15 GMT -5
I liked the comment about Braswell's passing ability.
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Post by chuck on May 27, 2007 14:31:48 GMT -5
I have never heard of this Hubbert kid. Do they mean Naji Hibbert? This was a poor job by the guy covering event. He meant Maurice Creek--but he was talking about Maurice Hubbard and Creek is from Oxon Hill--is a big time shooter and has Maryland and Georgetown near top of his list--but is more of a Terp lean. Braswell also has grown--his own coach said he's now 6'9 in a recent interview. Thanks |
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Post by MCIGuy on May 27, 2007 16:15:52 GMT -5
At only 6'8, Braswell needs to develop his outside shot and ball handling skills. Tell that to Carlos Boozer, Elton Brand, David West, etc. |
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Post by chuck on May 27, 2007 17:52:57 GMT -5
At only 6'8, Braswell needs to develop his outside shot and ball handling skills. Tell that to Carlos Boozer, Elton Brand, David West, etc.[/quore Are you comparing Braswell to those guys? |
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Post by MCIGuy on May 27, 2007 23:16:08 GMT -5
I can't honestly compare him to those guys just as you can't honestly sit around suggesting that he needs to develop an outside shot or ballhandling skills simply because you feel he isn't tall enough to be a true PF. or C. You're jumping the gun. Nonetheless though when you stop to consider there are 6'7 guys like Ben Wallace playing the five spot in the NBA, who is to say that the 6'8 to 6-9 Braswell does not have the capability to not only be a very good post player in college but also, if we must skip ahead, in the pros as well? Time will tell. I think Braswell has to concentrate more on keeping himself eligible in order for him to play a full season this time around.
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Post by chuck on May 28, 2007 0:10:32 GMT -5
I can't honestly compare him to those guys just as you can't honestly sit around suggesting that he needs to develop an outside shot or ballhandling skills simply because you feel he isn't tall enough to be a true PF. or C. You're jumping the gun. Nonetheless though when you stop to consider there are 6'7 guys like Ben Wallace playing the five spot in the NBA, who is to say that the 6'8 to 6-9 Braswell does not have the capability to not only be a very good post player in college but also, if we must skip ahead, in the pros as well? Time will tell. I think Braswell has to concentrate more on keeping himself eligible in order for him to play a full season this time around. I base my judgment off of the video I saw of him. He is very skilled for HS. However, he does not have the explosiveness (like a Boozer)to go over Bigs in college, nor does he have the wingspan like Brand to get his shot off on Bigs on a regular basis. It is always funny when people try to point out the exceptions rather than the rule. It is like when people always try and say when a QB gets drafted late(weak arm and slow), 'well Tom Brady was a 6th round pick'... I like the kid. Just because I'm pointing out some areas that he needs to work on doesn't mean I am proclaiming him a bust before he steps on campus. All he needs is a solid mid-range(10-15ft) jumper. It is no different than Macklin coming in. Vernon is a great athlete, but obviously he needed to work on his post skills and get stronger. There are not many finished products in HS. |
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Post by AvantGuardHoya on May 28, 2007 4:22:07 GMT -5
All he needs is a solid mid-range (10-15ft) jumper. It is no different than Macklin coming in. Vernon is a great athlete, but obviously he needed to work on his post skills and get stronger. There are not many finished products in HS. IMHO, there are no finished products coming out of HS! Every player has some aspect(s) to his game that has/have to be developed if they want to continue to succeed at the college level -- tho obviously some are more skilled than others. The same holds true when young men leave college to go on to the pros. Even Oden and Durant have to improve their games if they want to dominate in the play-for-pay game. BTW, while I understand that in our system he probably would play some at the C position, I thought we were recruiting Braswell to play the PF spot. Are you saying he needs more ball handling ability and mid-range game than, say, Sweetney did? Just askin'.... |
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Post by chuck on May 28, 2007 10:19:32 GMT -5
All he needs is a solid mid-range (10-15ft) jumper. It is no different than Macklin coming in. Vernon is a great athlete, but obviously he needed to work on his post skills and get stronger. There are not many finished products in HS. IMHO, there are no finished products coming out of HS! Every player has some aspect(s) to his game that have to be developed if they want to continue to succeed at the college level -- tho obviously some are more skilled than others. The same holds true when young men leave college to go on to the pros. Even Oden and Durant have to improve their games if they want to dominate in the play-for-pay game. BTW, while I understand that in our system he probably would play some at the C position, I thought we were recruiting Braswell to play the PF spot. Are you saying he needs more ball handling ability and mid-range game than, say, Sweetney did? Just askin'.... Good question. Braswell will be playing more of the PF position. Which will be a lot of high post pivot area. That is why a mid range jumper and some solid ball handling skills are important. Jeff is one of the best mid-range shooters in the country. He made a living in that foul line extended area( particularly against a zone). These are the skills that Braswell needs to work on. Now he is a great passer, so that will help. Sweets played in a different offense, so I would not apply their skill sets. |
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Post by RDF on May 28, 2007 10:53:47 GMT -5
What's interesting is that Sims has the jumpshot you want in the offense and Braswell has the post moves/drop step--Sims inside game is improving each time out and Braswell can make a 10/12 foot baseline jumper with regularity--he just needs to work on his foul line area game--both are good passers too.
You can cross Ed Davis off the list--he's eliminated Hoyas--as expected and I still don't think his game fits what Hoyas do offensively--we've got Macklin who is similar in terms of being a bouncy athlete around rim but doesn't possess face up game right now.
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Post by SirSaxa on May 28, 2007 12:07:58 GMT -5
What's interesting is that Sims has the jumpshot you want in the offense and Braswell has the post moves/drop step--Sims inside game is improving each time out and Braswell can make a 10/12 foot baseline jumper with regularity--he just needs to work on his foul line area game--both are good passers too. From the little I saw of Henry Sims on video, he looked more like a tall 3 or a skinny 4 than an inside player. Of course, he is really young and has another 18 months before he'll actually be on the court -- and at that age, 18 months can make a big difference. And 2 1/2 years before the start of his soph season. But even allowing for physical maturation, he didn't look like a Big East inside presence. He looked more like a Lee Scruggs than a Georgetown Center. OK, just video from HS, so I don't know. But I got the feeling we will be recruiting some serious size and strength inside... what I presume Mike Dunigan might be. Would these assumptions be accurate? |
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Post by chuck on May 28, 2007 16:44:02 GMT -5
What's interesting is that Sims has the jumpshot you want in the offense and Braswell has the post moves/drop step--Sims inside game is improving each time out and Braswell can make a 10/12 foot baseline jumper with regularity--he just needs to work on his foul line area game--both are good passers too. From the little I saw of Henry Sims on video, he looked more like a tall 3 or a skinny 4 than an inside player. Of course, he is really young and has another 18 months before he'll actually be on the court -- and at that age, 18 months can make a big difference. And 2 1/2 years before the start of his soph season. But even allowing for physical maturation, he didn't look like a Big East inside presence. He looked more like a Lee Scruggs than a Georgetown Center. OK, just video from HS, so I don't know. But I got the feeling we will be recruiting some serious size and strength inside... what I presume Mike Dunigan might be. Would these assumptions be accurate? Dunigan is not real bulky yet, but he is a tough rebounder and good athlete. He is getting better and better with his post game. You can liken him to his fav player Amare Stoudamire(poor mans version). Gillgrest and Goode would be the real bulk. Those boys have never missed a meal. |
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Post by MCIGuy on May 28, 2007 17:22:16 GMT -5
[It is always funny when people try to point out the exceptions rather than the rule. It is like when people always try and say when a QB gets drafted late(weak arm and slow), 'well Tom Brady was a 6th round pick'... Its even funnier when folks start griping about big men not being able to make jump shots or take people off the dribble. Main priority of a big man should be to play like a big man when the game is on the line. If Braswell can score inside and grab rebounds I'll take that for now. By the way when did Boozer become explosive? Seeing him play all those years in college and in the pros, the adjective explosive never came to mind. Not that it matters of course because Boozer is really good. But when I think of explosive I think of Amare or Chris Wilcox or a young Chris Webber. But not Boozer. |
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Post by idhoya on May 28, 2007 17:24:58 GMT -5
Don't forget Morgan too. Who is Gilgrest? I like Mike alot. A horse, who knows where he eats. He also is fiery on the court, while a nice guy off. How would you compare him Samardo? its a shame they didn't get to matchup this weekend. Woulda been a showdown. Prob not as skilled as Samuels offensively, but maybe quicker on the block.
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Post by chuck on May 28, 2007 17:30:15 GMT -5
[It is always funny when people try to point out the exceptions rather than the rule. It is like when people always try and say when a QB gets drafted late(weak arm and slow), 'well Tom Brady was a 6th round pick'... Its even funnier when folks start griping about big men not being able to make jump shots or take people off the dribble. Main priority of a big man should be to play like a big man when the game is on the line. If Braswell can score inside and grab rebounds I'll take that for now. By the way when did Boozer become explosive? Seeing him play all those years in college and in the pros, the adjective explosive never came to mind. Not that it matters of course because Boozer is really good. But when I think of explosive I think of Amare or Chris Wilcox or a young Chris Webber. But not Boozer. Well if you do not consider Boozer explosive, and Braswell is much less explosive than Boozer... |
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Post by chuck on May 28, 2007 17:37:39 GMT -5
Don't forget Morgan too. Who is Gilgrest? I like Mike alot. A horse, who knows where he eats. He also is fiery on the court, while a nice guy off. How would you compare him Samardo? its a shame they didn't get to matchup this weekend. Woulda been a showdown. Prob not as skilled as Samuels offensively, but maybe quicker on the block. I forgot about Morgan. I just assumed he was more or less a Big 12 kid. Most of those schools are all over him. Samuels is super strong. Dude is just a man child. With his frame, I do not know how much better Samuels will get, but Dunigan has much more upside(IMO). I am probable spelling Gus Gilgrest name wrong. Greenberg will not let him out of his schollie at VTech, so I guess he has decided to go to prep school. What I do not understand is if a kid transfers to another college he would have to sit out a year anyway. So Gus might aswell transfer to another college now and sit that year while he learns the system and develops. It is better to develop red shirting in college than playing prep ball. |
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