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Post by sleepy on Mar 19, 2019 12:53:53 GMT -5
I know I'm a broken record but why not play some zone in this game? Don't know if Harvard has great 3 point shooting but we really need to have this in our arsenal next year so why not work on it in the NIT? Of course this assumes that we play guys who will be here next year - again part of my broken record. BTW, do any of you younger posters know what I mean by a broken record? When we have played zone with very few exception it's been a disaster we. Are too small and close slowly in addition we don't have size to extend zone out we have constantly run it in side 3 line and I have never seen penetration into a zone that we give up it's speed znd lateral movement that kills us its good once or ttwice but then gets killed
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Post by sleepyjackson21 on Mar 19, 2019 13:04:48 GMT -5
I went to our NIT game at McDonough against Cal St Fullerton in 2005. Entertaining game and you definitely had the sense that our program was on the upswing. Sweet Sixteen the following year and of course our last Final Four appearance two years later. Definitely see some similarities between then and now. Here's to hoping for a repeat.
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Post by NCHoya on Mar 19, 2019 13:48:07 GMT -5
I was wondering what the reaction would be to Harvard visiting, I figured it would be a good draw for the students. I hope the Hoyas can feed off of that energy and play an impressive game.
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Post by NCHoya on Mar 19, 2019 13:53:56 GMT -5
Dr. Q - I nominate you to go into the locker room tomorrow night and give the pre-game speech. Explain to the seniors - especially Jessie and Kaleb - that they are going to spend the first post-season tournament game of their careers watching from the bench, because all that matters is next seasonš While I would like to see some Grayson, Patrick will play the players whom he feels give us the best chance to win. And he should. The best thing we can do at this point for next season is give the underclassmen as much post-season experience as possible - which means winning as many games as possible. 100% play to win the game, you owe that to this senior class that stuck with the program through a difficult time. Let them finally play in the postseason in front of their fellow students. An on-campus game is a unique experience for them to experience at GU. I do not understand the Grayson stuff? Coach and staff see him everyday in practice, if he could help the team win, he would play. One of the many things you can say about Ewing, he hates to lose and he is very liberal with playing time regardless of class. There is a reason Carter does not play. Have patience, he is just a freshman.
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Post by wrestlemania on Mar 19, 2019 14:39:35 GMT -5
Yes - Iāve wondered how serious they were on Amaker too. Or if itās just a name that was thrown out there. āKeep it in the familyā... Yep -- my understanding from a source (time for a grain of salt, I know) is that the job was Ewing's once he expressed interest. I think the "search" was strictly window dressing, as it was for JT III. Apologies if this is OT, but does anyone remember Esh's deft handling of the school's NIT bid during his tenure (I forget the year). Yes, folks, there was a time when things were worse than they are now.
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Post by drquigley on Mar 19, 2019 15:16:42 GMT -5
Dr. Q - I nominate you to go into the locker room tomorrow night and give the pre-game speech. Explain to the seniors - especially Jessie and Kaleb - that they are going to spend the first post-season tournament game of their careers watching from the bench, because all that matters is next seasonš While I would like to see some Grayson, Patrick will play the players whom he feels give us the best chance to win. And he should. The best thing we can do at this point for next season is give the underclassmen as much post-season experience as possible - which means winning as many games as possible. 100% play to win the game, you owe that to this senior class that stuck with the program through a difficult time. Let them finally play in the postseason in front of their fellow students. An on-campus game is a unique experience for them to experience at GU. I do not understand the Grayson stuff? Coach and staff see him everyday in practice, if he could help the team win, he would play. One of the many things you can say about Ewing, he hates to lose and he is very liberal with playing time regardless of class. There is a reason Carter does not play. Have patience, he is just a freshman. Okay, how's this? Start all 3 seniors. Keep them in until under 16 timeout. Then go all frosh with Carter and Pickett. Seriously, I posted this knowing it would never happen and also PE probably feels he owes something to the seniors for, as you say, sticking with the program through some hard times. But I'm just so sick of Govan/Mourning I can't wait until next year and I guess I'm trying to rush it.
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Post by iowa80 on Mar 19, 2019 15:21:57 GMT -5
To all the talk in the NIT thread about āI donāt care about the NIT,ā you have never been to the NIT semi finals night at the Garden. Two worthwhile games in the NIT at the Garden. The Hoyas just barely losing to Pistol Pete and LSU, holding Pete to 20 points (he did make a 3/4 court bounce pass for a great assist). The other game was Holy Cross vs Colorado State on St. Patrick's day. The Cross was not going to lose with a lineup of Jack the Shot Foley, Sheehan, and Blaney. The CSU center was something like 16-17, but the Irish lads prevailed. Oh my . . . Jack "the Shot." Almost before even my time. Lefty, if I recall. Next thing we'll be talking about DC's own John Austin at BC.
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Post by LCPolo18 on Mar 19, 2019 15:24:01 GMT -5
āKeep it in the familyā... Yep -- my understanding from a source (time for a grain of salt, I know) is that the job was Ewing's once he expressed interest. I think the "search" was strictly window dressing, as it was for JT III. Apologies if this is OT, but does anyone remember Esh's deft handling of the school's NIT bid during his tenure (I forget the year). Yes, folks, there was a time when things were worse than they are now. The 2001-2002 season, which was the start of a four year period that rivals the current four year period of Hoya basketball. www.thehoya.com/esherick-says-n-o-to-nit/
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Post by prhoya on Mar 19, 2019 15:36:32 GMT -5
Okay, how's this? Start all 3 4 seniors. Keep them in until under 16 timeout. Then go all frosh with Carter and Pickett. Seriously, I posted this knowing it would never happen and also PE probably feels he owes something to the seniors for, as you say, sticking with the program through some hard times. But I'm just so sick of Govan/Mourning I can't wait until next year and I guess I'm trying to rush it. Corrected it for you. Start Akinjo with Greg at the 2, Kaleb at 3, Trey at 4 and Govan at 5 until the 16' TO.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Mar 19, 2019 15:50:21 GMT -5
Dr. Q - I nominate you to go into the locker room tomorrow night and give the pre-game speech. Explain to the seniors - especially Jessie and Kaleb - that they are going to spend the first post-season tournament game of their careers watching from the bench, because all that matters is next seasonš While I would like to see some Grayson, Patrick will play the players whom he feels give us the best chance to win. And he should. The best thing we can do at this point for next season is give the underclassmen as much post-season experience as possible - which means winning as many games as possible. 100% play to win the game, you owe that to this senior class that stuck with the program through a difficult time. Let them finally play in the postseason in front of their fellow students. An on-campus game is a unique experience for them to experience at GU. I do not understand the Grayson stuff? Coach and staff see him everyday in practice, if he could help the team win, he would play. One of the many things you can say about Ewing, he hates to lose and he is very liberal with playing time regardless of class. There is a reason Carter does not play. Have patience, he is just a freshman. The "Grayson stuff" is just a thought that he can get a few minutes - maybe 4-5 in each half - to see what he can contribute. Part of the reasoning is that while Trey has some positive moments, his increasing need to chuck up every slightly available shot cancels out those positives; that being the case, see what Grayson gives us. Obviously the staff knows where he is in his development, but at this point with Trey, can it really hurt to try Grayson?
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Mar 19, 2019 16:00:38 GMT -5
100% play to win the game, you owe that to this senior class that stuck with the program through a difficult time. Let them finally play in the postseason in front of their fellow students. An on-campus game is a unique experience for them to experience at GU. I do not understand the Grayson stuff? Coach and staff see him everyday in practice, if he could help the team win, he would play. One of the many things you can say about Ewing, he hates to lose and he is very liberal with playing time regardless of class. There is a reason Carter does not play. Have patience, he is just a freshman. Okay, how's this? Start all 3 seniors. Keep them in until under 16 timeout. Then go all frosh with Carter and Pickett. Seriously, I posted this knowing it would never happen and also PE probably feels he owes something to the seniors for, as you say, sticking with the program through some hard times. But I'm just so sick of Govan/Mourning I can't wait until next year and I guess I'm trying to rush it. Hey we all have Govan/Mourning exhaustion. But you still have to do everything possible to try to win and extend the season. One, every extra game is more post-season experience for the underclassmen. Two,you want the season to end on as positive a note as possible, not only for the seniors ending their careers, but for the mindset of the underclassmen going forward. And three while of course the NIT has nothing near the importance that it used to have, there are many decent teams, and winning it would elevate our reputation, and act as a springboard for next season. Hoya Saxa.
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Post by bicentennial on Mar 19, 2019 16:53:13 GMT -5
Okay, how's this? Start all 3 seniors. Keep them in until under 16 timeout. Then go all frosh with Carter and Pickett. Seriously, I posted this knowing it would never happen and also PE probably feels he owes something to the seniors for, as you say, sticking with the program through some hard times. But I'm just so sick of Govan/Mourning I can't wait until next year and I guess I'm trying to rush it. Hey we all have Govan/Mourning exhaustion. But you still have to do everything possible to try to win and extend the season. One, every extra game is more post-season experience for the underclassmen. Two,you want the season to end on as positive a note as possible, not only for the seniors ending their careers, but for the mindset of the underclassmen going forward. And three while of course the NIT has nothing near the importance that it used to have, there are many decent teams, and winning it would elevate our reputation, and act as a springboard for next season. Hoya Saxa. Also the Big East was down this year but also had no bad teams. This is reflected in how close the games were and that so many teams ended up the year near 500 in conference and above 500 overall. It would be great if the Big East middle teams were all to meet one more time in the last four of the NIT. In that regard, I feel bad for Xavier and Creighton who have to match up before the final weekend if they win.
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Post by HometownHoya on Mar 19, 2019 18:10:24 GMT -5
Anyway, to the game on hand: I'm sure there are some out there in Hoya land that also watch Ivy basketball. This team definitely won't be a cake walk, they were the #1 seed in the Ivy tournament. They're shooting 37.1% from 3 as a team and 45.7% from the field so they are no slouch. They're definitely carried by their top scoring guard Bryce Aiken at 22.6 PPG (next closest is 10.8). I don't think we will have much size advantage because their 5 forwards that get minutes are all 6'9"-6'11", fortunately Aiken is only 6'0" so our guards should be able to man up on him...we're pretty close across all positions. Based on their season stats, they go pretty deep but can't really tell you how it goes game to game but there were 12 guys that averaged over 10mpg (11 played, 8 over 10 minutes against Yale in the Ivy championship.
All this is just based on their season per game stats, would love to hear from someone that watched them play!
Go Hoyas!
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Post by daveg023 on Mar 19, 2019 21:01:27 GMT -5
Anyway, to the game on hand: I'm sure there are some out there in Hoya land that also watch Ivy basketball. This team definitely won't be a cake walk, they were the #1 seed in the Ivy tournament. They're shooting 37.1% from 3 as a team and 45.7% from the field so they are no slouch. They're definitely carried by their top scoring guard Bryce Aiken at 22.6 PPG (next closest is 10.8). I don't think we will have much size advantage because their 5 forwards that get minutes are all 6'9"-6'11", fortunately Aiken is only 6'0" so our guards should be able to man up on him...we're pretty close across all positions. Based on their season stats, they go pretty deep but can't really tell you how it goes game to game but there were 12 guys that averaged over 10mpg (11 played, 8 over 10 minutes against Yale in the Ivy championship. All this is just based on their season per game stats, would love to hear from someone that watched them play! Go Hoyas! All I can add is that I saw them play against Yale last weekend. They have a guard named Bryce Aiken who is a serious player and seems poised to be the the next guard to put up 30 against us. That being said they couldn't stop Yale at all and gave up 97 points. I think if Jesse has any energy or fire, he should be able to get 20 and 10 in his sleep, but after this last month I have no idea what to expect from him.
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Post by JohnnyJones on Mar 20, 2019 11:51:18 GMT -5
I have a few extra tickets for the Harvard game tonight. PM me if interested.
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Post by centercourt400s on Mar 20, 2019 15:55:16 GMT -5
Not a lot of buzz around this game with about 2 hours to gametime. Are people just bummed that it is the NIT?
Personally I'm just happy that I get to attend one more home game and bonus that it is in McDonough as well. Sounds like fun to me!
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Post by iowa80 on Mar 20, 2019 16:11:10 GMT -5
100% play to win the game, you owe that to this senior class that stuck with the program through a difficult time. Let them finally play in the postseason in front of their fellow students. An on-campus game is a unique experience for them to experience at GU. I do not understand the Grayson stuff? Coach and staff see him everyday in practice, if he could help the team win, he would play. One of the many things you can say about Ewing, he hates to lose and he is very liberal with playing time regardless of class. There is a reason Carter does not play. Have patience, he is just a freshman. The "Grayson stuff" is just a thought that he can get a few minutes - maybe 4-5 in each half - to see what he can contribute. Part of the reasoning is that while Trey has some positive moments, his increasing need to chuck up every slightly available shot cancels out those positives; that being the case, see what Grayson gives us. Obviously the staff knows where he is in his development, but at this point with Trey, can it really hurt to try Grayson? Let's go for it. Grayson (wide receiver in HS) could be the Gharun Hester of the 2019 NIT. The question is who will be the Kevin Braswell.
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Post by LCPolo18 on Mar 20, 2019 16:25:54 GMT -5
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Post by LCPolo18 on Mar 20, 2019 16:57:52 GMT -5
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Post by DFW HOYA on Mar 20, 2019 17:22:46 GMT -5
I wish Georgetown would stop this retro nonsense. It's a current design. Same for the teal. Now, if they want to pull these out of the storage closet at McD, I'm all for it...but they aren't.
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