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Post by SFHoya99 on Jan 28, 2014 10:52:32 GMT -5
Does Markel have a shot at 25th? Probably not if we don't pull it together. But if we could make a bit of a run in the BET and a post-season tourney, maybe we could go from 12 or so games left to 16...
At which point he'd only have to average 15.6 ppg the rest of the way out. So if the team can turn it around...
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Post by TBird41 on Jan 28, 2014 13:52:08 GMT -5
Does Markel have a shot at 25th? Probably not if we don't pull it together. But if we could make a bit of a run in the BET and a post-season tourney, maybe we could go from 12 or so games left to 16... At which point he'd only have to average 15.6 ppg the rest of the way out. So if the team can turn it around... We're currently 7th in the Big East, so that would give us Butler currently, or whoever else finishes last. After that, we'd get the two seed (currently Creighton), so it doesn't seem that likely that we'll get more than two games in the BET.
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Post by hoyainspirit on Jan 30, 2014 11:47:10 GMT -5
We can do it!
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Post by TBird41 on Feb 3, 2014 13:20:51 GMT -5
After Michigan State:
Markel now has 1020 points. DSR has 637 points.
Markel is now 42nd all time in scoring--he passed Tom O'Keefe (1946-50), who had 1018 points and Perry McDonald (1984-88), who had 1019 points. Next up is Billy Lynn (1972-76) with 1,024 points.
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Post by bicentennial on Feb 3, 2014 20:14:03 GMT -5
Does anyone know? Appears Nate Lubick is now top 25 in both rebounds and assists but don't see those numbers on the history page!!!
Stats on the history site are generally updated at season's end.--Admin
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Post by TBird41 on Feb 3, 2014 23:49:47 GMT -5
After DePaul:
Markel now has 1046 points. DSR has 654 points.
Markel is now 39th all time in scoring--he passed Billy Lynn (1972-76), who had 1,024 points, Al Dutch (1975-80), who had 1,025 points and Joe Missett (1954-57), who had 1,030 points. Next up is my classmate Ashanti Cook (2002-06), who had 1,057 points.
Additionally, DSR has now scored more points in his first two years than Austin Freeman did and is on pace to crack the top 20 for points in a season and to challenge Greg Monroe for most points as a sophomore under JT3.
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Post by BeantownHoya on Feb 8, 2014 15:15:22 GMT -5
Not sure where else to ask this question but this seems like the best thread. What is the consecutive FT record for Gtown all-time? If I have this right, DSR was 8 for 8 today, 11 for 11 against Depaul, and I believe missed one against Michigan St. but not sure at what point during the game that was.
So I am guessing he is at least 20 in a row? I would have to think that is close to the record? Of course I am jinxing him with this post.
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Post by bicentennial on Feb 8, 2014 16:45:48 GMT -5
I found the Stats History site. If someone could check my math I would greatly appreciate the help. It appears Starks is now tied for 19th in career assists at 258, Lubick is also top 25 in assists with 240 and approaching top 25 in rebounds as well. He has 552 rebounds and needs 557 to tie for 25th. A Washington Post article this week pointed out only a handful of Georgetown players have 200 assists and 500 rebounds. Currently, only two other players are top 25 for Rebounds and Assists: Reggie Williams and Jeff Green!
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Post by tashoya on Feb 8, 2014 23:22:20 GMT -5
I found the Stats History site. If someone could check my math I would greatly appreciate the help. It appears Starks is now tied for 19th in career assists at 258, Lubick is also top 25 in assists with 240 and approaching top 25 in rebounds as well. He has 552 rebounds and needs 557 to tie for 25th. A Washington Post article this week pointed out only a handful of Georgetown players have 200 assists and 500 rebounds. Currently, only two other players are top 25 for Rebounds and Assists: Reggie Williams and Jeff Green! You realize Nate haters will just ignore that. I have a feeling that, in the coming years, the number of guys on that list will increase drastically. In any case, that says a lot about Nate's contribution to the teams that he's been on. Each of which, seemingly, have needed different things from him. Congrats to him. That's pretty nice company.
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Post by TBird41 on Feb 10, 2014 10:01:05 GMT -5
After Butler:
Markel now has 1065 points. DSR has 672 points.
Markel is now 38th all time in scoring--he passed classmate Ashanti Cook (2002-06), who had 1,057 points. Next up is Brian Sheehan (1958-61), who had 1070 points.
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Post by Ranch Dressing on Feb 10, 2014 15:42:40 GMT -5
I found the Stats History site. If someone could check my math I would greatly appreciate the help. It appears Starks is now tied for 19th in career assists at 258, Lubick is also top 25 in assists with 240 and approaching top 25 in rebounds as well. He has 552 rebounds and needs 557 to tie for 25th. A Washington Post article this week pointed out only a handful of Georgetown players have 200 assists and 500 rebounds. Currently, only two other players are top 25 for Rebounds and Assists: Reggie Williams and Jeff Green! You realize Nate haters will just ignore that. I have a feeling that, in the coming years, the number of guys on that list will increase drastically. In any case, that says a lot about Nate's contribution to the teams that he's been on. Each of which, seemingly, have needed different things from him. Congrats to him. That's pretty nice company. I think what this proves is that, in this age of players leaving after a year or two, if a player is mediocre enough to stay all 4 years and inexplicably log significant minutes, despite having only hit one shot outside 3 feet the entire season, even he can find himself compared within a meaningless statistical category along with Jeff Green and Reggie Williams. Well done.
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Post by tashoya on Feb 10, 2014 20:36:09 GMT -5
You realize Nate haters will just ignore that. I have a feeling that, in the coming years, the number of guys on that list will increase drastically. In any case, that says a lot about Nate's contribution to the teams that he's been on. Each of which, seemingly, have needed different things from him. Congrats to him. That's pretty nice company. I think what this proves is that, in this age of players leaving after a year or two, if a player is mediocre enough to stay all 4 years and inexplicably log significant minutes, despite having only hit one shot outside 3 feet the entire season, even he can find himself compared within a meaningless statistical category along with Jeff Green and Reggie Williams. Well done. Because Georgetown has had so many guys leave early?
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Post by HoyaChris on Feb 11, 2014 1:20:21 GMT -5
After Providence.
Markel moves up to #36 in career scoring with 1079 points, passing Brian Sheehan and Charlie Adrian. Next up is Bill Bolger with 1084 points.
DSR is up to 694 points, already 75th on the career scoring list. Barring injury or early departure, he is probably even money to pass Patrick Ewing for #2 on the Georgetown career scoring list.
In a rather amazing coincidence, Nate is #25 on all three of the career rebound list with 559, the career block list with 65, and the career assist list with 244. Nate is also 90th in scoring with 600 points.
Markel is 22nd on the assist list with 262.
Mikael is now #20 in career blocks with 86.
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Post by bicentennial on Feb 11, 2014 11:00:10 GMT -5
Thanks Hoya Chris, I knew someone could get these stats out there in a more definitive manner.
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Post by TBird41 on Feb 11, 2014 13:09:41 GMT -5
After Providence. DSR is up to 694 points, already 75th on the career scoring list. Barring injury or early departure, he is probably even money to pass Patrick Ewing for #2 on the Georgetown career scoring list. I thought I was going out on a limb by saying DSR would crack 2000 points. Second all time? That might be a stretch. My math might be off, but I think he'd have to score 600 points each of his last two seasons to pass Ewing, something that's only be done 11 times by a Hoya and which only Iverson and Sleepy have done more than once. Not to mention that it'll only get harder for him to put up those kind of points going forward, since there's going to be an infusion of talent next year and he won't need to shoulder the scoring burden quite so heavily.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Feb 11, 2014 13:22:34 GMT -5
The flip side is that with the infusion of talent next year, defenses will hopefully not be able to focus completely on DSR as they do now, which might give him better scoring opportunities. I agree that 600 points per season for his last two seasons would be a lot, and probably unlikely, but I do think DSR will continue to be the featured player in our offense, even if the freshman are ready from day one.
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Post by HoyaChris on Feb 11, 2014 14:46:30 GMT -5
After Providence. DSR is up to 694 points, already 75th on the career scoring list. Barring injury or early departure, he is probably even money to pass Patrick Ewing for #2 on the Georgetown career scoring list. I thought I was going out on a limb by saying DSR would crack 2000 points. Second all time? That might be a stretch. My math might be off, but I think he'd have to score 600 points each of his last two seasons to pass Ewing, something that's only be done 11 times by a Hoya and which only Iverson and Sleepy have done more than once. Not to mention that it'll only get harder for him to put up those kind of points going forward, since there's going to be an infusion of talent next year and he won't need to shoulder the scoring burden quite so heavily. DSR may well score 600 points this year!! If we assume four post season games between BET, NCAA or NIT, we will have played 34 games this year. At his current per game average of 17.1, that would translate to 581 points. 600 points does not feel like much of a stretch. Better teammates probably help more than they hurt. DSR is getting his 17.1 average on slighly over 11 shots per game. Given our offensive issues, we would all be happier if he was shooting more not less, but he has been overplayed by multiple defenders all year and he still does not take bad shots. With more offensive options he will get more single coverage and, probably more shots. The other impact of better players is more games in the postseason which means one can get to 600 with a lower per game average.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Feb 11, 2014 14:56:58 GMT -5
I also think that while we are getting a great freshman class in, we're also losing a 17 ppg scorer who takes a lot of shots. I don't know that our net scoring b/w the freshmen and Nate/Markel is actually going to be all that much of an increase (and who knows who else will be here? Smith? Moses? Aaron?).
Hopefully it will result in more efficient scoring as well, and I expect some shots may come from Mikael if there are better options on the floor.
If DSR loses shots next year, it will probably be a big mistake.
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Post by tashoya on Feb 11, 2014 15:45:22 GMT -5
I thought I was going out on a limb by saying DSR would crack 2000 points. Second all time? That might be a stretch. My math might be off, but I think he'd have to score 600 points each of his last two seasons to pass Ewing, something that's only be done 11 times by a Hoya and which only Iverson and Sleepy have done more than once. Not to mention that it'll only get harder for him to put up those kind of points going forward, since there's going to be an infusion of talent next year and he won't need to shoulder the scoring burden quite so heavily. DSR may well score 600 points this year!! If we assume four post season games between BET, NCAA or NIT, we will have played 34 games this year. At his current per game average of 17.1, that would translate to 581 points. 600 points does not feel like much of a stretch. Better teammates probably help more than they hurt. DSR is getting his 17.1 average on slighly over 11 shots per game. Given our offensive issues, we would all be happier if he was shooting more not less, but he has been overplayed by multiple defenders all year and he still does not take bad shots. With more offensive options he will get more single coverage and, probably more shots. The other impact of better players is more games in the postseason which means one can get to 600 with a lower per game average. Hopefully, he'll have quite a few more games than that this year and in the next two...
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Post by TBird41 on Feb 11, 2014 16:00:02 GMT -5
DSR may well score 600 points this year!! If we assume four post season games between BET, NCAA or NIT, we will have played 34 games this year. At his current per game average of 17.1, that would translate to 581 points. 600 points does not feel like much of a stretch. Better teammates probably help more than they hurt. DSR is getting his 17.1 average on slighly over 11 shots per game. Given our offensive issues, we would all be happier if he was shooting more not less, but he has been overplayed by multiple defenders all year and he still does not take bad shots. With more offensive options he will get more single coverage and, probably more shots. The other impact of better players is more games in the postseason which means one can get to 600 with a lower per game average. Hopefully, he'll have quite a few more games than that this year and in the next two... That games number might be the difference. At this point I refuse to count more than the minimum...stupid tournaments
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