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Post by centercourt400s on Jan 2, 2018 23:41:18 GMT -5
25 pts, 12 boards and 5 assists vs DePaul.
Jessie is getting it done this season. Every skilled big man in the country should want to come and play for Ewing.
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Post by mfk24 on Jan 2, 2018 23:51:45 GMT -5
Thought he did a really god job passing out of the double or spinning away for the hook shot. DePaul has some big bodies, not as skilled but definite size and he was still able to score effectively. He put the opposing bigs in foul trouble too which will be helpful against a team like Seton Hall which seems to have less front court depth than we do.
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Post by dchoya72 on Jan 3, 2018 7:46:47 GMT -5
Last year, I thought he had a problem with his footwork, around the basket. That appears to have improved significantly. He has improved overall tremendously! Thank coaches, and Jesse for accepting and working with the coaches.
I wonder what Patrick would have done with LJ Peak....he was improving, but not a finished product when he left.
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Post by dchoya72 on Jan 3, 2018 7:50:47 GMT -5
Govan and Derrickson are playing great together. They are playing off each others strengths. I am also glad J. Blair is rising to the occassion, he's impressive.
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Post by dchoya72 on Jan 3, 2018 7:55:31 GMT -5
Jessie is developing into the best big man weve had in quite a while...better than Henry Sims, who I liked!
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Post by bostonfan on Jan 3, 2018 9:20:30 GMT -5
Last year, I thought he had a problem with his footwork, around the basket. That appears to have improved significantly. He has improved overall tremendously! Thank coaches, and Jesse for accepting and working with the coaches. I wonder what Patrick would have done with LJ Peak....he was improving, but not a finished product when he left. Last night was an impressive performance by Jessie. I would not say that he dominated the game, but he consistently made the right play and when the night was over he had a great looking stat line, points, rebounds and assists. He took a couple of threes, not sure if he made any of them, but he certainly is not focused on taking threes and is playing to his strengths and taking advantage of the mismatches when they occur. He has that 3 point range and if he is left alone he will make those shots. Great playing and smart coaching!!!!These types of performances will make him attractive to the NBA
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Post by vv83 on Jan 3, 2018 12:11:22 GMT -5
Last year, I thought he had a problem with his footwork, around the basket. That appears to have improved significantly. He has improved overall tremendously! Thank coaches, and Jesse for accepting and working with the coaches. I wonder what Patrick would have done with LJ Peak....he was improving, but not a finished product when he left. Last night was an impressive performance by Jessie. I would not say that he dominated the game, but he consistently made the right play and when the night was over he had a great looking stat line, points, rebounds and assists. He took a couple of threes, not sure if he made any of them, but he certainly is not focused on taking threes and is playing to his strengths and taking advantage of the mismatches when they occur. He has that 3 point range and if he is left alone he will make those shots. Great playing and smart coaching!!!!These types of performances will make him attractive to the NBA It really is impressive how much both Govan and Derrickson have improved this season. They both showed flashes of this kind of talent, but never delivered consistently. They are grinding out strong games most every time out, with defenses fully focused on stopping them. Both deserve a lot of credit for the work they have put in, and the mental discipline they are showing in their play. But Ewing has done a really good coaching job as well. If he can eventually help guards improve anywhere near this much/this quickly, the program has a bright future.
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Post by Ranch Dressing on Jan 3, 2018 12:39:26 GMT -5
Agreed - impressive development in both Jessie and Marcus this year. Most of the credit should rightfully go to the players for their dedication and hard work, but I think Patrick has helped them develop more than JT3 would have.
Very happy.
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Post by ewingitrust on Jan 3, 2018 17:34:46 GMT -5
It's apparent that Govan is not slowing down this season. It's great to see his improvement. I hope he stays...but if he goes to the NBA after this season, we'll have every elite big man lining up to play for Coach Ewing.
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Jan 3, 2018 19:10:24 GMT -5
If Govan goes pro, we need a stud next season. Otherwise, we have no center. I don't think of Mourning, Walker or Carter as bigs.
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Post by MCIGuy on Jan 3, 2018 20:52:49 GMT -5
It's apparent that Govan is not slowing down this season. It's great to see his improvement. I hope he stays...but if he goes to the NBA after this season, we'll have every elite big man lining up to play for Coach Ewing. By that time a new NBA rule may unfortunately be in place to allow them to skip college altogether.
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Post by centercourt400s on Jan 4, 2018 16:36:35 GMT -5
Three games in and Jesse is a very impressive 13th in scoring and 2nd in rebounding in Big East conference games.
No off games in the conference however and he's going to have his hands full with Creighton. I'm confident he'll be able to produce against them though. He's been consistent all season.
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Post by sleepy on Jan 4, 2018 20:09:43 GMT -5
It's apparent that Govan is not slowing down this season. It's great to see his improvement. I hope he stays...but if he goes to the NBA after this season, we'll have every elite big man lining up to play for Coach Ewing. By that time a new NBA rule may unfortunately be in place to allow them to skip college altogether. Why would that be a bad thing though? Yea the very very top players and big men would be going to the NBA. The obvious no brainer talent, if you will. The players almost exclusively end up at Duke/UK/KU right now. Take them off the table and you will still have top big men that aren't ready to go to the NBA to recruit. The difference being that talent evaluation and development will be more important with, imo, taking away a huge advantage from the Kentucky's of the world.
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Post by michaelgrahmstylie on Jan 4, 2018 21:45:41 GMT -5
Jessie is developing into the best big man weve had in quite a while...better than Henry Sims, who I liked! Henry Simms and Jessie Govan, no comparison, IMHO.
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Post by MCIGuy on Jan 5, 2018 1:05:42 GMT -5
By that time a new NBA rule may unfortunately be in place to allow them to skip college altogether. Why would that be a bad thing though? Yea the very very top players and big men would be going to the NBA. The obvious no brainer talent, if you will. The players almost exclusively end up at Duke/UK/KU right now. Take them off the table and you will still have top big men that aren't ready to go to the NBA to recruit. The difference being that talent evaluation and development will be more important with, imo, taking away a huge advantage from the Kentucky's of the world. It's a bad thing for many reasons IMO, especially if you are an NBA fan. But as a Hoya fan also I am painfully aware that other programs swoop in and get elite recruits outside of the top four or five Blue Bloods and it would be nice if the Hoyas, under Ewing, were able to start getting their share again.
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Post by sleepy on Jan 5, 2018 15:50:52 GMT -5
Why would that be a bad thing though? Yea the very very top players and big men would be going to the NBA. The obvious no brainer talent, if you will. The players almost exclusively end up at Duke/UK/KU right now. Take them off the table and you will still have top big men that aren't ready to go to the NBA to recruit. The difference being that talent evaluation and development will be more important with, imo, taking away a huge advantage from the Kentucky's of the world. It's a bad thing for many reasons IMO, especially if you are an NBA fan. But as a Hoya fan also I am painfully aware that other programs swoop in and get elite recruits outside of the top four or five Blue Bloods and it would be nice if the Hoyas, under Ewing, were able to start getting their share again. But there will still be elite recruits to sweep in and get. The NBA age limit changing would just serve to even the playing field in college basketball, to some extent at least. The rule as it is now, imo, is bad for both college basketball and the players. It benefits the NBA but I think there is a solve that could work for all.
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Post by ColumbiaHeightsHoya on Jan 5, 2018 16:21:12 GMT -5
If Vanderbilt can get 2 and possibly 3 five stars in one class so can we. People are underestimating Ewing.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Jan 5, 2018 16:24:37 GMT -5
I think what we get is a rule allowing kids to go straight to the pros, but if they don't, they have to stay at least 2 years.
It could cause a ripple effect - instead of Kentucky, Duke, etc. getting the one-and-done kids, they would get the top recruits who choose college (who would otherwise have been crowded out and fallen to the next rung of colleges). But we aren't talking about that many kids each year, and Patrick could certainly establish the ability to compete with the blue bloods for the big men near the top of the list.
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Post by sleepy on Jan 5, 2018 17:06:11 GMT -5
I think what we get is a rule allowing kids to go straight to the pros, but if they don't, they have to stay at least 2 years. It could cause a ripple effect - instead of Kentucky, Duke, etc. getting the one-and-done kids, they would get the top recruits who choose college (who would otherwise have been crowded out and fallen to the next rung of colleges). But we aren't talking about that many kids each year, and Patrick could certainly establish the ability to compete with the blue bloods for the big men near the top of the list. Sure, they'd still get to top college recruits left. But the difference of getting an 3 or so NBA ready kids and 3 kids who are still a couple of years away is significant. That's what will even the playing field.
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Post by MCIGuy on Jan 5, 2018 17:22:47 GMT -5
It's a bad thing for many reasons IMO, especially if you are an NBA fan. But as a Hoya fan also I am painfully aware that other programs swoop in and get elite recruits outside of the top four or five Blue Bloods and it would be nice if the Hoyas, under Ewing, were able to start getting their share again. But there will still be elite recruits to sweep in and get. The NBA age limit changing would just serve to even the playing field in college basketball, to some extent at least. The rule as it is now, imo, is bad for both college basketball and the players. It benefits the NBA but I think there is a solve that could work for all. How is it bad for the players? Because they can't get drafted out of high school without proving they are worthy of an NBA contract? I care more about the game at all levels than I do a bunch of guys getting their payday long before they can actually live up to it. The game is always more important than the individuals IMO. As for it balancing out college hoops...that's nonsense. It wasn't balanced out back during that period in which high school kids could go straight to the pros. The major programs were still winning championships. Think of it this way...if the high school players were able to go straight to the NBA a few years back making the blue bloods recruit down a level or two, then Govan probably would have been playing for a Kentucky or a UNC or a Kansas.
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