drquigley
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Post by drquigley on Feb 5, 2018 15:33:53 GMT -5
I agree with everything you said except the Nova upset. Did anyone watch Nova beat Seton Hall? Seriously, I've been a college ball fan for 60 years and every time I watch Nova I tell myself that this is the best team I've seen since the Alcindor/Walton UCLA teams. I thought before this season that Nova was beatable this year. Nope. I can't believe they have one loss. I say this as someone who hates Nova probably more than anyone on this board. But believe it or not they are actually getting better as the season progresses. Baring a serious injury to Brunson I see them easily winning it all this year. Now if only we can figure out their "secret". Been noted that part of it is their judicious use of redshirting. Also, their ability to recruit quality, but not blue chip, players and develop them and keep them for 4 years. And of course there's Jay Wright and his staff. Hyperbole, much? Nova has pretty much looked like this since the New Big East started. They've bounced out early in the 2nd round 3 out of 4 times too. Could see that happening again this year or making it another run for a title. You never know. Wright's style of play and recruiting really benifitted with the new college basketball landscape. Small ball and lack of sure-fire NBA players. Kyle Lowry is probably his best NBA player/talent to come out of NOVA? The change in college basketball landscape really helped a program like NOVA. Before they were good, now they dominate. Jay Wright's time at NOVA is really compelling. Because twice during his career he was on the hot seat. While he was building his program with a talented recruiting class, some felt he was taking too long to get NOVA off the ground with that recruiting class. Wasn't until his 4th year they finally reached the tournament. Then after much success and a Final Four , a sweet sixteen and an elite 8 with NOVA,the program took a dive and he had a losing season. Then they have a resurgence and start to dominate the New Big East. However,before the title,people were complaining his New Big East era teams choked in the tournament. It just goes to show you what time and patience with a coach can do for your program. Also, in spite of one's success, you are never above reproach from the fans. I'm sure Coach K is catching hell right now from Duke fans for losing to St. John's over the weekend. Please forgive the enthusiasm but every time I watch Nova play I get more impressed. You see the Seton Hall game? SHU played great and kept it close almost all game. But then Nova just pressed on the gas and blew them out. And they did it so effortlessly. It was almost surgical. But I will try to pedal back the enthusiasm (but man am I jealous).
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the_way
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Post by the_way on Feb 5, 2018 17:37:19 GMT -5
Hyperbole, much? Nova has pretty much looked like this since the New Big East started. They've bounced out early in the 2nd round 3 out of 4 times too. Could see that happening again this year or making it another run for a title. You never know. Wright's style of play and recruiting really benifitted with the new college basketball landscape. Small ball and lack of sure-fire NBA players. Kyle Lowry is probably his best NBA player/talent to come out of NOVA? The change in college basketball landscape really helped a program like NOVA. Before they were good, now they dominate. Jay Wright's time at NOVA is really compelling. Because twice during his career he was on the hot seat. While he was building his program with a talented recruiting class, some felt he was taking too long to get NOVA off the ground with that recruiting class. Wasn't until his 4th year they finally reached the tournament. Then after much success and a Final Four , a sweet sixteen and an elite 8 with NOVA,the program took a dive and he had a losing season. Then they have a resurgence and start to dominate the New Big East. However,before the title,people were complaining his New Big East era teams choked in the tournament. It just goes to show you what time and patience with a coach can do for your program. Also, in spite of one's success, you are never above reproach from the fans. I'm sure Coach K is catching hell right now from Duke fans for losing to St. John's over the weekend. Please forgive the enthusiasm but every time I watch Nova play I get more impressed. You see the Seton Hall game? SHU played great and kept it close almost all game. But then Nova just pressed on the gas and blew them out. And they did it so effortlessly. It was almost surgical. But I will try to pedal back the enthusiasm (but man am I jealous). lol. I understand what you are saying. The way the played that swarming defense against us this year was amazing. Very impressive. Virginia is similar in that regard too. Shoot, I remember when Virginia announced Bennett's hiring, people questioned it. He had no recruiting ties to the East Coast. How could he manage? lol Villanova's success does give people hope within our conference that what they do can be done by other teams, including us. It isn't like they have some built-in advantages vs other teams within the conference.
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hoyazeke
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Post by hoyazeke on Feb 5, 2018 17:51:04 GMT -5
DrQ I only see one team that I think can beat Nova and that's UVA. I haven't seen a team play D like they do in Charlottesville. And to make matters worst, with the development of Hunter and Diakite, they can put pressure with athleticism on the offensive end of the court..... I haven't seen UVA play but with all Nova's shooters I'd be surprised if they can beat them just with great defense. Just too many scores on Nova.. That said I'll try to catch a UVA game this week on TV. Yeah you have got to check out a UVA game. It's not that they can't score but their D is almost perfect and they make every possession difficult for the offense. They are never out of position and if you beat your man you never get a easy uncontested shot. I think Nova vs UVA would be a really good game. They have made some really good offensive teams look bad and they seem to be getting better...
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Feb 5, 2018 18:40:13 GMT -5
I guess the point is you're asking why he was out there like it's a coaching error and using past performance as to why he shouldn't be, but on Saturday he was playing well enough to earn that slot. My guess is he was probably out there because he had played well up until that point and he probably wanted a guy capable of breaking his man down off the dribble if things broke down. At the end of the day it didn't really matter either way imo.. I do think it was a coaching error that Dickerson was out there. I don't think his performance in the game, even if improved from the horrible games he's had before, was good enough to entrust him with the ball on the last possession of a tied game. How many times has Dickerson broken his man off the dribble and actually scored all year? I'm sure it may have happened once or twice, but I cannot think of any. He often gets by defenders but then gets stuffed and/or misses a shot. This really boils down to the fact that you evaluate Dickerson than me, which is fine. I completely understand where you're coming from, I just don't agree. We can agree to disagree.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2018 19:55:41 GMT -5
I guess the point is you're asking why he was out there like it's a coaching error and using past performance as to why he shouldn't be, but on Saturday he was playing well enough to earn that slot. My guess is he was probably out there because he had played well up until that point and he probably wanted a guy capable of breaking his man down off the dribble if things broke down. At the end of the day it didn't really matter either way imo.. I do think it was a coaching error that Dickerson was out there. I don't think his performance in the game, even if improved from the horrible games he's had before, was good enough to entrust him with the ball on the last possession of a tied game. How many times has Dickerson broken his man off the dribble and actually scored all year? I'm sure it may have happened once or twice, but I cannot think of any. He often gets by defenders but then gets stuffed and/or misses a shot. This really boils down to the fact that you evaluate Dickerson than me, which is fine. I completely understand where you're coming from, I just don't agree. We can agree to disagree. He's done that from time to time, he's also broken his man down and dished to an open teammate from time to time. It's not about all year though, it's about how he was playing on Saturday. That's what the decision was/is based on, how guys are going right now... On Saturday he had 6 assts and 2 to's in 23 minutes. That's solid production imo...
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hoyarooter
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Post by hoyarooter on Feb 5, 2018 19:58:09 GMT -5
I had a nightmare that we were in a great position to upset the #6 team in the country on the road, but somehow blew it thanks to a four point play in the final half minute. Ha, ha, ha, I'm glad that didn't really happen.
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