Fr. Pat gets fired....

[hoya95]

...by Paul Ryan. Apparently he was forced out for mentioning the poor during tax cut time and for inviting a Muslim to give the opening prayer one day. I suspect this thread will go well.

thehill.com/homenews/house/385035-house-chaplain-forced-out-by-ryan

[SSHoya]

"According to Congress' own nonpartisan analysis, the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act bills recently passed by the House and the Senate raise taxes on the poor and cut taxes on the rich, violating basic principles of justice," wrote Bishop Dewane. "Congress has proposed a web of wide-ranging and complex changes to the tax code, yet is approaching the process at a pace that makes it difficult even for experts in the impacted areas to analyze effects."

www.usccb.org/news/2017/17-243.cfm

We recognize that Friday evening's Executive Order has generated fear and untold anxiety among refugees, immigrants, and others throughout the faith community in the United States. In response to the Order, we join with other faith leaders to stand in solidarity again with those affected by this order, especially our Muslim sisters and brothers. We also express our firm resolution that the Order's stated preference for "religious minorities" should be applied to protect not only Christians where they are a minority, but all religious minorities who suffer persecution, which includes Yazidis, Shia Muslims in majority Sunni areas, and vice versa. While we also recognize that the United States government has a duty to protect the security of its people, we must nevertheless employ means that respect both religious liberty for all, and the urgency of protecting the lives of those who desperately flee violence and persecution. It is our conviction as followers of the Lord Jesus that welcoming the stranger and protecting the vulnerable lie at the core of the Christian life. And so, to our Muslim brothers and sisters and all people of faith, we stand with you and welcome you.

www.usccb.org/news/2017/17-031.cfm

www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/ryan-dismissed-house-chaplain-leaving-lawmakers-questioning-rational/2018/04/26/ec2334ee-4976-11e8-8b5a-3b1697adcc2a_story.html?hpid=hp_regional-hp-cards_rhp-card-politics%3Ahomepage%2Fcard

[Nevada Hoya]

I saw Father Pat (and even talked with him once) at the West Coast Conference Mass during the basketball WCC championships. He was there to root for Gonzaga, his alma mater. Besides being the House chaplain, he also taught a course or two at Georgetown. At one of the Masses he gave the homily. I think it was this time he mentioned the Hoya-China conflict during the Hoyas tour several years ago. He was essentially saying that it was poor sportsmanship on the part of Georgetown. After the Mass I corrected him and told him the rest of the story.

EDIT: Father Pat went to Gonzaga for a masters. His undergraduate degree was from Claremont, where he still, I believes, holds some track or cross country records.

[TC]

Apr 26, 2018 14:04:09 GMT -5 hoya95 said:

Apparently he was forced out for mentioning the poor during tax cut time and for inviting a Muslim to give the opening prayer one day.

www.politico.com/story/2018/04/26/house-chaplain-ousted-paul-ryan-556027

“As legislation on taxes continues to be debated this week and next, may all Members be mindful that the institutions and structures of our great nation guarantee the opportunities that have allowed some to achieve great success, while others continue to struggle,” Conroy said in the prayer.

“May their efforts these days guarantee that there are not winners and losers under new tax laws, but benefits balanced and shared by all Americans.”

Someone complained about that? That's not even mentioning the poor.

[TC]

www.americamagazine.org/politics-society/2018/04/26/report-house-chaplain-jesuit-priest-was-forced-out-speaker-paul-ryan

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"benefits shared by all Americans"

How dare he.....

[SSHoya]

Fully expect to have a hypocritical Christian evangelical appointed to cater to the Trump base.

Rep. Emanuel Cleaver II (D-Mo.), a Methodist minister who has been asked to participate in the search for a new chaplain, said Ryan’s office had told him “pastoral care issues” were behind the ouster, but he called that an “excuse.” Part of the real reason, Cleaver said, are frictions between Conroy and conservative evangelical members.

www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/ryan-seeks-to-defend-ouster-of-house-chaplain-as-members-question-his-motives/2018/04/27/70937e8a-4a0f-11e8-827e-190efaf1f1ee_story.html?utm_term=.af4fcf8e102c

[TC]

...and House Republicans won't give an explanation as to why:

www.americamagazine.org/politics-society/2018/04/27/house-republicans-rebuff-investigation-firing-jesuit-chaplain

Rep. Mark Walker on a new chaplain: “I’m looking for somebody who has a little age, that has adult children, that kind of can connect with the bulk of the body here."

In other words, Catholic Priests need not apply.

[kota]

Just a quick message to say I am livid over this firing. God will send these republicans to Hell for sure.

[Nevada Hoya]

So it's political to be an advocate for the poor?!

[hoyarooter]

Apr 27, 2018 12:33:52 GMT -5 TC said:

...and House Republicans won't give an explanation as to why:

www.americamagazine.org/politics-society/2018/04/27/house-republicans-rebuff-investigation-firing-jesuit-chaplain

Rep. Mark Walker on a new chaplain: “I’m looking for somebody who has a little age, that has adult children, that kind of can connect with the bulk of the body here."

In other words, Catholic Priests need not apply.

I suggest Sister Jean. She has thousands of children. And she definitely has a little age.

[tashoya]

How dare someone pray for equal treatment of all people. Pretty much tells you all you need to know about those with power in the current GOP.

[SSHoya]

Only in this perverted time could a priest lose his job after committing the sin of crying out for justice for the poor. But then, look around: Everywhere are the signs of a rising kleptocracy. The $1.5 trillion tax cut did make winners of corporations and the wealthy. And actions since then show that the Trump administration is making losers of the poor.

www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-poor-dont-have-a-prayer-in-todays-washington/2018/04/27/70f52bd8-4a43-11e8-8b5a-3b1697adcc2a_story.html?utm_term=.3e99f0182279

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Catholicism only has resonance in Republican politics if abortion is the issue.

[DFW HOYA]

Apr 28, 2018 11:25:26 GMT -5 @cam said:

Catholicism only has resonance in Republican politics if abortion is the issue.

It is also said that Catholicism has resonance in Democratic politics if abortion is not the issue.

Neither party has a monopoly on resonance.

[TC]

Apr 28, 2018 12:07:03 GMT -5 DFW HOYA said:

Apr 28, 2018 11:25:26 GMT -5 @cam said:

Catholicism only has resonance in Republican politics if abortion is the issue.

It is also said that Catholicism has resonance in Democratic politics if abortion is not the issue.

Neither party has a monopoly on resonance.

Democrats would not fire a chaplain for antiseptic prayers about the value of human life. You're promoting false equivalence.

[TC]

Father Pat fights the power!

www.washingtonpost.com/politics/house-chaplain-rescinds-resignation-after-furor-over-his-ouster-by-ryan/2018/05/03/b770de7c-4f07-11e8-84a0-458a1aa9ac0a_story.html

[SSHoya]

Conroy and his defenders see anti-Catholic bias in his treatment. The priest thinks it was his theology that nearly cost him his job, according to his attorney, Daniel Marchese. In an interview Friday, Marchese said that he asked Conroy, whom he met when he was a Georgetown University student and Conroy was the chaplain there: “What do you really want?”

www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/house-chaplain-sees-anti-catholic-bias-in-his-treatment/2018/05/04/0898cee6-4fb6-11e8-b725-92c89fe3ca4c_story.html?utm_term=.aa44dc7c163b