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Post by jacko on Feb 15, 2007 4:15:15 GMT -5
I think everyone is saying 'Nova played better D than anyone we've seen since because we made them look better than any other team since. There's nothing I've seen from 'Nova to suggest to me they're any better creating turnovers in the full or half court than Marquette or WVU honestly. We just attacked and converted. To me Nova's D looked faster, more intense, and more hands-on than anyone else's. Combine those factors with the fact that we were completely taken out of our game by it - we weren't ready for it at that point. This will not be L'ville's or WVU's defense, but a more difficult challenge. How we respond to it this time around should be the best indication thus far this season of how GU can make game-to-game adjustments.
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Post by GIGAFAN99 on Feb 15, 2007 9:24:02 GMT -5
I think everyone is saying 'Nova played better D than anyone we've seen since because we made them look better than any other team since. There's nothing I've seen from 'Nova to suggest to me they're any better creating turnovers in the full or half court than Marquette or WVU honestly. We just attacked and converted. To me Nova's D looked faster, more intense, and more hands-on than anyone else's. Combine those factors with the fact that we were completely taken out of our game by it - we weren't ready for it at that point. This will not be L'ville's or WVU's defense, but a more difficult challenge. How we respond to it this time around should be the best indication thus far this season of how GU can make game-to-game adjustments. I don't know, I actually think the toughest defense of the three (Pomeroy be damned) is WVU. They're very tall and organized and they always have their hands up. 'Nova is more traditional in the sense that they get some steals from picking your pocket. But WVU actually makes it difficult to advance the ball. We can disagree on this. Either way, the Hoyas have to take care of the ball like they have recently.
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Post by Filo on Feb 15, 2007 10:15:35 GMT -5
To me Nova's D looked faster, more intense, and more hands-on than anyone else's. Combine those factors with the fact that we were completely taken out of our game by it - we weren't ready for it at that point. This will not be L'ville's or WVU's defense, but a more difficult challenge. How we respond to it this time around should be the best indication thus far this season of how GU can make game-to-game adjustments. I don't know, I actually think the toughest defense of the three (Pomeroy be damned) is WVU. They're very tall and organized and they always have their hands up. 'Nova is more traditional in the sense that they get some steals from picking your pocket. But WVU actually makes it difficult to advance the ball. We can disagree on this. Either way, the Hoyas have to take care of the ball like they have recently. Yeah, to each his own, but I agree with you. I think WVU's D is pretty tough -- they contest every pass and seem to get their hands (or feet) on tons of passes. 'Nova's D is solid, esp. in terms of disrupting the offense, but it does not seem to be as intense as WVU's.
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Post by KHoyaNYC on Feb 15, 2007 11:14:47 GMT -5
I basically agree Filo. I think Nova does the best job denying big men the ball, or having a team's big men get the ball out of position. I think WVU is a very good defensive team as well but not quite at the same level as Nova. I don't think Marquette is as good as kenpom says they are, but again I only have a small sample of games I've seen for comparison.
Putting all this jibber-jabber aside, we're a different and better team now. I look at it this way, we played horribly against nova in january and lost by 4. We play anywhere near how we've played the last momth and we should win this one by 6-10 points. If I had to guess, I'd say 68-61 or so.
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Post by FOTP on Feb 15, 2007 11:25:41 GMT -5
Villanova is to me the 3rd best team in the Big East and this game will be brutal. They had a tough start to the Big East season and tough schedule in general. However, don't let the 6-5 in the BE fool you. They are very good and good at home.
I think this is a legit Pick-em type game and we need our A game to win.
I like our rest and ability to learn from our mistakes last time.
We'll see. I think the hoyas win, but this will be very tough.
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Post by njcoach on Feb 15, 2007 12:06:01 GMT -5
I agree with FOTP but I'll go a little further. This is the kind of game you want/expect a top tier team to win. You are up against an unranked, yet dangerous and motivated, conference rival at their place. The atmosphere will be hostile and, oh by the way, they already beat you this year so they are confident. It's a gut-check character-builder that can vault the Hoyas higher. Here's hoping they play up to their capabilities.
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Feb 15, 2007 17:11:00 GMT -5
I also think we have a distorted view of villinova, marquettes and WV defense and overall abilit basedon the results against us. We see Nova as a great D because they stopped us where the others got creamed so we think they're not good.
I think Nova has a great D: see: Shutting down durrant. but i also think that if we play the way we have against our last tow opponents we'll smoke them in the same manner.
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Post by bostonhoyas on Feb 15, 2007 17:27:34 GMT -5
"Georgetown has the most efficient offense in the country, shooting over 60 percent inside the arc and rebounding offensive misses at a 41 percent rate, the seventh highest in the country. That all makes sense when you have the size of Roy Hibbert and Jeff Green anchoring the front line." -Fran Fraschilla sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=2766700
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Post by Boz on Feb 15, 2007 17:55:01 GMT -5
Is it just me or did everyone else on that list have something to say about Georgetown except Doug Gottlieb?
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(OK, OK, there were a couple others; don't let facts get in the way of my assault on Rat-Boy)
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Post by prhoya on Feb 15, 2007 18:10:09 GMT -5
More BE teams than ACC teams on average... So, which is the weakest conference? Didn't the "experts" have 8-9 teams going to the Tournament?
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Post by hoyaLS05 on Feb 15, 2007 23:37:45 GMT -5
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Post by hoyaboy1 on Feb 16, 2007 2:09:22 GMT -5
"Georgetown has the most efficient offense in the country, shooting over 60 percent inside the arc and rebounding offensive misses at a 41 percent rate, the seventh highest in the country. That all makes sense when you have the size of Roy Hibbert and Jeff Green anchoring the front line." -Fran Fraschilla sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=2766700Fran hearts Pomeroy.
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Post by hoyaLS05 on Feb 16, 2007 2:27:49 GMT -5
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Post by lichoya68 on Feb 16, 2007 6:44:21 GMT -5
ok novas d is probably the best tough quick to press and trap and more full court sooooooooo but whats different il be roy aint zero for zero for sure... roy and jeff are playing much better... the whole teams playing better and teams that tried to press us well we learned from the first nova game we learned and ill be we will do better vs. theri press.. we better do better if we play our a game like we been doing itll be tough but we can do it go roy go jeff go everybody beat nova BIG STATEMENT GAME AND PAYBACK KEEP THE TRAIN RUNNING GO HOAYS ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by Hoya50 on Feb 16, 2007 8:18:06 GMT -5
interesting article about reynolds. too bad egerson decided to split mid season instead of over the summer. would have been a nice bench addition.
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Post by HoyaNyr320 on Feb 16, 2007 10:07:51 GMT -5
I just checked out the pre-game report page. How come we are listed as "not ranked"?
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Post by tal1286 on Feb 16, 2007 10:21:00 GMT -5
I also think we have a distorted view of villinova, marquettes and WV defense and overall abilit basedon the results against us. We see Nova as a great D because they stopped us where the others got creamed so we think they're not good. I think Nova has a great D: see: Shutting down durrant. but i also think that if we play the way we have against our last tow opponents we'll smoke them in the same manner. I think the Texas v. Nova game was the one right after Texas's 3OT game with OSU. I'm pretty sure that played a significant role in it. In fact, that was pretty much all the announcers talked about for the entire game, that Durant must be tired after playing 3 OTs.
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Post by AustinHoya03 on Feb 16, 2007 10:38:23 GMT -5
I think the Texas v. Nova game was the one right after Texas's 3OT game with OSU. I'm pretty sure that played a significant role in it. In fact, that was pretty much all the announcers talked about for the entire game, that Durant must be tired after playing 3 OTs. Durant had three days to rest between OSU and 'Nova. Besides, I don't think he fatigues much -- he had a double-double at Nebraska just three days after the 'Horns loss at 'Nova. Even if you concede fatigue was a factor in Durant's game, I don't think it fully explains him scoring 13 points under his season average of 25 ppg. I for one am more willing to credit the Wildcats D for stopping Durant than reasons given by the ESPN talking heads.
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Post by tal1286 on Feb 16, 2007 10:51:49 GMT -5
I think the Texas v. Nova game was the one right after Texas's 3OT game with OSU. I'm pretty sure that played a significant role in it. In fact, that was pretty much all the announcers talked about for the entire game, that Durant must be tired after playing 3 OTs. Durant had three days to rest between OSU and 'Nova. Besides, I don't think he fatigues much -- he had a double-double at Nebraska just three days after the 'Horns loss at 'Nova. Even if you concede fatigue was a factor in Durant's game, I don't think it fully explains him scoring 13 points under his season average of 25 ppg. I for one am more willing to credit the Wildcats D for stopping Durant than reasons given by the ESPN talking heads. I'm not trying to take the credit away from Nova but when I watched the end of the game it seemed like Durant was really tired. I mean...I only have seen him play a few times so I'm not schooled in Durant, I guess, but he seemed tired anyway.
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Post by Dhall on Feb 16, 2007 12:39:19 GMT -5
Suinpter only played 16 minutes and Sheridan and Cunningham were also in big foul trouble the whole game the first time. We still lost. Those guys are good and tough matchups for our front court because they are strong and quick though not quite as big. I fear they will stay out of foul trouble and be receiving dishes for dunks and layups from Reynolds all day. This game should be a lot more high scoring unless the refs call it tight again.
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