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Post by kbones17 on Jan 22, 2021 18:55:11 GMT -5
So we are at 4 games postponed as of now, and with a dwindling number of days to get them in. Has the BE indicated the stance on trying to reschedule some/all of the postponed games? It would seem that there is no way to do so across the board with other teams on pause and some Having just restarted after missions games.
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Post by dchoya72 on Jan 25, 2021 4:41:25 GMT -5
What is happening with the team presently? Are they able to practice?
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Post by daveg023 on Jan 25, 2021 5:57:40 GMT -5
What is happening with the team presently? Are they able to practice? From what I understand, no. They can workout individually but not as a team.
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Post by bostonfan on Jan 25, 2021 8:34:54 GMT -5
What is happening with the team presently? Are they able to practice? From what I understand, no. They can workout individually but not as a team. I was thinking the same thing about when the team can start practicing again. After this long away from playing I would hope the team gets a week or so of practice to get back into the swing of things. Even if the guys have been doing some individual work it would be hard to keep in game shape without any least scrimmaging as a team.
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Post by dchoya72 on Jan 25, 2021 9:17:28 GMT -5
Maybe they are reviewing film via zoom to get a better understanding of team basketball.
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Post by prhoya on Jan 25, 2021 9:31:15 GMT -5
From what I understand, no. They can workout individually but not as a team. I was thinking the same thing about when the team can start practicing again. After this long away from playing I would hope the team gets a week or so of practice to get back into the swing of things. Even if the guys have been doing some individual work it would be hard to keep in game shape without any least scrimmaging as a team. At this point, all or most of the BE teams have had to pause play due to COVID. Everyone else has managed. Let’s not find yet another excuse for poor results.
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Post by rhw485 on Jan 25, 2021 11:19:37 GMT -5
No inside information here, but I think we'll know more on Wednesday. That will be two weeks from the positive test, and if the team can practice on Wednesday that sets them up to play Providence on Saturday. I remember Hurley specifically saying he wasn't going to put his team on the floor the day after they resumed practice, so there's precedent for needing more than one. A week of practice doesn't seem realistic but I think 3 days is probably what they're going to get.
I remember Willard being ecstatic with his team losing, but competing, in their fist game after COVID pause. I agree Ewing is way too eager to use excuses but in the first game back after a couple of weeks off I think it's stating the obvious that things will look a little ragged.
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Post by guru on Jan 25, 2021 11:41:29 GMT -5
Let’s be honest - every game for this team the rest of the season is really just an extended practice/scrimmage. Might as well get back out there as soon as they can manage it. Results are ancillary to development
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Post by hoyaboya on Jan 25, 2021 13:27:21 GMT -5
The lack of games sets up nicely for Ewing - eliminates the possibility of putting up something like a 3-15 conference record and serves as a built-in excuse if things don't go well next year (since COVID hit the Hoyas harder than any other Big East team, it really stunted their development - not Ewing's fault). It's reminiscent of Mike Norvell/Florida State during football season.
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Post by dchoya72 on Jan 26, 2021 8:02:37 GMT -5
I hope the team can become more cerebral about their play and become better decision-makers.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2021 12:05:29 GMT -5
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Post by hoyaboya on Jan 26, 2021 12:16:31 GMT -5
Love it - one of the few times during the Big East season when Ewing has an opportunity to outcoach his opponent.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Jan 26, 2021 13:57:43 GMT -5
Love it - one of the few times during the Big East season when Ewing has an opportunity to outcoach his opponent. You never miss an opportunity to dump on Cooley, even though he's a much better coach than you will ever give him credit for.
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Post by hoyaboya on Jan 26, 2021 14:15:18 GMT -5
Love it - one of the few times during the Big East season when Ewing has an opportunity to outcoach his opponent. You never miss an opportunity to dump on Cooley, even though he's a much better coach than you will ever give him credit for. 15 years as a head coach, 1 NCAA Tournament victory - Cooley is probably the most overrated coach in college basketball. Georgetown has been his B**ch over the past 6-7 years or so, and I think that's part of what makes this board overrate him. But he's accomplished very little at a basketball school, particularly for how much he gets paid. Sounds familiar, actually...
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Post by DFW HOYA on Jan 26, 2021 14:32:52 GMT -5
15 years as a head coach, 1 NCAA Tournament victory - Cooley is probably the most overrated coach in college basketball. Georgetown has been his B**ch over the past 6-7 years or so, and I think that's part of what makes this board overrate him. But he's accomplished very little at a basketball school, particularly for how much he gets paid. Sounds familiar, actually... Really disagree on this. He does more with less than any coach in the Big East. How many Top 100 recruits have gone to PC in the last 10 years? (Four, and two transferred.) When was the last NBA draft pick from PC? (2016). It's not a destination for major recruits and he makes the most of what he has. The smallest school in the Big East, in the smallest state, in a 48 year old arena, can still compete night in and night out--something that a Tim Welsh or Keno Davis could not always say. Plus, he's a Georgetown parent and appreciates this program more than most BE coaches. Five straight NCAA's is nothing to dismiss lightly, given that it had never happened in PC history, and Georgetown hasn't done that since (gulp...) 1986-1991. And since 2014, how many Big East coaches not named Jay Wright have won more than one NCAA game in that stretch? Greg McDermott? 1-3 Kevin Willard? 1-3 Chris Mullin? 0-1 Steve Wojciechowski? 0-2 Steele, Jordan, Anderson, Ewing, Leitao: 0-0
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Post by hoyaboya on Jan 26, 2021 15:03:31 GMT -5
15 years as a head coach, 1 NCAA Tournament victory - Cooley is probably the most overrated coach in college basketball. Georgetown has been his B**ch over the past 6-7 years or so, and I think that's part of what makes this board overrate him. But he's accomplished very little at a basketball school, particularly for how much he gets paid. Sounds familiar, actually... Really disagree on this. He does more with less than any coach in the Big East. How many Top 100 recruits have gone to PC in the last 10 years? (Four, and two transferred.) When was the last NBA draft pick from PC? (2016). It's not a destination for major recruits and he makes the most of what he has. The smallest school in the Big East, in the smallest state, in a 48 year old arena, can still compete night in and night out--something that a Tim Welsh or Keno Davis could not always say. Plus, he's a Georgetown parent and appreciates this program more than most BE coaches. Five straight NCAA's is nothing to dismiss lightly, given that it had never happened in PC history, and Georgetown hasn't done that since (gulp...) 1986-1991. And since 2014, how many Big East coaches not named Jay Wright have won more than one NCAA game in that stretch? Greg McDermott? 1-3 Kevin Willard? 1-3 Chris Mullin? 0-1 Steve Wojciechowski? 0-2 Steele, Jordan, Anderson, Ewing, Leitao: 0-0 The fact that Cooley has a kid at Georgetown has nothing to do with whether he's a good coach. Also, the comparison to other coaches isn't particularly fair, since you're only looking at guys that are currently coaching Big East teams. Chris Mack, while at Xavier from 2014-2018, won 7 NCAA Tournament games. Chris Holtmann, while at Butler from 2015-2017, won 4 NCAA Tournament games. Mike Anderson, who was coaching Arkansas from 2014-2019, won 2 NCAA Tournament games. Danny Hurley, while at Rhode Island from 2014-2018, won 2 NCAA Tourrnament games. Again, Cooley has 1 NCAA Tournament victory in 15 YEARS AS A HEAD COACH. On the "does more with less" point - here's a direct quote from Cooley in 2019: “The Friars are my family,” Cooley said. “Most importantly, my commitment is to my players and my team at Providence. I am extremely grateful to Father Shanley, Athletic Director Bob Driscoll, the donors, season-ticket holders and fans for all that they have done for me and my family. “They have helped make Providence basketball one of the best jobs in the Big East and the country. “Their commitment and support with resources and other means has made me realize what a special place Providence College is. A few months ago, we opened the best practice facility in the country — the Ruane Development Center.”www.thesunchronicle.com/sports/local_sports/cooley-agrees-to-multi-year-pc-contract-extension/article_d57f8e64-4cdd-55e7-bf17-e6d1846f2aab.htmlCooley makes between $3M-$4M/year, likely in the top 3 in the Big East along with Wright and Ewing. www.golocalprov.com/sports/ed-cooley-pcs-mega-million-man.-he-transcends-sportsI would argue Cooley does less with more than any Big East coach not named Patrick Ewing. A good coach can win at Providence. Rick Pitino went to the Final Four. Pete Gillen went to the Elite Eight. Cooley beat USC in the first round once.
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Post by professorhoya on Jan 26, 2021 15:03:54 GMT -5
You never miss an opportunity to dump on Cooley, even though he's a much better coach than you will ever give him credit for. 15 years as a head coach, 1 NCAA Tournament victory - Cooley is probably the most overrated coach in college basketball. Georgetown has been his B**ch over the past 6-7 years or so, and I think that's part of what makes this board overrate him. But he's accomplished very little at a basketball school, particularly for how much he gets paid. Sounds familiar, actually... Hard to believe he's been there 15 years.
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Post by DFW HOYA on Jan 26, 2021 15:35:00 GMT -5
A good coach can win at Providence. Rick Pitino went to the Final Four. Pete Gillen went to the Elite Eight. Cooley beat USC in the first round once. Different eras. The contemporary Ernie D or Billy Donovan isn't going to Providence (or Holy Cross or BC for that matter) but Michigan or Virginia or Duke. The success of that program under Joe Mullaney and Dave Gavitt was that it had a niche in the Northeast that BC, Holy Cross, or UConn didn't serve. PC took a huge step back when it joined the Big East and it was the two year tenure of Rick Pitino (just two) that kick-started that program. But even Pitino was no better than 17-15 in conference play. The 1986-87 Final Four season was also the first season of Jim Calhoun in Storrs, and once he stepped on the gas pedal, PC was in their wake. It remains to be seen if Hurley can replicate this and that should be of some concern to PC. Cooley needs better recruits that what he gets and be more aggressive in non-conference scheduling. It's remarkable how Jay Wright has lapped the field but I'll rank Cooley at a tie for 3rd in the conference with Kevin Willard, both trailing Wright and McDermott.
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Post by HometownHoya on Jan 26, 2021 18:14:45 GMT -5
Can't wait for Saturday...hopefully the healthy guys have had some time to practice with each other these past couple of weeks.
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Post by SaxaCD on Jan 26, 2021 18:42:19 GMT -5
I agree, it's Boeheim's fault!
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