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Post by FrazierFanatic on Jan 10, 2018 19:58:10 GMT -5
Looks promising. Yes, hopefully he gets at least a little more commitment.
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Post by hoyawatcher on Jan 27, 2018 14:49:13 GMT -5
Potentially good hire. Track record in building programs and doing it at both low end and BE levels. Academic restrictions will be new to him at GU especially as he seems to have a reputation for international players. That will be interesting to watch. Also who he gets for assistants. No one so far.
Folks have already mentioned whether he is getting any additional resources. One additional thing to watch will be what flexibility he has to work the roster. Part of his job is to coach the players he has and put them in better positions. But part is to improve the roster and there will be some who don't fit or don't want to fit with the new program. IMHO one thing Arlissa was not good at was managing her roster. Some of that was institutional restrictions and some was her own. Curious to see what the new guy does.
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Post by hilltophoya on Jan 28, 2018 12:39:01 GMT -5
Also who he gets for assistants. No one so far. I have no idea if it is significant, but I did notice that when they edited the roster to remove Arlisa and Justin and add Rens, they left Louella on the roster.
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Post by hoyawatcher on Feb 4, 2018 0:07:23 GMT -5
I wonder if Mihm and Harrington were on scholarship? I am too far removed to know. That would open up 2 slots to see how our new guy can recruit - though likely a transfer at this point.
Interesting that Eiche is still listed as a GS. Not sure if that means she is still eligible for next year or not.
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Post by hilltophoya on Feb 4, 2018 12:46:34 GMT -5
I wonder if Mihm and Harrington were on scholarship? I am too far removed to know. That would open up 2 slots to see how our new guy can recruit - though likely a transfer at this point. Interesting that Eiche is still listed as a GS. Not sure if that means she is still eligible for next year or not. I'm not sure why Eiche or Meghan Richard are still listed. I'm fairly sure that both have exhausted their eligibility having played four years of NCAA VB. Both were honored on Senior Night.
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Post by hoyawatcher on Feb 8, 2018 10:36:35 GMT -5
I don't know who the 2 new players are (never announced that I can find) but the roster tells me our new guy better be looking everywhere for a couple of DS types to transfer in. In reality he needs one or 2 more transfers to run efficient practices as well.
Plus another assistant coach as well. Those discussions will be interesting as living in DC is not cheap and assistant coaches generally are not paid well.
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Post by hilltophoya on Feb 12, 2018 8:54:06 GMT -5
It appears that Coach Rens received his first commitment as a Hoya: Brittney Wells (2019) is a 6'3" MB from Wheaton Academy in Chicago (Chicago Elite). Wells was on Prepvolleyball's "watchlist" for the top 50 junior recruits (which included 65 MB), but she didn't make the final list (which included 16 MB). Congratulations, Brittney and Coach Rens.
For that class, Wells joins 5'10" Setter, Madison Dowd from Marion HS in Detroit (Legacy Volleyball Club) who committed last fall.
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Post by hoyawatcher on Feb 27, 2018 9:37:24 GMT -5
I was hoping he would have at least one Assistant Coach in his back pocket when he took the job but looks like not. And best I can tell he ran MES with just him and a student assistant. So he is used to lack of resources. Somehow he was able to recruit half his roster from overseas - Eastern Europe, Brazil and even Fiji. Not sure if he traveled there or just looked at film. Assuming film. But going forward will be really interesting to see if Georgetown will allow international students/volleyball players into school. Since that seems his strong suit I hope so.
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Post by hilltophoya on Feb 27, 2018 15:37:07 GMT -5
I was hoping he would have at least one Assistant Coach in his back pocket when he took the job but looks like not. And best I can tell he ran MES with just him and a student assistant. So he is used to lack of resources. Somehow he was able to recruit half his roster from overseas - Eastern Europe, Brazil and even Fiji. Not sure if he traveled there or just looked at film. Assuming film. But going forward will be really interesting to see if Georgetown will allow international students/volleyball players into school. Since that seems his strong suit I hope so. Looks like he went international at MES but looking back at his time at Pitt he stayed onshore. My guess is he's staying onshore as he already has two committed athletes and both are from the US. One is a '19 MB from Chicago and it looks like he got another MB, this time in the '18 class from New York. I sure hope he doesn't plan on coaching alone. Far too much to do for one coach if you want to compete in the Big East. Need somebody recruiting and another working with the current players. Most legit programs have a director of operations and a volunteer assistant as well. Where are you getting the information about the 2018 MB from New York? I can't imagine he's planning to run things alone. While the UMES website leaves a lot to be desired, with a little digging it certainly seems he had one or more ACs during his second stint there. The bio of the current "interim" HC says that Rens hired him as AC for the 2017 season. He also had at least one AC in 2016; two ACs and a student assistant in 2015; and two ACs in 2014. I'm sure he's working on hiring one or more ACs.
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Post by hilltophoya on Mar 15, 2018 7:29:38 GMT -5
Anyone know when they start their spring season period? When practices and scrimmages start? I'm pretty sure they started practices at the beginning of this week. I'm told that they'll play the following dates: April 7 @ Georgetown April 14 @ George Mason April 21 @ George Washington
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Post by hilltophoya on Mar 21, 2018 11:05:56 GMT -5
They've announced the Hoya Volleyball camps for this summer. Two things I noticed right away: 1) they have increased the number of camp/tournament days from 10 to 15 this year; and 2) the descriptions of the camps clearly suggest an intention to focus on older, more skilled players. Last year, one 5-day camp was for 8-12 year-olds and one 5-day camp was for 11-18 (all skill levels). This year, the first camp (two days only) is for ages 8-11, but the rest of the camps are for older girls looking to play in college (one for 14-18; one for 15-18; and high school team camps). They seem to have omitted the 12-13 year-old group, which I think is a mistake - they should include them in the first camp. Oh, and a third thing: the camps also allow boys. I don't think they had boys in the past. It'll be interesting to see how well attended the camps are and whether any prospects emerge. P.S. - That's a fun picture that they're using; hopefully we'll see more of those next season.
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Post by vbwatcher on Mar 28, 2018 19:43:40 GMT -5
Just saw the schedule for the spring tournament on April 7th see below:
Time Court 1 Court 2
900am Georgetown vs UMBC American vs Morgan State 1100am Georgetown vs Morgan State UMBC vs American 1230pm Lunch 130pm Georgetown vs American Morgan State vs UMBC
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Post by hilltophoya on Apr 6, 2018 11:08:11 GMT -5
Just saw the schedule for the spring tournament on April 7th see below: Time Court 1 Court 2 900am Georgetown vs UMBC American vs Morgan State 1100am Georgetown vs Morgan State UMBC vs American 1230pm Lunch 130pm Georgetown vs American Morgan State vs UMBC If anyone will be going this weekend, please report back and let us know how things look.
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Post by hilltophoya on Apr 12, 2018 14:19:08 GMT -5
Just in case someone is going to be in the vicinity of George Mason on Sunday (4/15), there are going to be scrimmages there with the Hoyas (RPI 217), George Mason (276), William & Mary (283) and Navy (78). I believe this is the schedule:
9:00am Mason vs. Georgetown
10:30am W&M vs. Navy
12:00pm Mason vs. Navy
1:30pm Georgetown vs. Navy
3:00pm Georgetown vs. W&M
4:30pm Mason vs. W&M
If anyone happens to go, please report back about how the team looks.
If I'm correctly understanding the information I got about last weekend, I think the Hoyas went 2-1 with wins over Morgan State (316) (2-0) and UMES (229) (2-1), and a 1-2 loss to UMBC (240). I understand UMES (Coach Rens' previous school) was a last-minute fill-in for American.
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Post by hilltophoya on Apr 20, 2018 7:16:30 GMT -5
The Hoyas are playing at George Washington tomorrow (4/21). The schedule:
9:00 vs. UMBC 11:00 vs. George Washington 12:00 vs. George Mason
Also playing at GW will be Navy, Villanova and American, but Georgetown is not scheduled to play any of them.
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Post by volleyballjack on Jun 27, 2018 6:10:43 GMT -5
Looking forward to seeing what Coach Rens does with Georgetown! Hoping for a Big East title in near future! Also hope administration puts $$ into marketing team to campus and community. A dedicated social media person (business major??) would be very beneficial for more exposure.
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Post by volleyballjack on Jul 1, 2018 13:21:55 GMT -5
Looking forward to seeing what Coach Rens does with Georgetown! Hoping for a Big East title in near future! Also hope administration puts $$ into marketing team to campus and community. A dedicated social media person (business major??) would be very beneficial for more exposure. I wouldnt count on it. No info on incoming recruits, spring play or 2018 schedule. Zero updates on their social media sites. Only 1 assistant coach hired. Looks like things have actually become worse. Rens ran off some players and now only has 1 setter on the roster. Going to be difficult to practice and have meaningful scrimmage time with only 1 setter. Coach Rens has a TERRIBLE reputation amongst college coaches and club coaches. Georgetown almost got the new hire right but picked the worst possible candidate. How do you only have 1 assistant coach hired by the end of June when the head coach was hired in January? Answer? Nobody wants to work for Rens. Terrible, terrible hire. If Georgetown ever begins to care about volleyball and actual provide the resources to be competitive in the Big East, I suspect Mr. Rens wont be around to see it. Athletic department continues to treat this sport as a redheaded stepchild. A casual observer can see this program isnt run like a D1 program at most universities.
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Post by volleyballjack on Jul 1, 2018 13:26:09 GMT -5
Still, a couple of key signings and the team can compete in the Big East, don't you think? Why are you so negative about it? It seems you have some history. But definitely agree there needs to be more action on social media. And definitely agree that the administration needs to pay the assistants so assistants want to be a part of the program. After all, it's GEORGETOWN, who wouldn't want to recruit a kid to go there? With a full complement of scholarships, this team could be on its way up in the Big East in a hurry. They just need that support you speak of. I have not heard the terrible reputation of Rens that you speak of ever, anywhere. So i sure hope you are proven wrong there.
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Post by volleyballjack on Jul 2, 2018 13:30:56 GMT -5
Still, a couple of key signings and the team can compete in the Big East, don't you think? Why are you so negative about it? It seems you have some history. But definitely agree there needs to be more action on social media. And definitely agree that the administration needs to pay the assistants so assistants want to be a part of the program. After all, it's GEORGETOWN, who wouldn't want to recruit a kid to go there? With a full complement of scholarships, this team could be on its way up in the Big East in a hurry. They just need that support you speak of. I have not heard the terrible reputation of Rens that you speak of ever, anywhere. So i sure hope you are proven wrong there. You arent a college coach I take it. I will only offer you this. Rens has been the head coach since January its now July. He lost both assistants from Arlisa's staff, hes hired one coach that really doesnt have much coaching experience let alone college coaching experience. He hasnt filled the second assistant position. Hes dangerously close to not having a full staff when the kids report for camp.The reason? His reputation is horrible, people dont want to work for him. Period. Look at his track record with assistant coaches at his other head coaching positions. Why hasnt he brought any former assistants with him? Normally, head coaches have a loyal group of assistant coaches willing to work for them again, or at least help and find coaches for them. And, I offer this quote from a well known D1 head coach, "Toby is known as the biggest ***hole in the coaching game" I'm sure not here to argue with a Hoya fan, but you do have a lot of anonymous sources in your opinions. And, let's face it, there are lots and lots of ***holes in the college coaching world. Subjective stuff there. How about we give the guy a chance with his not-yet-fully-funded program. And how would you know what's going on behind the scenes? I'm going to guess there is a lot more happening then you are aware of. Unless of course you are a disgruntled college coach who didn't get the job he wanted I remain positive and I think things will be changing very soon. I hope you are at the games and maybe I'll spot you in the crowd cheering for a reinvigorated team. Go Hoyas! (I AM really glad you care about the program. And you are right, I am not a college coach. Just an optimist who hopes to stay that way for a long while.)
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Post by reformation on Jul 9, 2018 14:43:45 GMT -5
Would have to think that economics were a driving factor in selecting the VB coach. Gtwn's pattern in hiring coaches for its non marquis sports is pretty consistent-get young, least expensive coach with whatever min standards sport specific apply-also provide preference to current Gtwn assistants if possible. The new tennis coach, e.g., is a current student in Gtwn's MBA program, though a very accomplished collegiate and jr player. She is also a current asst coach. The new women's rowing coach has limited coaching/competitive credentials compared to those who have head coaching jobs at the programs we compete with. All of these coaches might be great or not, its hard to say. Probably could say the same for women's BB and track to some extent. Men's rowing a few years ago hired an established asst from an elite program, but the position salary is heavily funded from endowment + alum donations, so we searched for a much more top tier candidate for that position.
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