conshyhoya
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Post by conshyhoya on Oct 27, 2022 10:38:19 GMT -5
Everything sounded fine yesterday other than this. It really seems like Q is going to come back in and play his same role. That will be helpful against teams he can overmatch. It raises the floor and limits the ceiling. Also didn't he leave speciically because he didn't want to play that style? Maybe his year in CP taught him that moving away from the basket isn't in his skill set. He didn't look good in the attempts I saw last year and he lost playing time to Reese who was better away from the basket and is still there. He had way more success here so if he has any chance of playing pro somewhere he knows he will get more run here than most Power 5 teams.
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hoyainla
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Post by hoyainla on Oct 27, 2022 10:42:44 GMT -5
Ewing opening up tells us that we're paying $4M+/year for a guy who now admits he can't coach defense capably - and had to hire a retread coming from an NCAA scandal-plagued program to teach defense. Also, the Harris and Heath news, while illuminating, also gives Ronny Thompson/Ewing the first of what will likely be many excuses when it comes to this year's performance. That said, it's likely a very good thing for this year's team if Spears ends up the primary point guard playing 25+ mpg. I am not trying to make excuses before the season even starts, but if Dante is not available this year that will be a significant loss. From everything that we have been hearing it sounded like Spears was ahead in the race to be the starting point guard so it is not a case of losing a starter, but having good depth at that position is really important. We saw that last year when Dante played way too many minutes and seemed to be playing hurt and tired way too often. If Dante is not available, then I would expect to see more minutes from Denver so they don't run Spears into the ground by playing him too many minutes. The waiver for Heath is a big deal, because it certainly seems like he was expected to add a significant amount of scoring to the squad this year. I am surprised they don't have any clarity on this at this point and hopefully the worst case scenario is that he has to wait until second semester to play in games. It would be a big loss for the team, but the staff recruited him knowing he needed a waiver so they should have known what they were getting into and planned accordingly. I hope he is available to start the season for the Hoyas. Losing Dante isn't that big of a deal and would lead to more playing time for Denver which is a good thing. Losing Heath would hurt more but even that is getting overblown. Losing Harris and Heath might not even be the end of the world depending on how good Mozzone actually is but we would need to stay healthy at guard if that was the case.
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Post by hoyainla on Oct 27, 2022 10:44:19 GMT -5
Everything sounded fine yesterday other than this. It really seems like Q is going to come back in and play his same role. That will be helpful against teams he can overmatch. It raises the floor and limits the ceiling. Also didn't he leave speciically because he didn't want to play that style? Maybe his year in CP taught him that moving away from the basket isn't in his skill set. He didn't look good in the attempts I saw last year and he lost playing time to Reese who was better away from the basket and is still there. He had way more success here so if he has any chance of playing pro somewhere he knows he will get more run here than most Power 5 teams. Playing that role is certainly better for him but is it better for the team is my worry. Do we not all remember how much he bogged down the offense?
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Post by 78HOYA78 on Oct 27, 2022 11:01:25 GMT -5
To protect non-moble bigs play zone - simple. We are to slow for pick and roll defense and maybe Akok can give us good defensive rotation if the coaches insist on man to man.
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Post by conshyhoya on Oct 27, 2022 11:30:06 GMT -5
Maybe his year in CP taught him that moving away from the basket isn't in his skill set. He didn't look good in the attempts I saw last year and he lost playing time to Reese who was better away from the basket and is still there. He had way more success here so if he has any chance of playing pro somewhere he knows he will get more run here than most Power 5 teams. Playing that role is certainly better for him but is it better for the team is my worry. Do we not all remember how much he bogged down the offense? I agree. The coaches need to put him in spots that he can be successful. In BE there are quite of few teams were he can be very successful and hopefully something changes on D and they know how and when to use him.
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hoyaboya
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Post by hoyaboya on Oct 27, 2022 11:31:57 GMT -5
Playing that role is certainly better for him but is it better for the team is my worry. Do we not all remember how much he bogged down the offense? I agree. The coaches need to put him in spots that he can be successful. In BE there are quite of few teams were he can be very successful and hopefully something changes on D and they know how and when to use him. What centers in the Big East do you think Wahab matches up well against defensively? I will give you Manny Bates.
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Post by daveg023 on Oct 27, 2022 11:36:34 GMT -5
While I'm still on the side of the skeptics thinking that this coaching staff is going to turn it around suddenly, I do have to say there does seem to be a tangible difference this offseason.
Will it be too little, too late? Will it lead to more wins? I am not sure, but I will concede it feels like there is a least a slightly different approach as it relates to social media, Ewing's comments, shaking up the staff, etc.
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Post by conshyhoya on Oct 27, 2022 12:08:06 GMT -5
I agree. The coaches need to put him in spots that he can be successful. In BE there are quite of few teams were he can be very successful and hopefully something changes on D and they know how and when to use him. What centers in the Big East do you think Wahab matches up well against defensively? I will give you Manny Bates. Soriano. Bates. Sanogo although I wouldn't say he will be successful against him but more than anyone else on our roster unless someone like Bradley proves he can play. Ryan K but kind of the same basket as Sanogo. Ongenda. Even Nunge although he went outside a lot more once he got to Xavier but not nearly as mobile as someone like Jabari is. Seton Hall, Providence and Marquette should be small ball all the way unless something is changed drastically with defensive philosophy.
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Post by hoyazeke on Oct 27, 2022 13:21:46 GMT -5
I agree. The coaches need to put him in spots that he can be successful. In BE there are quite of few teams were he can be very successful and hopefully something changes on D and they know how and when to use him. What centers in the Big East do you think Wahab matches up well against defensively? I will give you Manny Bates. Bates, Soriano, Kalk, and Sanogo are the only 4 that I could think of that don't shoot much out of the paint. Until I see otherwise Kalk is still a paint guy no matter what McD says.
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Post by trotters10 on Oct 27, 2022 13:32:04 GMT -5
What centers in the Big East do you think Wahab matches up well against defensively? I will give you Manny Bates. Bates, Soriano, Kalk, and Sanogo are the only 4 that I could think of that don't shoot much out of the paint. Until I see otherwise Kalk is still a paint guy no matter what McD says. I would add the DePaul center as well --- Nick Ongenda I believe? I don't recall him having any outside skills. Jack Nunge as well, although he's got a little more skill outside the basket than the others, but he mostly scores from post-ups. He's got some good moves, he'll test Wahab's mobility.
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Post by conshyhoya on Oct 27, 2022 14:21:36 GMT -5
Bates, Soriano, Kalk, and Sanogo are the only 4 that I could think of that don't shoot much out of the paint. Until I see otherwise Kalk is still a paint guy no matter what McD says. I would add the DePaul center as well --- Nick Ongenda I believe? I don't recall him having any outside skills. Jack Nunge as well, although he's got a little more skill outside the basket than the others, but he mostly scores from post-ups. He's got some good moves, he'll test Wahab's mobility. Ongenda hasn't attempted a 3 his entire college career. You named pretty much everyone I thought as well. 6 out of 10 teams. I forgot Nova in my original answer. They are another team he won't be very useful against. Dixon is way to quick but if I remember correctly Tim or Ryan played well against him in a game last year so maybe he would hold his own.
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Post by hoyaboya on Oct 27, 2022 14:26:46 GMT -5
Bates, Soriano, Kalk, and Sanogo are the only 4 that I could think of that don't shoot much out of the paint. Until I see otherwise Kalk is still a paint guy no matter what McD says. I would add the DePaul center as well --- Nick Ongenda I believe? I don't recall him having any outside skills. Jack Nunge as well, although he's got a little more skill outside the basket than the others, but he mostly scores from post-ups. He's got some good moves, he'll test Wahab's mobility. Nunge shot 2.7 threes per game last season. I don't think there's any way Wahab is able to guard him on the perimeter. As for Kalkbrenner: "Creighton’s Ryan Kalkbrenner (13.1 points, 7.7 rebounds, 2.6 blocks) is the reigning Big East Defensive Player of the Year, but his coach believes that the 7-1 center may add a new wrinkle at the other end of the floor. “He’s shooting threes in practice and I would expect that he’ll continue to shoot them once we start playing games,” Creighton head coach Greg McDermott said this week on the College Hoops Today Podcast. “You will see it,” McDermott said in reference to Kalkbrenner’s outside shooting ability. “He’s worked really hard at it. Obviously, he aspires to play in the NBA and I think he will play in the NBA. 10 years ago, there were three guys like him on every NBA roster — now there’s one. He has to be able to do some different things.” collegehoopstoday.com/index.php/rothstein-files/creightons-ryan-kalkbrenner-ready-to-expand-his-range/UCONN, Butler and DePaul should be decent matchups defensively for Wahab, though Sanogo will probably be too quick for Q in the lane. Soriano doesn't get a ton of minutes for St. John's, I'd expect them to go small against us and get Wahab chasing people out at the three-point line.
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