Terrence Shannon Jr. '19 verbal to Texas Tech

[Ranch Dressing]

If given the choice, what’s a more important need?

A fifth guard to go with Akinjo, Blair, Mac, and Mosely.

Or a second shooting wing to go with Pickett?

Cole would be amazing, but a defensive scoring wing may actually be lead to more team wins.

[dense]

Jan 30, 2019 19:32:10 GMT -5 Ranch Dressing said:

If given the choice, what’s a more important need?

A fifth guard to go with Akinjo, Blair, Mac, and Mosely.

Or a second shooting wing to go with Pickett?

Cole would be amazing, but a defensive scoring wing may actually be lead to more team wins.

Another shooter who is in the 6'5 -6'8 range would be ideal.

[hoyasaxa18]

Jan 30, 2019 19:32:10 GMT -5 Ranch Dressing said:

If given the choice, what’s a more important need?

A fifth guard to go with Akinjo, Blair, Mac, and Mosely.

Or a second shooting wing to go with Pickett?

Cole would be amazing, but a defensive scoring wing may actually be lead to more team wins.

A wing is probably a bigger need than a guard at this stage. But Cole Anthony is an exception. He is the best player in the country. 

[AshantiCooksBurner]

Jan 30, 2019 19:32:10 GMT -5 Ranch Dressing said:

If given the choice, what’s a more important need?

A fifth guard to go with Akinjo, Blair, Mac, and Mosely.

Or a second shooting wing to go with Pickett?

Cole would be amazing, but a defensive scoring wing may actually be lead to more team wins.

Wing is more important than a lead guard in 2019, but come on.. Nothing is more important than getting a kid like Cole. He would have a chance to be the best player in the big east day 1. 

[Ranch Dressing]

Jan 30, 2019 22:19:32 GMT -5 AshantiCooksBurner said:

Jan 30, 2019 19:32:10 GMT -5 Ranch Dressing said:

If given the choice, what’s a more important need?

A fifth guard to go with Akinjo, Blair, Mac, and Mosely.

Or a second shooting wing to go with Pickett?

Cole would be amazing, but a defensive scoring wing may actually be lead to more team wins.

Wing is more important than a lead guard in 2019, but come on.. Nothing is more important than getting a kid like Cole. He would have a chance to be the best player in the big east day 1. 

I know it seems like a no-brainer, but I don’t think it’s that easy. You bring Cole in and our existing guards, who have been handed the keys, are totally disrupted. I think it raises more questions than provides answers.

I guess my point is that if given a choice between recruiting an elite wing and a Cole, I’d take the wing, based on the current roster and team needs and personalities/chemistry.

How would James react to Cole? No bueno.

[Bigs"R"Us]

You take Cole, one of the best players in the county. He would put us on the recruiting map. There will be enough minutes. Want Shannon as well. 😉

[augustusfinknottle]

How long would either of them stay?

[dchoya72]

It would be great to get him. With our current recruitment, we need at least one highly skilled big guard 6-5" - 6-6"
I believe it would be a dog fight to bring in another pg for next year...I think Akinjo will keep developing. I like him a lot! We seem to have great candidates for 2020.

[hoyanewyorka]

[dchoya72]

Break away dunks don't impress me, anyone 6'2" should be able to do it LOL. I believe he's wonderful but what would impress me with prospects or new recruits are some one-on-one moves in the flow of the game nailing jumpers like some of our opponents having been serving us...6'4" --6'6"

[dense]

Feb 2, 2019 12:50:55 GMT -5 dchoya72 said:

Break away dunks don't impress me, anyone 6'2" should be able to do it LOL. I believe he's wonderful but what would impress me with prospects or new recruits are some one-on-one moves in the flow of the game nailing jumpers like some of our opponents having been serving us...6'4" --6'6"

My only concern with his game is he seems to be a 1 on 1 player. Which has its positives and negatives especially on a team of alphas.

[dchoya72]

We need some guys with one-on-one capabilities big time!! Sometimes you have to say "take over"...that's what Mullin told Ponds recently. They have to play within the team concept, but yes, we need some one-on-one skills. This guy can dance shoot jumpers and go to the goal strong! I like his skills.

[calhoya]

This team needs perimeter shooters for next year either at the wing position or SG. Last year's loss of Derrickson and next year losing Govan has taken two very consistent outside shooters. For all the complaints about Govan's defense, it will be next year before everyone truly realizes what an asset he is as a big who can step out and nail the 3, score in the paint and make the proper pass. I have also noticed that his defense is better in spurts when he seems to be rested and focused.

[dchoya72]

Feb 2, 2019 14:27:46 GMT -5 calhoya said:

This team needs perimeter shooters for next year either at the wing position or SG. Last year's loss of Derrickson and next year losing Govan has taken two very consistent outside shooters. For all the complaints about Govan's defense, it will be next year before everyone truly realizes 0what an asset he is as a big who can step out and nail the 3, score in the paint and make the proper pass. I have also noticed that his defense is better in spurts when he seems to be rested and focused.

I agree about Govan. I am happy for the freshmen guards and their scoring skills but yes we need some very skilled wings next year and the very confident attitude walking in the door.

[eastcoastteddy58]

Feb 2, 2019 14:27:46 GMT -5 calhoya said:

This team needs perimeter shooters for next year either at the wing position or SG. Last year's loss of Derrickson and next year losing Govan has taken two very consistent outside shooters. For all the complaints about Govan's defense, it will be next year before everyone truly realizes what an asset he is as a big who can step out and nail the 3, score in the paint and make the proper pass. I have also noticed that his defense is better in spurts when he seems to be rested and focused.

True we do need outside shooters, next year as well as every year going forward. But something is changing on the Hilltop, I don't know if you guys have been tracking this but just about everybody has improved there three point shot; Kaleb Mosley, Grayson and LeBlanc have all been knocking them down. The only guys struggling with there shot are Greg and Blair at the moment, so are we coaching up the threes on the hill? 

One more issue I'd like to address, if we don't land a SF for the 2019 class I think we'll still be alright with Leblanc, Pickett and wait for it, Grayson Carter playing at SF. With all the bigs coming in next year I see room for Carter playing more at the 3 position. His mechanics are there he just needs to move his feet when playing smaller guards. So with that said an additional SF for next year would be nice but we really should focus on a SG/CG that can play point when James is either on the bench or having an off night.    

[johnnysnowplow]

Feb 2, 2019 14:27:46 GMT -5 calhoya said:

This team needs perimeter shooters for next year either at the wing position or SG. Last year's loss of Derrickson and next year losing Govan has taken two very consistent outside shooters. For all the complaints about Govan's defense, it will be next year before everyone truly realizes what an asset he is as a big who can step out and nail the 3, score in the paint and make the proper pass. I have also noticed that his defense is better in spurts when he seems to be rested and focused.

I don’t really agree with this premise. I, of course, agree with the premise that outside shooters are the most necessary part of basketball these days. But we’ve got many guys who can knock down perimeter shots. Akinjo, Mac, Yurt, Blair, Carter are clearly competent shooters. Pickett obviously has the range, even if hes inconsistent. Leblanc and recently Mosley have shown an ability to know down open shots in a limited capacity.

What this team is sorely lacking is guys that can put it on the floor and get to the rim consistently. Mac obviously can do it but that’s about it (Akinjo has well-documented issues finishing at the rim right now). We desperately need another guy that take guys off the bounce consistently. I prefer Gardner but this kid appears to have an ability to get to the hoop as well.

[calhoya]

Feb 2, 2019 15:17:46 GMT -5 johnnysnowplow said:

Feb 2, 2019 14:27:46 GMT -5 calhoya said:

This team needs perimeter shooters for next year either at the wing position or SG. Last year's loss of Derrickson and next year losing Govan has taken two very consistent outside shooters. For all the complaints about Govan's defense, it will be next year before everyone truly realizes what an asset he is as a big who can step out and nail the 3, score in the paint and make the proper pass. I have also noticed that his defense is better in spurts when he seems to be rested and focused.

I don’t really agree with this premise. I, of course, agree with the premise that outside shooters are the most necessary part of basketball these days. But we’ve got many guys who can knock down perimeter shots. Akinjo, Mac, Yurt, Blair, Carter are clearly competent shooters. Pickett obviously has the range, even if hes inconsistent. Leblanc and recently Mosley have shown an ability to know down open shots in a limited capacity.

What this team is sorely lacking is guys that can put it on the floor and get to the rim consistently. Mac obviously can do it but that’s about it (Akinjo has well-documented issues finishing at the rim right now). We desperately need another guy that take guys off the bounce consistently. I prefer Gardner but this kid appears to have an ability to get to the hoop as well.

Yes of course we need that person who can create his own shot. I do not agree that we have enough outside shooters though. McClung and Akinjo are short guards and it is not going to be that easy to get the shot off when playing against a team with more length. Pickett is one I root for but his shot has not been consistent this year. Same is true for Blair and Carter is still very unproven outside of a very small sample size. With at least 2 open scholarships it should be possible to add a pure shooter with some length and the type of player you are describing like Gardner.

[johnnysnowplow]

Feb 2, 2019 16:50:01 GMT -5 calhoya said:

Feb 2, 2019 15:17:46 GMT -5 johnnysnowplow said:

I don’t really agree with this premise. I, of course, agree with the premise that outside shooters are the most necessary part of basketball these days. But we’ve got many guys who can knock down perimeter shots. Akinjo, Mac, Yurt, Blair, Carter are clearly competent shooters. Pickett obviously has the range, even if hes inconsistent. Leblanc and recently Mosley have shown an ability to know down open shots in a limited capacity.

What this team is sorely lacking is guys that can put it on the floor and get to the rim consistently. Mac obviously can do it but that’s about it (Akinjo has well-documented issues finishing at the rim right now). We desperately need another guy that take guys off the bounce consistently. I prefer Gardner but this kid appears to have an ability to get to the hoop as well.

Yes of course we need that person who can create his own shot. I do not agree that we have enough outside shooters though. McClung and Akinjo are short guards and it is not going to be that easy to get the shot off when playing against a team with more length. Pickett is one I root for but his shot has not been consistent this year. Same is true for Blair and Carter is still very unproven outside of a very small sample size. With at least 2 open scholarships it should be possible to add a pure shooter with some length and the type of player you are describing like Gardner.

I think we’re mostly on the same page in that we can add a shooter and slasher still. I just feel like we have more outside threats right now than we’ve had in a long time. It’s a bit lazy to throw out the old “short guards can’t shoot over length” narrative. Short guards shouldn’t be taking contested shots like that anyway. Frankly no one should be taking contested shots where they need to “shoot over” people. Both Mac and James have already proven that they can create enough space for themselves to be able to get good looks regardless of the “length” of the other team.

We have shooters. We need slashers.

[nbhoya]

I wish we could limit these threads to recruiting news rather than dialogue about whether we need a top 100 player. Folks, get a grip.

[johnnysnowplow]

Feb 2, 2019 17:00:26 GMT -5 nbhoya said:

I wish we could limit these threads to recruiting news rather than dialogue about whether we need a top 100 player. Folks, get a grip.

Dude it’s a message board intended to create dialogue. This is so tame compared to some of the threads that get derailed. We all have to sift through discussions we don’t care about at time. Go take a lap and regroup.