SirSaxa
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Post by SirSaxa on Jul 26, 2005 14:22:39 GMT -5
Does anybody have a sense as to how long JTIII plans on being here? Is he using this as a springboard to another college program? Some high profile ACC or Big East school? Make his mark by bringing us back to the top and then move on to another program? I hope not. JT3 came "home" to take this job. He isn't going anywhere. And when he gets GU back to the top, our profile will be as great as any. In addition, Pops is more involved than he has been in years. this is a family operation. AS long as the Admin doesn't screw it up, JT3 will be here a very long time. I am sure that with the help of some wealthy alumni, and an ever bigger shoe deal from Nike, JT3 will be very well compensated. maybe not the absolute top of the hoop coaches, but certainly very comfortably. GU kept Pops around for what.. 26 years? something like that. I am sure we will keep JT3 around too. He has no incentive to leave to a "higher profile" program. Where would that be? DUke? UNC? UK? KU? UCLA? Certainly not another BE program. I just don't see that happening. Not that other programs won't want him. They will. But he is worth more to GU and GU to him, than any other program.
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SFHoya99
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Post by SFHoya99 on Jul 26, 2005 14:25:28 GMT -5
The only situations where I can see III leaving for another bball job:
1) The NBA calls. 2) The Big East splits and he feels that the New New Big East hurts him enough to say it isn;t the top level. 3) He doesn't think the admin is committed. 4) He gets burned out, quits basketball completely, but eventually comes back with another team.
Honestly, most of the top schools in basketball are "Family" jobs these days, and I don't see III, even if successful, as a front runner for most. I suppose he could jump for big money from Big State Uiniversity, but I'd like to think we'd find a way to compensate him.
His quote, I believe, when coming on was that this was the only program for which he would've left Princeton. Feelings change, but III seems like a guy who values loyalty and building something with his own hands.
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1227
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Post by 1227 on Jul 26, 2005 14:27:22 GMT -5
Isn't it nice to be talking about ways to keep a coach rather than ways to get rid of one?? What a difference!
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SFHoya99
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Post by SFHoya99 on Jul 26, 2005 14:29:16 GMT -5
Yeah, the fact that we can even consider that someday III might jump to the NBA or that a UNC or Kentucky might be interested speaks a lot to our confidence in him if nothing else!
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Post by JohnJacquesLayup on Jul 26, 2005 14:38:10 GMT -5
Yeah, the fact that we can even consider that someday III might jump to the NBA or that a UNC or Kentucky might be interested speaks a lot to our confidence in him if nothing else! While I have great confidence in his coaching and recruiting, I think we're getting a little too excited here. He's got 8 BE wins (with hopefully MANY more coming.)
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2005 14:46:18 GMT -5
Yeah, the fact that we can even consider that someday III might jump to the NBA or that a UNC or Kentucky might be interested speaks a lot to our confidence in him if nothing else! First, I don't see III ever coaching in the NBA. He's a college guy through-and-through. He's seen how miserably college-to-pros coaches have fared, he's not going to go down that road. Second, I don't see him lateralling either. WHen was the last time you saw a coach leave one BIG name school for another? Outside of Roy Williams (who did so for alma mater reasons), I can't think of anybody. For III to be considered by a UNC or Kentucky would assume he's met with enormous success at G'Town. If that's the case, then going from GU to UNC or KU is a lateral move, not a step up. And like I said, when's the last time you saw one of those? That being said, if the Big East dissolves and GU falls into some "second-tier" conference, then I could see III - or anyone for that matter - leaving for greener pastures, more exposure, bigger bucks, etc.
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SFHoya99
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Post by SFHoya99 on Jul 26, 2005 14:47:15 GMT -5
True, but as dose would say, looking at how he got the eight wins, at the process rather than the results, I can see big things.
Then again, in college sports, things change quickly. Just ask Louis Orr.
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Post by Filthyhoya on Jul 26, 2005 14:49:44 GMT -5
Bill Self
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aggypryd
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Post by aggypryd on Jul 26, 2005 14:51:21 GMT -5
you beat me to it... but some would say that Kansas is a step up from Illinois... not me...but some would say...
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Post by Filthyhoya on Jul 26, 2005 14:51:44 GMT -5
Ben Howland
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2005 14:59:22 GMT -5
I would say Kansas is a step up from Illinois at the time. I would also say UCLA is a step up from Pitt... or most anywhere, for that matter. We're talking one of the most storied programs in NCAA history.
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Post by Filthyhoya on Jul 26, 2005 15:15:09 GMT -5
At the time Pitt was doing a hell of alot better than UCLA. UCLA was not a step up from PITT when Howland left.
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Post by 1227 on Jul 26, 2005 15:19:38 GMT -5
UCLA will always be a step up from Pitt - always and forever.
I don't think one can look at a program's current status only. Using that as a gauge, was GU (bottom feeding Big East team) a step down from Princeton (very successful Ivy)?
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Post by Filthyhoya on Jul 26, 2005 15:26:42 GMT -5
The original question was when was the last time a coach left a big name school for another. I just gave you 2 answers. I could care less who has a better past.
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Post by StPetersburgHoya (Inactive) on Jul 26, 2005 16:25:07 GMT -5
I think Kansas (with UNC and Duke) is a step up from any other school in D-I because of the institutional resources given to the mens basketball program - to the extent that it outstrips the support given to their D-1 football program. All of them have committed boosters who will spend whatever it takes to keep the program at its already high level, large student booster organizations, traditions of excellence, and offer a coach the opportunity to become a star.
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