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Post by michaelgrahmstylie on Jan 12, 2018 16:42:31 GMT -5
Hopefully Jessie and Doc are working on their ball fakes this week, try to get Delgado to bite and draw some fouls. Interesting that you would say that. I have complained in the past about how few head fakes you see by our big men nowadays.
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Post by FromTheBeginning on Jan 12, 2018 16:53:21 GMT -5
Let's just hope they haven't had time to launder those horrendous unis from the SJU game.
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Post by 72hoya on Jan 12, 2018 22:04:07 GMT -5
Key to this game is guard play. Theirs are better than ours. If we can contain the guards and minimize turnovers I like the bigs matchup. But we are deservedly underdogs.
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Post by GIGAFAN99 on Jan 12, 2018 22:27:42 GMT -5
12-point dog. I guess expected but still jarring to see.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Jan 12, 2018 23:19:58 GMT -5
12-point dog. I guess expected but still jarring to see. Not so much after the last couple of seasons.
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Post by ewingitrust on Jan 13, 2018 7:11:12 GMT -5
We pull off the upset today. We're due for a "big win"...i think we are catching seton hall at the right time.
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Post by Elvado on Jan 13, 2018 7:11:18 GMT -5
While our problem have been end game situations, this game screams out to me as one in which we have to play well early. If we do not get run out of the building intje first 8 minutes, I think we have a chance to hang around and maybe even steal one here. We shoot fouls better than they do and if nothing else, we are due to upset somebody better than we are.
Why not today?
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Post by prhoya on Jan 13, 2018 9:49:06 GMT -5
Delusion: if Hoyas can hit the open 3s like versus the OOC, we can win. Didn’t we hit more than 50% vs a few of them?
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Post by zxhoya on Jan 13, 2018 10:26:21 GMT -5
What Seton Hall Does Badly: - Free throws! While we are 10th nationally shooting 78.2%, Seton Hall is shooting 66.9% (they are shooting better in the Big East, but still 10th in the conference). They do get to the line a fair amount, but not as much as we do. - Turnovers - While not as bad as Georgetown (306 of 351), Seton Hall turns it over a fair amount too (200 of 351). They are not particularly good at forcing turnovers either (209 of 351). They are 75th in blocks, but 193rd in steals. - Defensive Rebounding: They are 200th nationally, so not above average, though Delgado is an excellent rebounder. What Seton Hall Does Well: - Efficient offense. Seton Hall is a pretty efficient team. They shoot 52.7% on twos, and 37.6% on threes. While these numbers aren't as good as Creighton, they are still solid. - Rebounding: They excel at offensive rebounds - 13th best in the country. - Defense: Seton Hall's defense is not outstanding but very solid - opponents shoot okay against them but not great. Seton Hall only takes 27% of their shots from three, so we shouldn't expect them to start bombing them from deep - it could weigh in favor of some zone defense. BUT, Seton Hall has a few threats from three (see below), so if we start giving open threes, they could bury us. While perhaps not a strong as Creighton, Seton Hall still has a lot of guys who can shoot, and if we leave them open, we are going to suffer. Desi Rodriguez is shooting 56.9% from two, and 34.9% from three. Delgado is a bit over 50% from two, and gets to the line a lot (watch out Jesse Govan). Carrington is almost at 40% from three, and Myles Powell is shooting 43.1% from three (and over 50% in Big East play). While he gets less playing time, senior Ismael Sanogo is shooting well from two as well (60%). Really, the only Seton Hall starter who is not a big offensive threat is Michael Nzei. Otherwise, they've got 4 guys who can shoot. Given our often porous (or out of position defense), it's going to take a superb effort to pull this one out. Both Govan and Delgado get to the line at similar rates; thus it'll be interesting to see whether one of them picks up an advantage in this game. I pulled up Seton Hall's team stats and was surprised to see that they have the exact number of rebounds as the Hoyas, 699, and they've played 1 more game than we have. They do have 32 more offensive rebounds than the Hoyas and Delgado is averaging 11.6 boards himself and 13.7 against us for his career. Of course as usual, Derrickson and Govan have to stay out of foul trouble and dealing with Delgado down low makes this particularly important and a difficult challenge. Rodriguez has matured into one of the best players in the BE and can score from anywhere on the floor, big challenge for Keleb and others. The Pirates have won all 10 home games this season and 12 straight overall. This will be a great challenge for the Hoyas and coach Ewing but I believe we'll do well, fingers crossed.
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Post by lichoya68 on Jan 13, 2018 10:53:40 GMT -5
Twelve point underdogs BIGGEST GAME OF THE YEARimo if we can play well keep under 15 turnovers hustle for forty minutes OR MORE> doable huge game 500 middle of the pack we will see.. Kaleb needs a COMPLETE GAME not just d and hustle yup biggie coming. SINK THE PIRATES SHIP under rate and over perform go hoyas WE WILL SEE EAT THE BANNANA go hoyas
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Post by lichoya68 on Jan 13, 2018 10:55:55 GMT -5
Let's just hope they haven't had time to launder those horrendous unis from the SJU game. I BELIEVE I SAW THOSE UNIS IN NEW ORLEANS IN 1982 just saying and we beat the JOHNNIES I WANT THOSE UNIS please go hoyas
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Post by drquigley on Jan 13, 2018 11:42:51 GMT -5
I think we have to understand that since this is a rebuilding year there are no "must wins". We aren't gong to any post season tourneys so no one game will be more important than another. I believe there are two categories of games this year: 1) "could wins" and, 2) "surprise wins". St. John's, DePaul, Providence, and Marquette are "could wins" and therefore a loss to those teams will reflect on how well this rebuilding season is going while a "surprise win" will probably be mainly useful for its propaganda value, i.e. bringing nationwide attention to that rebuilding process. We already blew one chance for a "surprise win" against Butler. Today's game may be another opportunity. So just like I didn't get too depressed when we lost to Creighton I'm not going to jump off the ledge if we lose today.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Jan 13, 2018 11:48:08 GMT -5
I am happy to report from Newark that we are wearing our normal navy blue uniforms.
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Post by glidehoyas (Inactive) on Jan 13, 2018 11:53:41 GMT -5
Time to get busy! Beat the Hall!
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Post by DFW HOYA on Jan 13, 2018 11:56:18 GMT -5
I am happy to report from Newark that we are wearing our normal navy blue uniforms.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Jan 13, 2018 11:57:02 GMT -5
Blair is starting in place of Pickett.
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Post by glidehoyas (Inactive) on Jan 13, 2018 12:02:55 GMT -5
Glide, part of the problem is the "got it" that you use all the time. It doesn't come across as fun or you making a point. It comes across as you being like a parent scolding a child. Also, there are very clearly a handful of words that you use in a way that probably makes sense in the way that you feel you're using them but come across entirely differently (or are just the wrong words) when you use them (opinion, assume, realistic, attack, knowledge, bigot). I've seen very few attacks on you but I've seen you attack posters on a consistent basis. Maybe the problem is, at least in part, you? If you're a strong and smart person you wouldn't look at me saying "got it" meant simply means do you have it. Do you understand what I'm saying. That's all. Now, I can control you when you get upset or thing every is a negative when I post a comment. Some of you only complain or use excuses for not knowing something and not respecting my point of view. Everything I do some you "assume" which is disrespectful. Everyting I say or write there's a complaint lol. #icantbreathe... I think if you were to read to comprehend and simply just say I gotchu glide like I do some of you when I don't know something. I've a lot from some of you but you continue to disrespect or mostly "assume" thinking negatively about what I write. Pls, get of your feelings. This is about basketball. Maybe if you wouldn't disrespect or assume what I say I wouldn't have to go elementary on you to say, "got it." Oh, I guess me being me I'm not suppose to talk to some of you like this? Is this what it is because I'm thinking to myself, "hey is it because I'm black I'm not suppose to say this or that to white person?" Do they have this type of mentality? You know people things for a reason. I'd rather be up front than to assume negative things such as some of you do. Now, if you don't understand or I go over your heads talking basketball it's okay to say, "cool glide I didn't know." There have been lots of things from some of you I didn't know and learned. But I don't see the same here for whatever reason. If you feel the way you do why don't you just ask instead of assume? Wouldn't you think that's fair. Disrespectful folks ASSUME instead of simply ask a question. It's just that simple if you know we are fans of this Hoyas team? You've just attack me without asking a question. I don't some of you ever learned how to respect other's and their opinions right or wrong. No, the problem is not me. It's some of you. But anyways, let's move on to better things and it's GAMETIME! Let's go Hoyas!
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Post by glidehoyas (Inactive) on Jan 13, 2018 12:03:51 GMT -5
Juggy just as I wanted because Pickett needs to sit and learn then when he enters the game he'll be ready. Good defense Hoyas!
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Post by glidehoyas (Inactive) on Jan 13, 2018 12:04:06 GMT -5
Marcus with the 33333333333333...Another turnover for Seton Hall.
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Post by SSHoya on Jan 13, 2018 12:04:11 GMT -5
I'm giving Govan an assist on his first shot. . .
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