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Post by glidehoyas (Inactive) on Jan 8, 2018 10:33:52 GMT -5
During the blowout loss to Creighton it looked like the Hoyas gave up. Were they tuned in or turned out? Do you think they had a productive practice yesterday? Will this game be a run on to the St. John's game or will the Hoyas come out with confidence and prevail? I hope so!
Ready, set, go!
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This Just In
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Post by This Just In on Jan 8, 2018 13:52:36 GMT -5
I think the team's confidence is shaken, but playing St. Johns should help to fix that.
Edit Note: After the drubbing they took on Saturday, the team's confidence should be shook as it exposed weakness which St. John's does not have the ability to expose.
Who is the worst team, St. Johns or DePaul?
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Post by glidehoyas (Inactive) on Jan 8, 2018 17:12:55 GMT -5
I think the team's confidence is shaken, but playing St. Johns should help to fix that. Edit Note: After the drubbing they took on Saturday, the team's confidence should be shook as it exposed weakness which St. John's does not have the ability to expose. Who is the worst team, St. Johns or DePaul? I think with this being a rivalry game it's a big game and everything else is out of the window. I think both teams will play well, but the Hoyas come out with the W! .. glad they had a players only meeting yesterday.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Jan 8, 2018 17:44:23 GMT -5
I think the team's confidence is shaken, but playing St. Johns should help to fix that. Edit Note: After the drubbing they took on Saturday, the team's confidence should be shook as it exposed weakness which St. John's does not have the ability to expose. Who is the worst team, St. Johns or DePaul? Wasn't the cupcake schedule supposed to instill confidence and chemistry? Wasn't that one of the main defenses of it?
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Jan 8, 2018 17:49:57 GMT -5
The team needed to gel. We have limited talent, so expectations need to be realistic. We were picked to finish ninth. Creighton kind of punched us in the mouth.
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Post by glidehoyas (Inactive) on Jan 8, 2018 18:07:50 GMT -5
I think the team's confidence is shaken, but playing St. Johns should help to fix that. Edit Note: After the drubbing they took on Saturday, the team's confidence should be shook as it exposed weakness which St. John's does not have the ability to expose. Who is the worst team, St. Johns or DePaul? Wasn't the cupcake schedule supposed to instill confidence and chemistry? Wasn't that one of the main defenses of it? Yes.
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Post by dchoya72 on Jan 8, 2018 18:29:13 GMT -5
Glide, nice inside information. Thats good news.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Jan 8, 2018 18:33:34 GMT -5
It was one lousy game guys, let's not overreact. The 2006-2007 Final Four team lost to Old Dominion by 13 points, obviously they had no confidence.
This is not a very good team, so maybe losing to a good team just confirms that rather than suggesting something more negative or sinister.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Jan 8, 2018 18:39:02 GMT -5
Glide, nice inside information. Thats good news. The players only meeting was mentioned in the front page article. It was St. John's.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Jan 8, 2018 18:41:47 GMT -5
It was one lousy game guys, let's not overreact. The 2006-2007 Final Four team lost to Old Dominion by 13 points, obviously they had no confidence. This is not a very good team, so maybe losing to a good team just confirms that rather than suggesting something more negative or sinister. I am surprised nobody mentioned the Pittsburgh loss at home in 2013, where we lost 73-45. The 2013 team was a LOT better than this team, and a similar blow out happened there (of course, that team would end 12-6 and get a 2 seed in the NCAA before losing to FGCU). The bigger point being, sometimes these types of games happen. I do think we could see similar blowouts against the better teams in our conference, but one game like this shouldn't be enough to shake the confidence of the team.
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Post by bamahoya11 on Jan 8, 2018 19:24:05 GMT -5
This team has shown decent resilience, with the possible exception of the latter part of the second half against Creighton. I think this team has actually played with a bit of an edge and stubbornness that has been missing from recent teams. As 2003 just pointed out, even good teams can have bad matchups. Creighton is a tough matchup. A few years ago, I remember them blowing out a highly ranked Villanova team. There is no shame in that loss.
That said, we have to pick it up quickly. St. John's is going to be desperate for a win.
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Post by glidehoyas (Inactive) on Jan 8, 2018 19:49:16 GMT -5
This team has shown decent resilience, with the possible exception of the latter part of the second half against Creighton. I think this team has actually played with a bit of an edge and stubbornness that has been missing from recent teams. As 2003 just pointed out, even good teams can have bad matchups. Creighton is a tough matchup. A few years ago, I remember them blowing out a highly ranked Villanova team. There is no shame in that loss. That said, we have to pick it up quickly. St. John's is going to be desperate for a win. Off and on they've played tough. Agree with SJ's desperate for a win especially at home in the Garden. Will be a crazy hard fought game I think.
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Post by glidehoyas (Inactive) on Jan 8, 2018 19:53:37 GMT -5
Glide, nice inside information. Thats good news. The players only meeting was mentioned in the front page article. It was St. John's. Oh, snap, I was wrong, had to go back and read that. My bad DCHoya I'm not afraid to admit I was wrong and thanks for pointing this out FrazierFanatic. Darn, I wish this were us. We'd really better be ready for SJ's in the World's Greatest Arena lol.
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Post by glidehoyas (Inactive) on Jan 8, 2018 20:02:01 GMT -5
It was one lousy game guys, let's not overreact. The 2006-2007 Final Four team lost to Old Dominion by 13 points, obviously they had no confidence. This is not a very good team, so maybe losing to a good team just confirms that rather than suggesting something more negative or sinister. I don't think anyone is overreacting about the loss to Creighton, but there is a very serious concern about unity. This is the Big East and as we all know any team can be or get beat on any given night. Again, everything is out of door, window, whatever you want to call it. Both teams have a clean slate going into this rivalry game so to speak at MSG. Ewing/Mullin. What will be the Hoyas state of mind is my question.
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Post by mfk24 on Jan 8, 2018 20:02:11 GMT -5
I think the team's confidence is shaken, but playing St. Johns should help to fix that. Edit Note: After the drubbing they took on Saturday, the team's confidence should be shook as it exposed weakness which St. John's does not have the ability to expose. Who is the worst team, St. Johns or DePaul? Wasn't the cupcake schedule supposed to instill confidence and chemistry? Wasn't that one of the main defenses of it? Interesting note on the schedule. Goodman who we obviously know is a troll, gave Bobby Hurley props for his "anti-Georgetown" non-conference scheduling, but ASU is currently sitting at 1-2 in the Pac 12 after loosing to Arizona, Colorado, and eeking out their first conference victory against Utah. Early yet in conference play, and obviously they have the better resume, but thought it was an interesting comparison. Nothing to do with the teams confidence level right now, but something I was thinking about the other day.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Jan 8, 2018 20:47:43 GMT -5
The players only meeting was mentioned in the front page article. It was St. John's. Oh, snap, I was wrong, had to go back and read that. My bad DCHoya I'm not afraid to admit I was wrong and thanks for pointing this out FrazierFanatic. Darn, I wish this were us. We'd really better be ready for SJ's in the World's Greatest Arena lol. It can be very positive for players to have their own meeting, sometimes to pull together or work out some differences.
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Post by ewingitrust on Jan 9, 2018 0:32:06 GMT -5
The team will be locked in. I suspect the team will be motivated to attone for the Creighton performance. Plus Ewing wants to win on his 1st game at MSG.
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Post by GIGAFAN99 on Jan 9, 2018 6:41:09 GMT -5
It was one lousy game guys, let's not overreact. The 2006-2007 Final Four team lost to Old Dominion by 13 points, obviously they had no confidence. This is not a very good team, so maybe losing to a good team just confirms that rather than suggesting something more negative or sinister. It's our worst home conference loss in...two games (Villanova last year). We haven't been favored in a conference game since the Depaul home loss last year and we will likely be favorites in one game all year. We might have two others where we're actually "only" one possession dogs. In short, there is a lot of hand-wringing about a blowout loss that, while never pleasant, isn't exactly headline news for a team in this state of transition.
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Post by glidehoyas (Inactive) on Jan 9, 2018 7:28:01 GMT -5
Oh, snap, I was wrong, had to go back and read that. My bad DCHoya I'm not afraid to admit I was wrong and thanks for pointing this out FrazierFanatic. Darn, I wish this were us. We'd really better be ready for SJ's in the World's Greatest Arena lol. It can be very positive for players to have their own meeting, sometimes to pull together or work out some differences. of course, I've said this, but it was St. John's who did. Not us.
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Post by glidehoyas (Inactive) on Jan 9, 2018 7:29:20 GMT -5
The team will be locked in. I suspect the team will be motivated to attone for the Creighton performance. Plus Ewing wants to win on his 1st game at MSG. We will see! Hoping ..I'll leave it at that.
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