DaJuan reminds me of

[TBird41]

dajuan said:

While I appreciate the compliment, I have no idea who Bill Martin is. Sounds like an old white guy.

Not quite--He was in Ewing's class:

www.hoyabasketball.com/features/top100/b_martin.htm

[TrueHoyaBlue]

Another sign of Dajuan's improvement...

Out-of-Conference: 4 Assists / 29 Turnovers
versus BIG EAST: 16 Assists / 10 Turnovers

[OldHoyafan]

Summers is progressing quite nicely, especially with his passing.
The feed to Roy after flashing to the freethrow line was tough.
Jeff can hit that shot from the top of the key against a zone designed to surround Roy, but often is reluctant to do so because of his unselfishness. DaJuan can hit that shot 9 out of 10 times. This will cause the defense to have to pick their poison. A wide open 10 footer for Dajuan or a 3 foot hook by Roy.

[FrazierFanatic]

dajuan said:

While I appreciate the compliment, I have no idea who Bill Martin is. Sounds like an old white guy.
Personally, I like to think of myself as a cross between Scottie Pippen and Gilbert Arenas. I bring the defensive intensity of Pipp, and the confidence of Arenas.

Ya need to hit the books and learn the Hoya history, D!!

[HoyaChris]

I'm not sure that I concur with the Reggie Williams comparison - Reggie had immense court presence from the moment he stepped on to the court at G-Town. At similar points in their career, Reggie was a better passer, a better mid-range shooter, and a much better dribbler. This does not mean that DaJaun can't get there - I have immense respect for his game - but the comparison feels premature.

DaJuan has the same set as the Bill Martin as a freshman, except that he seems much more confident and aggressive. Their skills sets are incredibly similar

[AvantGuardHoya]

Don’t see Billy Martin in Dajuan at all. Totally different games. Martin was a 6’7’’ player who really could only play as a power forward. He didn’t have Summers’ ball handling skills or shooting range. Dajuan’s a 6’9” “small” forward with a good perimeter game that will only improve. To me, his development is one of the keys to the team’s prospects for this season.

[bubbrubbhoya]

dajuan said:

While I appreciate the compliment, I have no idea who Bill Martin is. Sounds like an old white guy.
Personally, I like to think of myself as a cross between Scottie Pippen and Gilbert Arenas. I bring the defensive intensity of Pipp, and the confidence of Arenas.

HIBACHI!

tbird41 said:

dajuan said:

While I appreciate the compliment, I have no idea who Bill Martin is. Sounds like an old white guy.

Not quite--He was in Ewing's class:

www.hoyabasketball.com/features/top100/b_martin.htm

Wait...are you saying that isn't old? They finished up over 1/5 of Hoya basketball history ago, hombre...that counts as old in basketball world.

[idhoya]

I wouldn't say no one has a 3 that can match up. Corey Brewer is pretty good at UF. No more an inside player than Summers.

[ExcitableBoy]

bubbrubbhoya said:

dajuan said:

While I appreciate the compliment, I have no idea who Bill Martin is. Sounds like an old white guy.
Personally, I like to think of myself as a cross between Scottie Pippen and Gilbert Arenas. I bring the defensive intensity of Pipp, and the confidence of Arenas.

HIBACHI!

tbird41 said:

Not quite--He was in Ewing's class:

www.hoyabasketball.com/features/top100/b_martin.htm

Wait...are you saying that isn't old? They finished up over 1/5 of Hoya basketball history ago, hombre...that counts as old in basketball world.

I'm don't know if it was the "old" part of the description that Tbird was referring to...

[miracles87]

I'll tell ya who Dajuan reminds me of, he reminds of me the most important intangible this current Hoyas team possesses, thats who...

...um...yea!!

Sure, the comparisons to Reggie and Billy are reasonable, though especially difficult due to the different philosophies of the JTs. For example, it would be easy for me to say that both Reggie and Billy were better defensively, especially Reggie as a frosh, however, Dajuan isn't asked to play ball hawking, don't worry if your man gets past you because Godzilla (AND Ultraman, on occasion) is roaming the middle kinda D. That said, boy, Reggie anticipated a pass better than any Hoya in my 30+ years of Hoya watching.

Dajuan and Pat are huge for the Hoyas this year. When Egerson left, they were instantly thrust into playing major minutes for a championship caliber squad. As last night showed, they are progressing nicely, and I am very confident in both. Someone hit it on the head about Summers, in that he reminds me of Green. Not surprising, given their close relationship and playing similar roles. I believe if this team fulfills its potential, which at the very least is losing to a great team playing their best AND getting some bs twisting hernia inducing prayers answered at the end of the game (AND perhaps their best interior player being allowed to climb Roy's back like an eco-tourist at the Matterhorn, yea, I'm talking about you spaz boy, get a haircut), it will be because of Dajuan doing his thing, which is in fact somewhat Billy like, Reggie like AND Jeff like, but in (hopefully) four years, will be immediately identifiable as Dajuan like...

This post was motivated by RDF, who got me awfully aroused with his posts.

Go Hoyas!!!!

[SaxaCD]

hoyachris said:

I'm not sure that I concur with the Reggie Williams comparison - Reggie had immense court presence from the moment he stepped on to the court at G-Town. At similar points in their career, Reggie was a better passer, a better mid-range shooter, and a much better dribbler. This does not mean that DaJaun can't get there - I have immense respect for his game - but the comparison feels premature.

DaJuan has the same set as the Bill Martin as a freshman, except that he seems much more confident and aggressive. Their skills sets are incredibly similar

I can't agree here -- Reggie looked lost a lot of times, especially on defense, for most of the first half of his freshman season. He really picked it up late, and then turned into the player we knew he would be by tourney time. I'd say at similar points in their careers, passing is about even, defense is about even, Reggie was a better rebounder and dribbler, but Dajuan is the better midrange shooter (I don't think Summers will be able to match Reggie's quick development on that last point, but Reggie only showed flashes by this point in his first season, as I recall).

I think Dajuan's skill set is different from Martin's -- Martin was a skinny power forward with a good nose for rebounds and silky midrange jumper; Dajuan so far to me looks like a rangy "3" with excellent long range and a much quicker (though flatter) release, and he certainly looks more confident handling the ball.

[HoyaChris]

saxacd85 said:

hoyachris said:

I'm not sure that I concur with the Reggie Williams comparison - Reggie had immense court presence from the moment he stepped on to the court at G-Town. At similar points in their career, Reggie was a better passer, a better mid-range shooter, and a much better dribbler. This does not mean that DaJaun can't get there - I have immense respect for his game - but the comparison feels premature.

DaJuan has the same set as the Bill Martin as a freshman, except that he seems much more confident and aggressive. Their skills sets are incredibly similar

I can't agree here -- Reggie looked lost a lot of times, especially on defense, for most of the first half of his freshman season. He really picked it up late, and then turned into the player we knew he would be by tourney time. I'd say at similar points in their careers, passing is about even, defense is about even, Reggie was a better rebounder and dribbler, but Dajuan is the better midrange shooter (I don't think Summers will be able to match Reggie's quick development on that last point, but Reggie only showed flashes by this point in his first season, as I recall).

I think Dajuan's skill set is different from Martin's -- Martin was a skinny power forward with a good nose for rebounds and silky midrange jumper; Dajuan so far to me looks like a rangy "3" with excellent long range and a much quicker (though flatter) release, and he certainly looks more confident handling the ball.

I disagree about a couple of your Reggie comments. Reggie as a senior in High School got 30-40% of his points on mid-range jumpers. I still remember the Eastern Basketball article that talked about a "machine gun-like succession of pull up jumpers." He just didn't take them much as a freshman because he didn't need to shoot much. Secondly, Reggie was a much better passer. He finished his freshman year with 83 assists in what are likely to be fewer minutes than DaJuan. Even with his improved pace, DaJuan is on track for 40-45, in an offense that is much more passing oriented.

Finally, Billy Martin had three point range. Without a three point line, why shoot from 18 when you can shoot from 12?

I agree about the defense - both looked lost early