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Post by HoyaDestroya on May 26, 2004 9:32:17 GMT -5
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Post by TrueHoyaBlue on May 26, 2004 9:57:02 GMT -5
Any chance we'll see an addition of an Ivy to this year's schedule (Hopefully Princeton or Penn)? Or is it a safe bet that 3 won't be comfortable risking a loss to the Ancient Eight in his first year of big east play?
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Post by TrueHoyaBlue on May 26, 2004 10:02:44 GMT -5
Actually, that article makes the addition of Albany a little more bearable...
a) It says that they're looking to schedule the game between Dec. 10th and 18th. As GU always uses this (final exam) time for cupcakes at home, hopefully this means that Albany is taking up a "designated" cupcake spot.
b) The Albany AD says that they are in the process of determining whether to hold the game at MCI or McD. This seems to imply that Georgetown has gained some more maneuverability in its contract with MCI, which would be great for moving some of the lesser games onto campus.
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Post by HoyaLawya on May 26, 2004 14:02:37 GMT -5
If Georgetown wants to go IVY with an opponent, may I heartily recommend CORNELL?? Seriously. Have been reading up a little bit more about the team since my nephew is going to play for them starting this coming season. (And this is not a HoyaRon "crazy relationship with TB" kinda deal. This is a legit relative.)
They've managed to sign two players that show up in some national rankings (Khaliq Gant and Shawn Oliverson a 6'11" 250 player out of Preston, Idaho).
This could be their year to challenge the usual Penn & Princeton dominance of the league.
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Post by TrueHoyaBlue on May 27, 2004 9:59:56 GMT -5
My only request is that we play teams that are likely to have winning records in their conference, hopefully very strong in-conference records. As has been stated on the board before, the most important factor in determining our RPI is not our opponents' RPIs, but their winning percentages (as this counts for 50% of our RPI rating).
Following the logic of the formula, it's much better to play an Detroit (19-11, RPI 110) a Monmouth (21-11, RPI 116), a Princeton (19-7, RPI 121), or a Fairfield (19-11, RPI 125), than it is to play, as we have, a Temple (15-13, RPI 100), or especially a Penn State (9-19, RPI 189).
While Penn State's strength of schedule, and the strength of the Big Ten in general, kept them out of 200+ RPI range, they were in fact one of the biggest drains on our RPI because of their terrible overall win pct.... well that and all the games we lost, but that's a topic for a different thread.
To recap, our schedule should strive to play the cream of the Colonial, the Southern, the MAAC, the Patriot, the Ivies, and yes, even the MEAC, as the almost guaranteed winning records of those teams will provide a huge boost to our RPI, and most of the games should still be pretty winnable.
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Post by hoyalove4ever on May 27, 2004 10:04:47 GMT -5
GMU would be a great addition to the schedule, although it would certainly be a dangerous game that we could easily lose. I wouldn't even mind a home-and-home with them, although they would likely agree to play us at MCI. The same applies for GW. Let's see what happens.
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Post by TrueHoyaBlue on May 27, 2004 10:35:59 GMT -5
Definitely agree on the value of both games, especially the Mason game (largely because of the value of their high win percentage)...
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Post by Hoya50 on May 27, 2004 10:46:44 GMT -5
i'm actually excited about scheduling albany state. for those of you that don't know, albany state is a suny (state university of new york) school. being a graduate of suny oswego, i'm excited that the chances of the hoyas playing my alma mater just increased greately (even if oswego is a d3 school).
heck, maybe the hoyas can schedule suny schools like they scheudle meac schools.
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Post by Bahstin on May 27, 2004 11:35:12 GMT -5
My only request is that we play teams that are likely to have winning records in their conference, hopefully very strong in-conference records. As has been stated on the board before, the most important factor in determining our RPI is not our opponents' RPIs, but their winning percentages (as this counts for 50% of our RPI rating). THB makes a really good point. Albany State was 17-10 last year. Without knowing our opponants record and their opponants record, I would guess that it was have been favorable to a team's RPI to play Albany State last year rather than Gtown. When looking at a potential opponant for RPI purposes, the opponants winning % is a more important factor than their RPI. The Albany State addition is much much better than their 300+ RPI indicates.
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Post by DFW HOYA on May 27, 2004 18:34:32 GMT -5
Albany State was 17-10 last year. Division II Albany State (Georgia) was 17-10. However, Division I Albany was 5-23.
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Post by TrueHoyaBlue on May 28, 2004 8:07:43 GMT -5
I was wondering about that 17-10 record. I wasn't using my "statement of scheduling preferences" as justification for scheduling Albany (which I think is a bad idea, unless it's replacing all of our MEACs), more of just the strategy I think we should go for.
That said, I'm sure that many of the schools that fit this profile command higher guarantee prices, so the trade-off between finances and RPI will require a larger overall scheduling strategy, which I hope to see articulated soon.
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Post by DaneFan2k3 on Jun 4, 2004 15:46:31 GMT -5
Over on our board, someone linked here to talk about the addition of UAlbany to your schedule, so I thought I'd chime in.
We're not Albany State, but it's easy to make that mistake.
UAlbany should be "good" next season, although I don't know that we'll get out of the mid-200's in terms of RPI. Let's say we'll be much improved. We have had the last two America East Rookies of the Year, and one of them (Jamar Wilson), who won the award two years ago, missed all of last season with an injury after being our leading scorer. So we were severely undermanned.
Add to that an all-MAAC transfer from Loyola in Lucious Jordan, as well as a 7-foot transfer from Boston College and we will have many more weapons at our disposal when we come down to the nation's capital.
I'm not saying we're going to beat G-Town, but I think many UAlbany fans (at least at this point) expect a competitive game. That 300-level RPI fools people sometimes.
As for III's scheduling for you, try to remember that it's almost impossible to predict where teams will end up at year's end or even when you play them. Looking at our track record, for example, you'd expect us to end up in the 300's again, but I can almost guarantee, barring some catastrophe, that we won't be in that range again.
Whereas a team like Monmouth, which someone pointed out would be better at the high 200's range, could easily fall into the mid-to-late 200's. At our level, the low-to-mid-major level, that is, it's all about injuries and getting a few balls to bounce certain ways.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Jun 4, 2004 15:56:00 GMT -5
Over on our board, someone linked here to talk about the addition of UAlbany to your schedule, so I thought I'd chime in. We're not Albany State, but it's easy to make that mistake. UAlbany should be "good" next season, although I don't know that we'll get out of the mid-200's in terms of RPI. Let's say we'll be much improved. We have had the last two America East Rookies of the Year, and one of them (Jamar Wilson), who won the award two years ago, missed all of last season with an injury after being our leading scorer. So we were severely undermanned. Add to that an all-MAAC transfer from Loyola in Lucious Jordan, as well as a 7-foot transfer from Boston College and we will have many more weapons at our disposal when we come down to the nation's capital. I'm not saying we're going to beat G-Town, but I think many UAlbany fans (at least at this point) expect a competitive game. That 300-level RPI fools people sometimes. As for III's scheduling for you, try to remember that it's almost impossible to predict where teams will end up at year's end or even when you play them. Looking at our track record, for example, you'd expect us to end up in the 300's again, but I can almost guarantee, barring some catastrophe, that we won't be in that range again. Whereas a team like Monmouth, which someone pointed out would be better at the high 200's range, could easily fall into the mid-to-late 200's. At our level, the low-to-mid-major level, that is, it's all about injuries and getting a few balls to bounce certain ways. DaneFan, nice to hear from you. Nice to hear your team will be better, and it may be a competitive game. I have really no idea. We usually have one or two supcake games that are close at half, but even this year, we never really struggled with the cupcakes. I don't know where your team talent really is, bu don't be disappointed if the athleticism is just too much. It happens. James Madison folks were really excited to play us (2 years ago?) and we beat them handily. As an internet fan base, they were pretty down. Then again, we'll be learning a new complicated offense, starting probably two freshman, so ya never know. I don't think anyone is made about Albany, per se, it is just that our schedule sucks. It's awful. It's eight easy wins, a few mediocre games and mockery by analysts. We were hoping 3 would make a splash. Announcing Albany as a game doesn't do much for us.
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Post by YB on Jun 4, 2004 16:01:37 GMT -5
Again, folks, the schedule is NO WHERE NEAR what 3 would like our scheudle to be- next year's is locked in, essentially.
Judge him on how it looks in 2 years, just like you have to judge him on how recruiting etc looks. Also remember, he's been on the job 2 months- not much time to make such a splash.
Albany helps us fill out our slate, not much more than that. I like that we're looking to fill it out with the better low-majors instead of the worst of the worst.
Again, tho, judge the sched on what happens 2 years from now....
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