CTHoya08
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Post by CTHoya08 on Aug 22, 2023 13:21:44 GMT -5
All things being equal, ESPN would undoubtedly mean more exposure. I've been at bars/restaurants during the day where every TV has been tuned to ESPN, merely showing some stupid talking-head show (on mute!) rather than to an actual, ongoing sporting event on CBS or FOX. People really have been conditioned to assume that ESPN = Sports, and vice versa.
But the "all things being equal" here is key. If an ESPN deal means streaming and a FOX deal means real TV, I think the FOX deal would be preferable. I do think there's real value in being able to find the game from your actual TV, and to flip back and forth between games, compared to having to pull it up on streaming.
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Bigs"R"Us
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Aug 22, 2023 14:32:13 GMT -5
All things being equal, ESPN would undoubtedly mean more exposure. I've been at bars/restaurants during the day where every TV has been tuned to ESPN, merely showing some stupid talking-head show (on mute!) rather than to an actual, ongoing sporting event on CBS or FOX. People really have been conditioned to assume that ESPN = Sports, and vice versa. But the "all things being equal" here is key. If an ESPN deal means streaming and a FOX deal means real TV, I think the FOX deal would be preferable. I do think there's real value in being able to find the game from your actual TV, and to flip back and forth between games, compared to having to pull it up on streaming. Agree, hate streaming and can only purchase so much content.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Aug 22, 2023 19:08:14 GMT -5
All things being equal, ESPN would undoubtedly mean more exposure. I've been at bars/restaurants during the day where every TV has been tuned to ESPN, merely showing some stupid talking-head show (on mute!) rather than to an actual, ongoing sporting event on CBS or FOX. People really have been conditioned to assume that ESPN = Sports, and vice versa. But the "all things being equal" here is key. If an ESPN deal means streaming and a FOX deal means real TV, I think the FOX deal would be preferable. I do think there's real value in being able to find the game from your actual TV, and to flip back and forth between games, compared to having to pull it up on streaming. This is definitely true. The problem with streaming is that unless a person is seeking out the game (like all of us), it is unlikely anybody will randomly watch the game or flip it on. In contrast, people do that with ESPN and Fox Sports 1 all the time. I realize linear TV is in decline and will continue to decline, but for now, the most eyeballs are available on broadcast/cable, not streaming.* * Note that this is actually mostly true across the board. While getting viewership stats for streaming can be challenging, if not wholly unavailable, even some poorly rated shows on cable TV or network TV still get way more viewership than most streaming shows. The future certainly seems to be in streaming, but for now if you want as many people as possible to watch your product, cable or network television is the way to go. This is especially true for sports.
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EasyEd
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Post by EasyEd on Aug 22, 2023 19:45:23 GMT -5
I subscribe to streaming YouTube TV for about $80 a month. It has all the channels Georgetown will air on, including Fox, FS1, FS2, CBS Sports Network, NBC Sports Network, plus ESPN, ESPN2, ESPNU, and ESPN News. Can cancel anytime you wish.
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Post by 104pleasant on Aug 22, 2023 20:05:24 GMT -5
Do you watch other Big East games when Georgetown is not playing?
I tend to watch Big East basketball games pretty much every night a game is played.
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Post by professorhoya on Aug 22, 2023 20:23:38 GMT -5
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DFW HOYA
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Post by DFW HOYA on Aug 22, 2023 21:01:25 GMT -5
ESPN/Disney hoodwinked the ACC into a bad TV deal while also orchestrating the aCC raid of the Big East. And all that has led to the ACC imploding and becoming a 2nd tier football conference. Not sure why you would want to make a deal with Disney/ESPN. The ACC deal with ESPN was a competitive one... for the time. Three things have changed: 1. The Big 10 and SEC deals are multi-network and multi-platform. While the ACC is locked into ESPN (and by extension, some coverage on ABC), the Big 10 has struck deals across six platforms (Fox, FS1, Big Ten Network, CBS, NBC, and Peacock) that give the B10 great options on linear versus streaming content; by contrast, ESPN is moving more ACC content to ESPN+ or the seldom-seen ACC Network (42 million, or about half the ESPN subscriber base). 2. The ACC didn't see the growth curve on rights deal escalate as it did. The Big 12 deal blew it out of the water, and also was one with multiple partners (ESPN and Fox)--it also indirectly led to the Pac-12 implosion as that league no longer had media partners available to support a similar-sized agreement. The grant of rights doesn't allow (nor would ESPN ever permit) the ACC to negotiate with Fox or NBC for a pro rata rights increase. 3. The obvious change is that the Big 10 and SEC have competitively moved ahead of everyone else. Florida State and Miami combined for four BCS title appearances prior to 2013; since then, none. An SEC team has appeared in every CFP final since 2015, and while Clemson got two titles during the last decade, it didn't translate to more viewers for the ACC as a whole. This is what has Florida State in panic--there are no more than six or seven legitimate contenders to a title and with the lower TV rights and diminished bowl opportunities, FSU cannot be in that upper tier currently enjoyed by Georgia, Alabama, LSU, Ohio State, Michigan, and on a good day, USC and Notre Dame. Suddenly, FSU is now in a tier with schools with more resources to join that upper tier: Texas, Oklahoma, Tennessee, Penn State, Florida, Oregon and Texas A&M. In Premier League terms, FSU has become Everton.
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HoyaChris
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Post by HoyaChris on Aug 22, 2023 22:33:47 GMT -5
As I read through DFW's latest post I found myself in fierce agreement with his thoughts.
Then came this, "In Premier League terms, FSU has become Everton." As an Everton fanatic I was deeply offended but also in complete agreement.
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DFW HOYA
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Post by DFW HOYA on Aug 22, 2023 22:40:18 GMT -5
As I read through DFW's latest post I found myself in fierce agreement with his thoughts. Then came this, "In Premier League terms, FSU has become Everton." As an Everton fanatic I was deeply offended but also in complete agreement. No offense intended! The Premier League has become an arms race and sadly, so has major college football.
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Bigs"R"Us
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Aug 23, 2023 1:16:45 GMT -5
As I read through DFW's latest post I found myself in fierce agreement with his thoughts. Then came this, "In Premier League terms, FSU has become Everton." As an Everton fanatic I was deeply offended but also in complete agreement. No offense intended! The Premier League has become an arms race and sadly, so has major college football. The ACC is guaranteed to implode. FSU wants out and probably Clemson and several others. Ticking time bomb.
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kghoya
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Post by kghoya on Aug 23, 2023 2:12:34 GMT -5
No offense intended! The Premier League has become an arms race and sadly, so has major college football. The ACC is guaranteed to implode. FSU wants out and probably Clemson and several others. Ticking time bomb. FSU wants out but there's a problem. No one wants them.
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