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Post by tashoya on Dec 6, 2019 22:56:36 GMT -5
The most interesting part of this exercise would be, who's on the Georgetown short list? Every good AD should have and also update a short list of candidates every year in the event that a coach leaves I don't have any good guesses considering there really isn't any Thompson coaching tree to speak of. Does that include a short list of ADs too?
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Post by iowa80 on Dec 6, 2019 23:09:27 GMT -5
How many head coaching jobs opened up during the time Patrick was an NBA assistant? OK, there's a Knicks connection, but I'd think that they would want some evidence of college success before taking a shot on him. Ain't happening.
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Post by guru on Dec 6, 2019 23:27:54 GMT -5
The most interesting part of this exercise would be, who's on the Georgetown short list? Every good AD should have and also update a short list of candidates every year in the event that a coach leaves I don't have any good guesses considering there really isn't any Thompson coaching tree to speak of. This list is: 1. Ronny Thompson Be afraid.
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Post by kghoya on Dec 6, 2019 23:34:45 GMT -5
The most interesting part of this exercise would be, who's on the Georgetown short list? Every good AD should have and also update a short list of candidates every year in the event that a coach leaves I don't have any good guesses considering there really isn't any Thompson coaching tree to speak of. This list is: 1. Ronny Thompson Be afraid. I don't disagree.
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Post by hoyaboya on Dec 7, 2019 0:22:19 GMT -5
This list is: 1. Ronny Thompson Be afraid. I don't disagree. Kevin Broadus?
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Post by jwp91 on Dec 7, 2019 6:21:02 GMT -5
He’s damaged goods now. He screwed up his chance.
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Post by Elvado on Dec 7, 2019 6:38:36 GMT -5
The most interesting part of this exercise would be, who's on the Georgetown short list? Every good AD should have and also update a short list of candidates every year in the event that a coach leaves I don't have any good guesses considering there really isn't any Thompson coaching tree to speak of. This list is: 1. Ronny Thompson Be afraid. Was down in Mcdonough lobby after the BE soccer final. Among the pictures of all the great Hoyas was an action shot of Ronny. I can only imagine it was from his turnover tour de force against UTEP... Speaks volumes.
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Post by Ranch Dressing on Dec 7, 2019 8:21:44 GMT -5
I love Ewing as much as the next guy, but does anyone really think, after being passed over for 10-15 years in the NBA, that his 2 1/2 year record at GU is evidence that he deserves a head coaching job in the league?
He’s not going anywhere any time soon.
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Post by puppydog100 on Dec 7, 2019 9:15:14 GMT -5
The fact that Ewing has been passed over for 10 - 15 years is exactly why he would grab the Knick job if he was given the opportunity. Hoyas next visit to New York is January 3 for a game with SHU at the Rock, New York media speculation will only intensify.
Hoyas vist MSG on Ground Hogs Day, welcome home Patrick.
If Ewing is not interested in the Knicks job, he should have a presser and reaffirm his commitment to GU and take himself out of the conversation, NOW! Can he recruit for GU is there is any speculation whatsoever that he is open to another opportunity?
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Post by bigelephant on Dec 7, 2019 10:11:56 GMT -5
The fact that Ewing has been passed over for 10 - 15 years is exactly why he would grab the Knick job if he was given the opportunity. Hoyas next visit to New York is January 3 for a game with SHU at the Rock, New York media speculation will only intensify. Hoyas vist MSG on Ground Hogs Day, welcome home Patrick. If Ewing is not interested in the Knicks job, he should have a presser and reaffirm his commitment to GU and take himself out of the conversation, NOW! Can he recruit for GU is there is any speculation whatsoever that he is open to another opportunity? Agree
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Post by DanMcQ on Dec 7, 2019 10:26:51 GMT -5
This doesn’t sound like a guy looking to go anywhere.
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Post by TC on Dec 7, 2019 10:31:28 GMT -5
I love Ewing as much as the next guy, but does anyone really think, after being passed over for 10-15 years in the NBA, that his 2 1/2 year record at GU is evidence that he deserves a head coaching job in the league? He’s not going anywhere any time soon. Does anyone think that the Knicks coaching job is something other people are gonna jump at? They could at least do some fan service by taking him.
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Post by puppydog100 on Dec 7, 2019 10:32:09 GMT -5
Ewing just doing his job as HC at GU.
If he is not interested in pursuing other opportunities, he should say so and put an end to any spectulation.
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Post by TC on Dec 7, 2019 10:52:18 GMT -5
Might be a good outcome for all involved. Sure, we may be able to accelerate our irrelevance. Do you think we are particularly relevant right now, other than for scandal? I really take issue with the word "accelerate" here - we are there. We're a lower tier BE program at this point that hasn't made the tournament in four years, probably won't this year, pays a ton to play in an empty arena that gives us almost no home court advantage, and that has no plans or prayers for anything on or near campus. Ewing isn't our problem, but I don't see him doing much to change our situation - we are not more relevant with Ewing than without him. He has name recognition, but so did Chris Mullin and Clyde Drexler and Isaiah Thomas. We have very weak links it seems in local recruiting, and he didn't do much in hiring to shore that up. He seems to spend most of his time recruiting blue chip stars that will never come to GU. We don't spend enough time on the 75-150 range. The program is media-incompetent, has moved backwards in terms of promotion, and now this week there's a ton of questions in how it is being run. This isn't a great situation for him - if he wants to coach in the NBA, the Knicks job is probably his best shot. He was a nostalgia hire at GU, he'd be a nostalgia hire for NYK too, but maybe he can do something with it. If anything, I'd argue Ewing moving to the NBA would make us more relevant because it would show that an upward trajectory is possible from our HC job.
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Post by Hoyas4Ever on Dec 7, 2019 11:01:58 GMT -5
Coaching experience is not a prerequisite to get an NBA head coach job. A lot of former players get head coaching positions without any coaching experience whatsoever. Several former players got head coaching jobs with less then 5 years as an assistant. The fact that Coach Ewing had 15 years as an assistant with several highly regarded NBA Head Coaches, when several organizations hired coaches with MINIMAL to ZERO coaching experience, tells me the writting was on the wall. The Association wasn't going to give him a chance. Before Georgetown, Coach Ewing was struggling just to get interviews with NBA squads. That tells me it was either that BIG Man bias or it was personal (maybe both). I tend to lean with the latter.
The NBA's loss is Georgetown's gain hopefully for at least the next decade...
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Post by AltoSaxa on Dec 7, 2019 12:51:08 GMT -5
“This isn't a great situation for him - if he wants to coach in the NBA, the Knicks job is probably his best shot. He was a nostalgia hire at GU, he'd be a nostalgia hire for NYK too, but maybe he can do something with it. If anything, I'd argue Ewing moving to the NBA would make us more relevant because it would show that an upward trajectory is possible from our HC job.”
I would offer the opposite opinion. If he leaves for another job NOW the narrative will be he jumped off a sinking ship due to a lack of institutional control on his part. Since he has yet to accomplish anything of substance in the eyes outside Healy Gates it would not show an “upward trajectory is possible from our HC JOB” - rather it’s a dead end job.
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Post by jwp91 on Dec 7, 2019 12:57:00 GMT -5
Sure, we may be able to accelerate our irrelevance. Do you think we are particularly relevant right now, other than for scandal? I really take issue with the word "accelerate" here - we are there. We're a lower tier BE program at this point that hasn't made the tournament in four years, probably won't this year, pays a ton to play in an empty arena that gives us almost no home court advantage, and that has no plans or prayers for anything on or near campus. Ewing isn't our problem, but I don't see him doing much to change our situation - we are not more relevant with Ewing than without him. He has name recognition, but so did Chris Mullin and Clyde Drexler and Isaiah Thomas. We have very weak links it seems in local recruiting, and he didn't do much in hiring to shore that up. He seems to spend most of his time recruiting blue chip stars that will never come to GU. We don't spend enough time on the 75-150 range. The program is media-incompetent, has moved backwards in terms of promotion, and now this week there's a ton of questions in how it is being run. This isn't a great situation for him - if he wants to coach in the NBA, the Knicks job is probably his best shot. He was a nostalgia hire at GU, he'd be a nostalgia hire for NYK too, but maybe he can do something with it. If anything, I'd argue Ewing moving to the NBA would make us more relevant because it would show that an upward trajectory is possible from our HC job. I see the positives of our situation. You are welcome to dwell on the negatives.
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Post by puppydog100 on Dec 7, 2019 14:12:05 GMT -5
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Post by puppydog100 on Dec 7, 2019 14:22:30 GMT -5
What Ewing has said in the past.....
Former New York Knicks great Patrick Ewing said he would love the opportunity to interview for the club's head-coaching vacancy.
"You know, this is a great fit for me," Ewing said before the Charlotte Hornets' 111-97 win over the Knicks on Wednesday, according to reports. "I have my number up there [in the Garden rafters]. I still live in the area. If I get an opportunity for an interview, I'd be happy."
Ewing is the lead assistant coach for the Hornets and has been an assistant for four teams over the past 13 seasons. He has expressed frustration over a lack of opportunity to advance to a head-coaching position.
"I've been doing this, what, 13 years now?" he said. "I see people who don't have the same amount on their résumé as I do and still have gotten opportunities. It is what it is. All I can do is continue to work, continue to get better at my craft, and hopefully one day somebody will give me an opportunity and I'll show that I'm ready."
Ewing has interviewed for just two head-coaching positions over the past 13 years. He turned down an opportunity to coach the Knicks' D-League team in 2012.
It appears unlikely that Ewing will be considered for the Knicks' opening. The Knicks are giving strong consideration to making interim coach Kurt Rambis their full-time coach, according to league sources.
Sources told ESPN.com on Tuesday that Rambis, who has served as the Knicks' interim coach since Derek Fisher was fired Feb. 8, is team president Phil Jackson's preferred choice. Sources say Jackson is pushing for a new multiyear deal for Rambis despite New York's 8-17 record since the coaching change.
Information from ESPN's Ian Begley and Marc Stein was used in this report.
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Post by wponds on Dec 7, 2019 14:30:49 GMT -5
Think there's a better chance they go after Mark Jackson if he's interested
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