LCPolo18
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Post by LCPolo18 on Jan 24, 2020 14:42:53 GMT -5
100% correct. Chasing kids across the country is not a recipe for success. You want east coast kids that can help you build a useful network. Kids say they want to get away from home, but getting a few 100 miles from home is usually good enough, when you are changing time zones and climates and the way people talk things start to be very unfamiliar for these kids. There is just so much talent between Boston and Virginia, even the tier 2 players are good enough to play in the BE. Good point--and with out of towners there is simply less information from coaches or teachers on who's a troublemaker and who's not. Don't doubt for a moment that John Thompson knew exactly who he was recruiting in the DC/Balt area because he had intel throughout the region. FWIW, nine of the last ten transfers have been outside of the Northeast. Stephen Domingo - California Isaac Copeland - North Carolina Paul White - Illinois Chris Sodom - TennesseeAntwan Walker - Washington DC James Akinjo - California Grayson Carter - Texas Josh LeBlanc - Louisiana Galen Alexander - Louisiana Myron Gardner - MichiganAlso Akoy Agau and Tre Campbell transferred in 2017.
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jester
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Post by jester on Jan 24, 2020 16:56:56 GMT -5
None of those guys were huge difference makers for their programs. Copeland probably had the best season while White was a solid cog for Oregon on a better team. Why did they transfer, I don't recall? They were definitely on the opposite of the Whitney skill vs natural athlete spectrum.
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hoyainla
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Post by hoyainla on Jan 25, 2020 0:37:10 GMT -5
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Bigs"R"Us
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Jan 25, 2020 5:56:47 GMT -5
I’d like to move forward and hope we can rebuild quickly, but we lost four good players. Pat was able to corral the talent in three years, it just ended catastrophically. It sucks!
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Post by Ranch Dressing on Jan 25, 2020 7:55:20 GMT -5
It’s almost a full reboot. Sets us back at least 2 years. Sucks.
If the University is supportive of Ewing through the 4 departures, they’ll probably extend their expectations for success out a few years.
He’ll get at least 2 more years after this one, as long as recruiting and player retention moves in a positive direction from this newly established program nadir.
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Post by calhoya on Jan 25, 2020 8:09:38 GMT -5
It’s almost a full reboot. Sets us back at least 2 years. Sucks. If the University is supportive of Ewing through the 4 departures, they’ll probably extend their expectations for success out a few years. He’ll get at least 2 more years after this one, as long as recruiting and player retention moves in a positive direction from this newly established program nadir. I assume that the University supporting Ewing after the transfers is a no-brainer. Certainly not saying that he should be given unqualified support, given the struggles of this program before and since the transfers, but he is an icon within the program, works hard to recruit, strongly supported by Thompson and brings national attention to the program at a level far greater than is deserved based upon recent results in the past 5 years. He cannot be expected to recruit effectively as a lame duck so an extension almost has to occur. As fans we can only hope that he is growing as a coach, learning to recruit pieces that fit together and will eventually find the shooters for the offense he wants to run and either learn how or bring in someone who knows how to coach defense. The challenge for Ewing is great. His commitment to the program seems very strong. Now we just need some results.
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Bigs"R"Us
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Jan 25, 2020 8:44:36 GMT -5
^^^Agree completely with this. Ewing is out there relentlessly recruiting. We will have the pieces again, but it’s going to take a couple of recruiting cycles.
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Post by Lethal_Interjection on Jan 25, 2020 21:54:30 GMT -5
Galen to Texas Southern (fwiw)
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tashoya
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Post by tashoya on Jan 25, 2020 22:06:18 GMT -5
I feel like I should know who we're talking about but it's just not coming to me. They sound familiar but I just can't place them.
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hoyas315
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Post by hoyas315 on Feb 3, 2020 15:40:01 GMT -5
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Post by professorhoya on Feb 3, 2020 16:00:04 GMT -5
How is this clown still coaching. Didn’t he pay to get recruits.
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EtomicB
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Post by EtomicB on Mar 1, 2020 12:23:39 GMT -5
How is this clown still coaching. Didn’t he pay to get recruits.
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Mar 1, 2020 14:05:40 GMT -5
At LSU and many other state schools, sports are the tail that wags the dog.
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Post by daveg023 on Mar 1, 2020 19:40:16 GMT -5
Has Gardner landed anywhere? Of all the guys we lost this one never was clear to me. And can you imagine if he was still here the extended minutes he would been thrust into?
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hoyaboya
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Post by hoyaboya on Apr 6, 2020 17:53:20 GMT -5
Arizona has a lot of younger guards who were highly rated in high school. Pretty sure I won't bother to watch any Pac games next year but will be curious to see if Akinjo ever gets to start another game. Actually they don't, both Mannion & Green will go pro after this season, that leaves B. Williams who's hurt right now & RS Soph Jermal Baker who's not a ball handler on the roster. Arizona is a good spot for Akinjo roster wise... www.verbalcommits.com/schools/arizonaSeattle graduate transfer Terrell Brown verbally committed to Arizona on Monday, he tells 247Sports. “I picked Arizona because I feel that it was a great fit for me,” Brown said. “The coaches were straight up with me from the beginning and we built a relationship that will continue to get stronger and stronger.” “Arizona is a great school and the coaching staff wants what’s best for me,” he added. Brown, a 6-foot-1, 175-pound guard, committed to Arizona over Washington, Arkansas and DePaul. When did he know Arizona was the right spot for him? “Yesterday afternoon I had a great PowerPoint presentation, and that’s kind of when I knew,” Brown said. “I had my family there with me to go over it with coach [Jack] Murphy.” During the 2019-2020 season, Brown averaged 20.7 points, 6.2 rebounds and 4.9 assists a game, while shooting 41.4-percent from the field. The year prior Brown averaged 14.1 points, 6.8 rebounds and 4.5 assists a game. “I can be a leader on and off the floor,” Brown explained. “A vocal leader, lead by example but whatever coach [Sean] Miller, coach Murphy and coach [Danny] Peters needs from me.” Brown is eligible to play at Arizona next season. 247sports.com/college/basketball/recruiting/Article/Terrell-Brown-Arizona-Seattle-transfer-145766907/
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Apr 6, 2020 21:21:09 GMT -5
^^^ I hope James plays nice 😉
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tashoya
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Post by tashoya on Apr 6, 2020 21:44:01 GMT -5
^^^ I hope James plays nice 😉 I wouldn't bet a lot on that happening.
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blueandgray
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Post by blueandgray on Apr 7, 2020 0:44:40 GMT -5
One thing we know is that Brown will start the season ...James is going to have to beat him out once conference playoff starts.
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Apr 7, 2020 3:44:06 GMT -5
Agree. I don’t think James will be happy coming off the bench as a junior, after starting as a freshman and sophomore. At least his uncle definitely won’t. He needs to work on distributing and hitting the new three.
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Post by professorhoya on Apr 7, 2020 5:49:41 GMT -5
I thought Sean Miller gave Akinjo the keys to the car.
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