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Post by FrazierFanatic on Mar 20, 2024 9:47:46 GMT -5
This is going to be a rebuild through HS recruiting. Constant recycling of transfer portal players can't be the answer. 85-90% of college players will never make money playing ball after college. So they need to make all they can during their 4 years. Coaches will never be able to count on having a kid for more than a year at the time, so unless you can get big time freshman contributors, or have enough $$ to outbid other schools for your own players, you can't count on high school recruiting as your business model. |
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Post by TC on Mar 20, 2024 9:48:05 GMT -5
I also don't understand the potential PT concerns. Who did he think was coming in to definitively take away all of his time? Don't give me recruiting class rankings and recruit stars and whatever. We've been down that road before plenty of times and a good number of these kids never panned out or lived up to the billing. Really not happy that the default reaction to any challenge in PT is to pack up and run. How about get better during the offseason and earn the minutes? I think we need to wait to see what happens to understand the PT concerns. If you bring in Mintz? He'd definitely be right to be worried. |
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Post by thedragon on Mar 20, 2024 9:49:11 GMT -5
This is going to be a rebuild through HS recruiting. Constant recycling of transfer portal players can't be the answer. 85-90% of college players will never make money playing ball after college. So they need to make all they can during their 4 years. Coaches will never be able to count on having a kid for more than a year at the time, so unless you can get big time freshman contributors, or have enough $$ to outbid other schools for your own players, you can't count on high school recruiting as your business model. Thus why I also expect Sorber to get 20 minutes a game. |
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Mar 20, 2024 9:50:15 GMT -5
Cooley told Rowan they are looking to bring in a PG through the portal. Rowan decided to leave. Pretty simple.
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Post by thedragon on Mar 20, 2024 9:53:26 GMT -5
Fwiw from Trilly Donovan "Heard there's going to be a few more from Georgetown". That's scary.
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Post by RockawayHoya on Mar 20, 2024 9:54:16 GMT -5
I also don't understand the potential PT concerns. Who did he think was coming in to definitively take away all of his time? Don't give me recruiting class rankings and recruit stars and whatever. We've been down that road before plenty of times and a good number of these kids never panned out or lived up to the billing. Really not happy that the default reaction to any challenge in PT is to pack up and run. How about get better during the offseason and earn the minutes? I think we need to wait to see what happens to understand the PT concerns. If you bring in Mintz? He'd definitely be right to be worried. That's certainly fair as an example where he'd clearly have been over-recruited, but Mintz isn't even here yet. Will be interesting to see where he ends up. We weren't any good, but I don't think he's finding a better situation than maybe being a top 3-4 option at a mid/low major somewhere if PT is the primary concern. |
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Post by SSHoya on Mar 20, 2024 9:55:05 GMT -5
This new world of college basketball is testing my resolve to remain a college basketball fan. Every year is unrestricted free agency. Amen. You can't root for players any more, you just root for the jersey. What I loved about college ball was watching a kid actually develop and get better - Hibbert, Sims as examples. Kids you can cheer for. Now, it seems so mercenary. I understand the players deserve NIL money but it sure makes it harder to develop attachment to a team and its players. |
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Post by royski on Mar 20, 2024 9:55:21 GMT -5
This is going to be a rebuild through HS recruiting. Constant recycling of transfer portal players can't be the answer. 85-90% of college players will never make money playing ball after college. So they need to make all they can during their 4 years. Coaches will never be able to count on having a kid for more than a year at the time, so unless you can get big time freshman contributors, or have enough $$ to outbid other schools for your own players, you can't count on high school recruiting as your business model. The sport needs to bring back and enforce a 1 year redshirt for transfers. It's destroying college basketball and it's doing so very quickly. |
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Post by skunk on Mar 20, 2024 9:57:14 GMT -5
Fwiw from Trilly Donovan "Heard there's going to be a few more from Georgetown". That's scary. One is Ryan. I gotta imagine Epps and fielders stay. Not sure on cook or styles. Maybe of those 2 leave |
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Mar 20, 2024 9:57:28 GMT -5
85-90% of college players will never make money playing ball after college. So they need to make all they can during their 4 years. Coaches will never be able to count on having a kid for more than a year at the time, so unless you can get big time freshman contributors, or have enough $$ to outbid other schools for your own players, you can't count on high school recruiting as your business model. The sport needs to bring back and enforce a 1 year redshirt for transfers. It's destroying college basketball and it's doing so very quickly. Very clearly something needs to change. The current system stinks. Unrestricted free agency every off season just isn't a viable path forward for the sport. |
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Post by EtomicB on Mar 20, 2024 10:00:43 GMT -5
This is going to be a rebuild through HS recruiting. Constant recycling of transfer portal players can't be the answer. 85-90% of college players will never make money playing ball after college. So they need to make all they can during their 4 years. Coaches will never be able to count on having a kid for more than a year at the time, so unless you can get big time freshman contributors, or have enough $$ to outbid other schools for your own players, you can't count on high school recruiting as your business model. How has Marquette done so well in that regard? It has to be an approach you believe in, IMHO... |
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Post by njhoya78 on Mar 20, 2024 10:01:11 GMT -5
Disappointed by the news on Rowan Brumbaugh. I'd hoped the revolving door to which we became accustomed under the prior coaching staff would change.
I must be naive.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Mar 20, 2024 10:01:41 GMT -5
I am so invested in Georgetown basketball that I am hanging on. But there's a really good chance if it stays like this that I don't for long. I have little interest in semi-pro ball with one year contracts and constantly changing rosters. Watching a team grow and develop together was always the best part of being a college basketball fan. And that seems to likely be gone forever. |
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Post by hoyariv71 on Mar 20, 2024 10:02:56 GMT -5
My guess, Epps,Fielder and Styles are back
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Post by thedragon on Mar 20, 2024 10:05:53 GMT -5
My guess, Epps,Fielder and Styles are back I hope you're right but I'll take Epps, Styles and Cook as my guess. But again, I'd prefer your 3. |
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Post by SFHoya99 on Mar 20, 2024 10:06:28 GMT -5
Lmao. Rowan was not a high major PG. If that wasn't obvious I don't know what to tell you. I'd be much more disappointed if Fielder left This is how I feel. It wouldn't have been next year. I think he realized he was gonna get a bunch of time cut and decided to leave. I think Rowan could positively contribute to a high major team, and a better one than us. There's a lot to like about his game, and I think some of the weaknesses can be shored up. I agree with those who say that given how our team performed, it's hard to be too upset about any individual player going ... but I really don't think we can have 1-2 returning players and be all that functional next year. I'm not sure you can have that good a transfer season coming off last year to start from scratch. I think with a bit of shot improvement, bit of handle improvement, he could have played a real role. Not starting on a good team, really, but decent minutes. I wonder if this is a PT move or an NIL move. I sincerely hope it's not a team atmosphere move. |
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Post by hoopsmccan on Mar 20, 2024 10:06:50 GMT -5
Disappointed by the news on Rowan Brumbaugh. I'd hoped the revolving door to which we became accustomed under the prior coaching staff would change. I must be naive. Other than better post-loss press conferences and sound bites, hard to see that anything has changed from the prior staff. hm |
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Post by SFHoya99 on Mar 20, 2024 10:08:21 GMT -5
Fwiw from Trilly Donovan "Heard there's going to be a few more from Georgetown". That's scary. One is Ryan. I gotta imagine Epps and fielders stay. Not sure on cook or styles. Maybe of those 2 leave Styles is the only other guy I want to stay. If we can't upgrade on Cook in the portal, we're screwed anyway. We simply can't go another season with other teams shooting 70% in the paint. With Rowan (and Bristol) gone, keeping Fielder - Epps - Styles is pretty much all I want. |
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Post by CTHoya08 on Mar 20, 2024 10:11:40 GMT -5
85-90% of college players will never make money playing ball after college. So they need to make all they can during their 4 years. Coaches will never be able to count on having a kid for more than a year at the time, so unless you can get big time freshman contributors, or have enough $$ to outbid other schools for your own players, you can't count on high school recruiting as your business model. The sport needs to bring back and enforce a 1 year redshirt for transfers. It's destroying college basketball and it's doing so very quickly. I've said this before and I agree wholeheartedly. NIL alone isn't the problem. The players should be compensated, and better above the table than below. But having every player be a free agent every year is just insane. It was bad enough dropping the requirement for first-time transfers, but now it's open season even for second-time transfers? Pure chaos. |
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Post by ColumbiaHeightsHoya on Mar 20, 2024 10:12:36 GMT -5
Disappointed by the news on Rowan Brumbaugh. I'd hoped the revolving door to which we became accustomed under the prior coaching staff would change. I must be naive. What was the damn point if you were going to lose a guy like Rowan this year?!? Why did I sit through that? Cook/Mutombo I get. Guys who are seasoned and probably capped out I get. But Rowan is on the upswing. I'm like others that if the sport keeps trending this way (and Georgetown in particular), then I'll still tune it but I don't think I can keep buying season tickets. I'm cheering for the Georgetown brand, not the player who pops in for a year and then leaves. If this is a one off, so be it. If this continues the trend from prior years, I'll go cheer on real pros without the veil of education. |
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