Thinking about 2022-2023 line-ups

[jwp91]

I am starting a new thread because I refuse to open most of the other threads which have become cess pools.

THis thread only considers players committed to the Hoyas next year.

I've been watching highlights of both Anglin and BM shooting off of screens. Both those guys on the court would give a defense a lot to think about. If you put Anglin on the same side of the floor as Mutombo as you tried to feed the post, Anglin's man certainly wouldn't double team.

Holloway combined with those guys could help keep the defense honest

Three great outside shooters like Anglin, Holloway, and Murray would open up the floor for Dante to drive and find his elbow jumper that he likes so much.

I could see a little damage being done by...

Harris
Anglin
Murray
Holloway
Mutombo

Do we need more talent? Yes, but I am beginning to see some possibilities.

[Bigs"R"Us]

Murray is the only lock for a starting position if the staff does its job.

[nychoya3]

I think it’s basically anyone’s guess at this point. I hope Ryan has progressed enough that he’s a clear starter.

[pioneeer]

Good Morning to all! Happy Easter!!

I truly feel your possibilities! Impressive!
Please allow me to add Anglin, Bass, and of course Riley. They have talent that I believe will propel the team to another level!

[Deleted]

Apr 17, 2022 10:25:06 GMT -5 Bigs"R"Us said:

Murray is the only lock for a starting position if the staff does its job.

This seems right to me. Any of the other four COULD start, but I wouldn't want to be starting all four (or close to that). That'd mean a big whiff for the remainder of the transfer season.

[daveg023]

Apr 17, 2022 10:56:21 GMT -5 @nychoya94 said:

Apr 17, 2022 10:25:06 GMT -5 Bigs"R"Us said:

Murray is the only lock for a starting position if the staff does its job.

This seems right to me. Any of the other four COULD start, but I wouldn't want to be starting all four (or close to that). That'd mean a big whiff for the remainder of the transfer season.

Agree. If that’s our starting lineup it’s not all that different than last year. Not sure we’d be that much more competitive other than the fact the league might not be as talented next year.

[bills]

Apr 17, 2022 10:02:43 GMT -5 jwp91 said:

I am starting a new thread because I refuse to open most of the other threads which have become cess pools.

THis thread only considers players committed to the Hoyas next year.

I've been watching highlights of both Anglin and BM shooting off of screens. Both those guys on the court would give a defense a lot to think about. If you put Anglin on the same side of the floor as Mutombo as you tried to feed the post, Anglin's man certainly wouldn't double team.

Holloway combined with those guys could help keep the defense honest

Three great outside shooters like Anglin, Holloway, and Murray would open up the floor for Dante to drive and find his elbow jumper that he likes so much.

I could see a little damage being done by...

Harris
Anglin
Murray
Holloway
Mutombo

Do we need more talent? Yes, but I am beginning to see some possibilities.

If you are selling tickets for the pool on when this thread gets hijacked into the cesspool, I would like to buy 3 PM today.😂

i don’t think Wayne Bristol is getting the attention he deserves.  At 6’6” he is physically a junior but has 3 years of eligibility sine he did not play the last two seasons.  Was MEAC Rookie of the year in 2019-20 shooting 40% from 3 pt range and 79.4% from the line.  Not only had a solid year of playing D1 but also practiced with the team 2nd semester learning his teammates and our sets.  (That sentence is likely to be a trigger for cesspool responses about transfers and lack of coaching, but talking about the weather is likely to get those same responses.). I think Bristol will give us some very good minutes at the wing position.

[daveg023]

Apr 17, 2022 11:36:59 GMT -5 bills said:

Apr 17, 2022 10:02:43 GMT -5 jwp91 said:

I am starting a new thread because I refuse to open most of the other threads which have become cess pools.

THis thread only considers players committed to the Hoyas next year.

I've been watching highlights of both Anglin and BM shooting off of screens. Both those guys on the court would give a defense a lot to think about. If you put Anglin on the same side of the floor as Mutombo as you tried to feed the post, Anglin's man certainly wouldn't double team.

Holloway combined with those guys could help keep the defense honest

Three great outside shooters like Anglin, Holloway, and Murray would open up the floor for Dante to drive and find his elbow jumper that he likes so much.

I could see a little damage being done by...

Harris
Anglin
Murray
Holloway
Mutombo

Do we need more talent? Yes, but I am beginning to see some possibilities.

If you are selling tickets for the pool on when this thread gets hijacked into the cesspool, I would like to buy 3 PM today.😂

i don’t think Wayne Bristol is getting the attention he deserves.  At 6’6” he is physically a junior but has 3 years of eligibility sine he did not play the last two seasons.  Was MEAC Rookie of the year in 2019-20 shooting 40% from 3 pt range and 79.4% from the line.  Not only had a solid year of playing D1 but also practiced with the team 2nd semester learning his teammates and our sets.  (That sentence is likely to be a trigger for cesspool responses about transfers and lack of coaching, but talking about the weather is likely to get those same responses.). I think Bristol will give us some very good minutes at the wing position.

Admittedly I keep forgetting about Bristol too. I also think he will be a bigger contributor than we think…

[hoyaguy]

I really want to see Bristol in action as he’s basically replacing Carey which is a tall task but I can see it happening and then some

[hoyainla]

Since we have in theory 3 spots left to fill speculating now is probably futile. If we say based on the players not I would think it would be Harris, Murray, Bristol, Holloway, Mutombo. Based on who we are interested in on transfers it sounds like we are looking for a starting PG and C. I agree that as we stand we aren't that much different than last year even if our record would be better. I do think upgrading the PG, PF and C with those last 3 spots could make all the difference. Based on last year those are all good backup level players.

[bills]

If Dante stays the biggest need is at PF. Holloway would be a solid backup and Anglin can learn the position at the D1 level if we have a solid Big East level PF. In my opinion, that was our biggest hole last year.

I also think it is reasonable to see a significant improvement from Holloway and Mutombo based on what they learned with the playing time they had this year. They will not be the same players they were this year.

[Retro_hoya]

There’s a thread (on page one, no less) that is “2022-23 Roster and Line Ups” and it hasn’t yet devolved… good convo in this one though, maybe the mods can merge them?

[hoyaroc]

Bristol and Riley will have a lot to say about the upcoming starting lineup. They are my dark horses on this team.

[hoyainla]

Apr 17, 2022 12:16:29 GMT -5 bills said:

If Dante stays the biggest need is at PF. Holloway would be a solid backup and Anglin can learn the position at the D1 level if we have a solid Big East level PF. In my opinion, that was our biggest hole last year.

I also think it is reasonable to see a significant improvement from Holloway and Mutombo based on what they learned with the playing time they had this year. They will not be the same players they were this year.

Dante has been pretty rough for two years now and that is obviously the most important position on any team. If I could only upgrade one spot it would be point guard. It's possible Anglin is a better point than I am giving him credit for right now. I think he will be the perfect backup at point if we need it and can play SG. If our only two options next year are Dante and Denver I could see Denver eventually taking the job. I do think Mutombo could make a big jump but we do need an athletic big of some sort for defensive purposes. A 6'9 type guy that can be our starting PF but can play center if we need to go small or teams start PnR us to death would be perfect. Holloway is kind of what he is unless he somehow gets more athletic next year so not sure he makes more than an expected rise.

[Bigs"R"Us]

Apr 17, 2022 13:52:57 GMT -5 hoyaroc said:

Bristol and Riley will have a lot to say about the upcoming starting lineup. They are my dark horses on this team.

Bristol has a good chance at starting. Riley is a real unknown due to lack of playing time and injury.

[jwp91]

Apr 17, 2022 11:36:59 GMT -5 bills said:

Apr 17, 2022 10:02:43 GMT -5 jwp91 said:

I am starting a new thread because I refuse to open most of the other threads which have become cess pools.

THis thread only considers players committed to the Hoyas next year.

I've been watching highlights of both Anglin and BM shooting off of screens. Both those guys on the court would give a defense a lot to think about. If you put Anglin on the same side of the floor as Mutombo as you tried to feed the post, Anglin's man certainly wouldn't double team.

Holloway combined with those guys could help keep the defense honest

Three great outside shooters like Anglin, Holloway, and Murray would open up the floor for Dante to drive and find his elbow jumper that he likes so much.

I could see a little damage being done by...

Harris
Anglin
Murray
Holloway
Mutombo

Do we need more talent? Yes, but I am beginning to see some possibilities.

If you are selling tickets for the pool on when this thread gets hijacked into the cesspool, I would like to buy 3 PM today.😂

i don’t think Wayne Bristol is getting the attention he deserves.  At 6’6” he is physically a junior but has 3 years of eligibility sine he did not play the last two seasons.  Was MEAC Rookie of the year in 2019-20 shooting 40% from 3 pt range and 79.4% from the line.  Not only had a solid year of playing D1 but also practiced with the team 2nd semester learning his teammates and our sets.  (That sentence is likely to be a trigger for cesspool responses about transfers and lack of coaching, but talking about the weather is likely to get those same responses.). I think Bristol will give us some very good minutes at the wing position.

I think you make a reasonable point about Bristol. I just haven't seen him play to understand how he fits.

[RBHoya]

At this exact moment:

1. Harris
2. Murray
3. Bristol
4. Holloway
5. Mutombo

6. Riley
7. Anglin
8. Wilson
9. Bass


However, you hope that the transfers out are done--or at least that any additional ones come from guys who feel distinctly recruited over--and that the new staff may be able to land a couple more BE starter-caliber players. Something like this is would be a "realistic" dream scenario based on the chatter and who we've been noted as reaching out to:

1. Jahmir Young
2. Murray
3. Aminu
4. Akok
5. Bates

6. Holloway
7. Harris (Or if he decides he does not want to be moved to the bench, perhaps SRD transfer who has played ~4 seasons and can be a steady backup at the BE level. May swap him with Anglin on this chart if that happens)
8. Riley
9. Bristol
10. Anglin
11. Mutombo
12. Bass
13. Wilson


If it came together, that team is good enough to win the league. Granted, I am not counting my chickens, it requires 3 more huge hits from the portal plus Aminu deciding he needs another year to improve his stock. But, there are some contingency plans (ie. the kid from Niagara or the kid from Detroit Mercy as nice fallbacks for Young) that could still hit.

A ton left to shake out.

[hoyaboya]

Apr 17, 2022 13:52:57 GMT -5 hoyaroc said:

Bristol and Riley will have a lot to say about the upcoming starting lineup. They are my dark horses on this team.

Marcus Hammond, the 6-foot-3 Niagara transfer originally from Queens, had an “awesome” visit to Georgetown over the weekend and will next trip to Rutgers early this week, with visits to Notre Dame and Kansas State also planned.

“The trip went totally awesome,” said Cardozo coach Ron Naclerio, Hammond’s high school coach who spoke with Georgetown assistants by phone. “He and his family loved it.”

Georgetown has already added LSU transfer Brandon Murray, a shooting guard, and believes Hammond, a point guard who averaged 18.1 points, 4.7 rebounds and 2.9 assists as a senior, would complement Murray in the backcourt.

“They would form one of the best backcourts in the country,” Naclerio said of Georgetown’s message.

www.zagsblog.com/2022/04/18/niagara-transfer-marcus-hammond-has-awesome-georgetown-visit-rutgers-notre-dame-k-state-up-next/

[hoyasaxa2003]

It is hard for me to assess our team as a unit yet given so much uncertainty about the exact roster composition, but I have the following thoughts:

- Obviously, Brandon Murrays starts, and I imagine he gets big minutes. He doesn't foul much at all, and so he can basically stay on the court as much as stamina allows. I expect he'd play as much as Aminu did this past year (though Aminu was a bit more foul prone than Murray), if not more.

- Since the day he signed, I've been really excited about Anglin joining the team. With the caveat that I haven't seen him play a day in uniform, his high school shooting stats are really impressive, and that's something that often carries over. While he is on the shorter/smaller side for a guard, I think he can have big impacts in a positive way. One of my criticisms of Ewing's recruiting strategy has been stressing athleticism over shooting skill, but Anglin definitely checks all the boxes on shooting. I am excited to have him join.

- If Bristol's shooting carries forward from MEAC, he will be very valuable. Even if the guy could just continue to drop 41.7% from three, he'd be useful on that alone. Obviously, MEAC competition is much different from the Big East, but Bristol has very good height for a shooter, and so the increased size in the Big East shouldn't be too much of a problem. Also, for what it's worth, even in Howard's OOC that year, he shot 39.5% (while not playing great teams, Howard's OOC did have Notre Dame in the top 100, and a bunch of teams in the 100-200 range), so that's also encouraging.

If these three guys can shoot, we are going to have decent offensive weapons. I am not sure where they are going to fit as far as starting, etc., but if Anglin and Bristol can shoot well, I'd expect both to get decent minutes. Bristol probably more so, since he's already been in college, and probably more mature, but I think both have potential.

[prhoya]

I like Collin’s impression a lot:

Add Murray who is supposed to be a good defender and we might have a new look on defense. Now let’s get a new front court.