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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2018 19:37:51 GMT -5
But you just said you kept your doctor... Anyways It’s impossible to find a human on this planet who hasn’t told a lie, but 4,229 lies in less than 2 years is the same as 1 in 8 years? A President telling over 4,000 lies in a year and a half is “nothing new”. Is that your Sunday hot take? Thank you for summarizing how disingenuous this argument is. Your point was to the big lie... and that health care canard was a whopper... Your original response was to SS, not me..My point was highlighting disingenuous nature of your arguments. You often seem to forget that Donald Trump is President and the top official in the party you represent. There is no comparison with Trump and Obama, or any other President, when its comes to lying. He is the standard bearer. If lying upsets you then you should have a problem with that, but you don't. Instead you defend it like a bunch of other things he does that would clearly upset you if a Dem did it.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2018 19:38:03 GMT -5
Here's one for the both sides crowd that actually fits...
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Post by tashoya on Aug 19, 2018 23:23:03 GMT -5
The interesting part is those that are still aggrieved about President Obama lying about healthcare don't give a rip about the, literally, thousands of lies told by the current President. In fact, they don't even seem bothered by this one's lies because he's not President Obama. There are only a handful of reasons that I can think of as to why that may be the case.
Didn't people vote for Trump to "drain the swamp" and because he wasn't a Washington "insider" and was beholden to no "special interests" and because he was a regular guy voice amongst politicians? Well, he's overfilled the swamp, is beholden to, at minimum, one foreign power, lines his and his family's pockets with "governmental" money and has shat up the "regular" person at unprecedented levels. Yet, those that voted for him don't seem to mind. Again, there are only a handful of reasons why that may be the case as far as I can tell.
I can respect that a person like Ed is so passionate about abortion that everything else pales in comparison. To a degree. That degree has been surpassed for me long ago. I can't speak for Ed, nor would I. I can envision being so committed to one issue (though I'm not) that I'd overlook some other stuff so that's as close as I can get to understanding his thinking. But most Trump people are not like Ed. They aren't as passionate about one issue that Trump, likely, has the power to change drastically. Most are still clinging to the "regular guy" thing and he's not Obama. He's not a regular guy and he's not Obama in horrific ways, yet still they cling. That narrows down the reasons as to why they would to a very short list.
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Post by SSHoya on Aug 20, 2018 5:23:40 GMT -5
Your point was to the big lie... and that health care canard was a whopper... Your original response was to SS, not me..My point was highlighting disingenuous nature of your arguments. You often seem to forget that Donald Trump is President and the top official in the party you represent. There is no comparison with Trump and Obama, or any other President, when its comes to lying. He is the standard bearer. If lying upsets you then you should have a problem with that, but you don't. Instead you defend it like a bunch of other things he does that would clearly upset you if a Dem did it. In Elvadoland, "Truth isn't truth." To compare Obama's one liner about the ACA with the continuing course of conduct by pathological liar Trump is ludicrous.
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Post by SSHoya on Aug 20, 2018 5:36:51 GMT -5
Your Republican Party. Eastern Shore of MD and the Delmarva Peninsula is Trumpland. Keeping voting for Your Republican Party!! Changes to a foreign-worker visa program have left businesses like Russell Hall without the seasonal laborers — mostly from Mexico — who help drive Maryland’s signature industry. About a third of picking jobs remain unfilled across the Eastern Shore this summer, as few Americans have responded to openings and Mexican laborers are stranded at home without permission to come here to work. The situation illustrates a general unwillingness among U.S. workers to perform certain kinds of labor, some of the business owners here in Dorchester County say. It also demonstrates how President Trump’s “America First” policies have not necessarily helped those workers or small-business owners but instead have dealt them a new economic reality. www.washingtonpost.com/news/local/wp/2018/08/17/feature/trump-changed-a-seasonal-worker-program-now-marylands-crab-houses-are-losing-business/?utm_term=.7cb3440f6c1d
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Post by SSHoya on Aug 20, 2018 9:19:13 GMT -5
The "best people" of Your Republican Party. Funny how white nationalists and their supporters have an affinity for the Trumpist Republican Party. I guess it's just a coincidence. Stephen Miller is also a Duke grad -- funny how Duke keeps popping up as well. . . A White House speechwriter for President Trump was terminated last week after revelations that he had spoken at a conference attended by well-known white nationalists, according to three people familiar with the decision who were not authorized to speak publicly. Darren Beattie, who was a visiting instructor at Duke University before he joined the White House speechwriting team, was fired Friday after a media inquiry about his appearance at the 2016 H.L. Mencken Club conference, where Beattie spoke on a panel alongside Peter Brimelow. Brimelow, founder of the anti-immigrant website Vdare.com, is a “white nationalist” and “regularly publishes works by white supremacists, anti-Semites, and others on the radical right,” according to the Southern Poverty Law Center, an advocacy group that tracks extremists. www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-speechwriter-fired-amid-scrutiny-of-appearance-with-white-nationalists/2018/08/19/f5051b52-a3eb-11e8-a656-943eefab5daf_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-more-top-stories_trumpspeechwriter-5pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory-ans&utm_term=.2168cc335b0e
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2018 9:53:21 GMT -5
Your original response was to SS, not me..My point was highlighting disingenuous nature of your arguments. You often seem to forget that Donald Trump is President and the top official in the party you represent. There is no comparison with Trump and Obama, or any other President, when its comes to lying. He is the standard bearer. If lying upsets you then you should have a problem with that, but you don't. Instead you defend it like a bunch of other things he does that would clearly upset you if a Dem did it. In Elvadoland, "Truth isn't truth." To compare Obama's one liner about the ACA with the continuing course of conduct by pathological liar Trump is ludicrous. Speed limit is 60 and everyone is going 75. Trump jumps on the highway drunk, road raging, going 110, causing accidents, and flipping off the other drivers. See, everybody speeds.... Substitute any random Dem's name into any headline we post and imagine the reaction from the right. Do you think they would be whistling past the fact the former campaign manager for the President is on trial for fraud, or the fact his personal lawyer is under investigation for the same crime? They started a thread claiming the flooding in Louisiana where 13 people died was Obama's Katrina and then over 1,000 die in Puerto Rico and it's a non story on the right.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2018 10:21:48 GMT -5
"there are no means to victory that are not justified by victory."
Tell me how this doesn't apply to Republicans as a whole?
-They are willing to dismiss the constant abuse of tax payer dollars from cabinet members. -The White House acting like QVC and profiting off the Trump Presidency. -Mar- a -Lago members running the VA because they paid 200k to be members of a country club. -The constant smearing of American patriots from this White House as enemies of the people they have sought to protect their whole lives. -Declaring Patriots aren't patriots because they were captured. -Declaring a Mexican American judge not being able to rule on a fraud case because he's Mexican. -The constant smearing of immigrants as criminals. -A consistent stream of lies and absurd behavior on a daily basis. -This Government making a mockery of the handling of classified information and handing out security clearances like candy. -Racism, bigotry, discrimination, criminal activity, an unbelievable level of incompetence, ballooning deficits, and 1,500 dead in Puerto Rico.
The only thing that they have been consistent on is making sure their wealthy donors get a tax cut so they can keep funding their campaigns...
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Post by Hoyas4Ever on Aug 20, 2018 11:55:05 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2018 12:09:23 GMT -5
Totally normal that the President and First Lady got popular on the right by pushing an insane and mildly racist conspiracy theory despite all available evidence to the contrary...
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Post by Hoyas4Ever on Aug 20, 2018 13:16:47 GMT -5
Totally normal that the President and First Lady got popular on the right by pushing an insane and mildly racist conspiracy theory despite all available evidence... I can smell the sarcasm in your post...
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Post by SSHoya on Aug 20, 2018 18:32:59 GMT -5
Can't wait for the full depth and breadth of Your Republican Party's hypocrisy to be on display during the Kavanaugh confirmation hearing. Fully expect a slurping by the vile and corrupt GOPers who have abdicated their Constitutional responsibilities: “I am mindful of the need for respect for the Office of the President. But in my view, given what we know, the interests of the Office of the President would be best served by our gathering the full facts regarding the actions of this President so that the Congress can decide whether the interests of the Presidency would be best served by having a new President.” Of Clinton’s actions, Kavanaugh tells Starr: “He has lied to his aides. He has lied to the American people. He has tried to disgrace you and the Office with a sustained propaganda campaign that would make Nixon blush.” www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2018/08/20/brett-kavanaughs-explicit-clinton-memo-shows-how-much-he-despised-president-accused-behaving-badly/?utm_term=.6bb0d495d58d
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Post by SSHoya on Aug 21, 2018 5:17:12 GMT -5
The "best people" - the 30% are the ignorant (conned by the Grifter-in-Chief) and deplorables (those who think his crude, vile and abhorrent behavior equals "toughness"). Oh, and the racist element in the American electorate which is coextensive with the Republican Party. The new Monmouth University Poll found that only 30 percent of respondents believe that Trump has hired the "best people," with 58 percent saying he has not. Twelve percent of those polled responded either that the president’s hiring record was mixed or that they didn’t know about his hiring record. Respondents held a dim view of how the Trump White House operates in general — just 19 percent said that they were “very confident” in the way that the president’s advisers and staff are handling their jobs, with 23 percent saying they were “somewhat confident” in White House personnel. More than half said they were "not too confident" or "not at all confident." www.politico.com/story/2018/08/20/trump-poll-administration-staff-turnover-789604
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2018 5:57:54 GMT -5
OK? Well you might say, ‘Well, that’s not my job, my job is to do journalism. My job is to be First Amendment. My job is to go out and dig and investigate, and I should do anything I want to do because I’m a journalist.’ So let’s get that notion out of your head. OK?”
"Snowflake Liberals are stifling free speech on campus!!"
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Post by SSHoya on Aug 21, 2018 8:21:27 GMT -5
That is where we come back to what Trump is really afraid will happen if he answers Mueller’s questions. His lawyers have certainly seen what has happened when Trump has been deposed before, and the results weren’t pretty. In one case, he was forced 30 separate times to admit lies he had told. In another deposition, regarding the fraud lawsuit over Trump University, Trump claimed to be unable to remember so many specific things that the opposing lawyer eventually asked him whether he remembered saying he has one of the world’s best memories. Trump said he couldn’t remember saying that. (In fact, he had.) www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2018/08/21/a-perjury-trap-isnt-the-real-reason-trump-wont-answer-muellers-questions/?utm_term=.9c16beed1c4a
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Post by SSHoya on Aug 21, 2018 10:38:40 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2018 15:56:14 GMT -5
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Post by SSHoya on Aug 21, 2018 17:05:48 GMT -5
Your Republican Party. Enjoy your white supremacists, racists Republicans. The publisher of a website that serves as a platform for white nationalism was a guest last weekend at the home of President Trump’s top economic adviser, Larry Kudlow. Peter Brimelow attended the gathering, a birthday bash for Kudlow, one day after a White House speechwriter was dismissed in the wake of revelations that he had spoken alongside Brimelow on a 2016 panel. Brimelow, 70, was once a well-connected figure in mainstream conservative circles, writing for Dow Jones and National Review. But over the past two decades, he has become a zealous promoter of white-identity politics on Vdare.com, the anti-immigration website that he founded in 1999. While Brimelow has long personally rejected the label of “white nationalist,” he acknowledged to the Harvard Crimson in 2016 that his website does “certainly publish a few writers I would regard as ‘white nationalist’ in that they stand up for whites just as Zionists, black nationalists do for Jews, blacks, etc.” www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-adviser-larry-kudlow-hosted-publisher-of-white-nationalists-at-his-home/2018/08/21/f418a76c-a55e-11e8-8fac-12e98c13528d_story.html?utm_term=.482107815b72
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2018 18:30:21 GMT -5
The first two members of Congress to endorse President Donald Trump – New York’s Chris Collins and California’s Duncan Hunter – are both under indictment.
I'm starting to see a pattern here...
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Post by hoyarooter on Aug 21, 2018 19:14:58 GMT -5
OK? Well you might say, ‘Well, that’s not my job, my job is to do journalism. My job is to be First Amendment. My job is to go out and dig and investigate, and I should do anything I want to do because I’m a journalist.’ So let’s get that notion out of your head. OK?”"Snowflake Liberals are stifling free speech on campus!!" *kisses fingers* "Liberty University" - exceedingly unwell named.
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