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Post by glidehoyas (Inactive) on Jan 5, 2018 11:34:01 GMT -5
So why would a college kid? MD is not an adult, and he's not considered an adult. Just because he's a big dude he's an adult??? What does high level hoops have to do with anything. It's still college basketball. I respect your opinion as well, but there are youth coaches NOW that will try what Patrick has done, and there are some now that do this. So no apples and oranges here. Respect. It's amazing the things you hear from your players talking to them one on one. I never embarrassed a player, I spoke with him alone. Morgan Wootten True basketball coaches are great teachers and you do not humiliate, you do not physically go after, you do not push or shove, you do not berate, if you are a true coach. If you humiliate or curse them, that won't do it. Coaches like that are not coaches. Morgan Wootten “Yelling doesn't get your point across, it only makes it louder.”
― Grant Hill We can agree to disagree. That said he is a college junior, so 20-21 years old? And I disagree. Been in this game too long. He's still a young man in college. Nice try though.
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Post by professorhoya on Jan 5, 2018 11:39:12 GMT -5
These adults aren't 5 years old.
People got on III for being too nice and quiet.
Now we have some fire and passion.
Michael Jordan was the ultimate mean guy and humiliator. Without that bad cop, Phil Jacksons nice guy persona wounlnt have gotten them 6 titles. Jordan coached up and humiliated Pippen into becoming one of the top 50 players of all time.
Calipari, Larry brown, mike kzesewysko, Bobbi knight, pat Riley. All yellers and screamers who just win.
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Post by Elvado on Jan 5, 2018 11:44:04 GMT -5
We can agree to disagree. That said he is a college junior, so 20-21 years old? And I disagree. Been in this game too long. He's still a young man in college. Nice try though. And now I return to my thought that we are raising veal. He is 20 or 21. He is not a child. I don’t care how long you have been in the game; a 20 year old man can be yelled at by a coach and it won’t kill him.
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Post by glidehoyas (Inactive) on Jan 5, 2018 11:48:52 GMT -5
And I disagree. Been in this game too long. He's still a young man in college. Nice try though. And now I return to my thought that we are raising veal. He is 20 or 21. He is not a child. I don’t care how long you have been in the game; a 20 year old man can be yelled at by a coach and it won’t kill him. Now we've gone from pee wee to child LMAO. Never said it would kill him, but think about Marcus. “Yelling doesn't get your point across, it only makes it louder.”
― Grant Hill True basketball coaches are great teachers and you do not humiliate, you do not physically go after, you do not push or shove, you do not berate, if you are a true coach. If you humiliate or curse them, that won't do it. Coaches like that are not coaches. Morgan Wootten Hope you understand.
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Post by glidehoyas (Inactive) on Jan 5, 2018 11:55:51 GMT -5
These adults aren't 5 years old. People got on III for being too nice and quiet. Now we have some fire and passion. Michael Jordan was the ultimate mean guy and humiliator. Without that bad cop, Phil Jacksons nice guy persona wounlnt have gotten them 6 titles. Jordan coached up and humiliated Pippen into becoming one of the top 50 players of all time. Calipari, Larry brown, mike kzesewysko, Bobbi knight, pat Riley. All yellers and screamers who just win. Who said they were 5 years old. How about young adults with feelings. People that got on III for supposedly being nice and quiet were WRONG. I did mention here when he got on Whittington and Hopkins for being late and asked them if they wanted remain here at Gtown. Soooooo that's that. MJ was a coach? LOL... Phil Jackson nice guy persona. DO you think just because these kids are big they're adults. But when they get in trouble, "it's oh, these kids will learn their lessons if they were to do something wrong and blah blah blah blah." "Yelling doesn't get your point across, it's only makes it louder." - Grant Hill Coach Ewing is rookie coach especially in the Big East. He cannot continue to humiliate his players like this period. Now suppose this hurt recruiting and if not okay. I think this are grown men you're talking about. Confused? lol Nice try dude.
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Post by hoopsmccan on Jan 5, 2018 12:00:08 GMT -5
I think it is a stretch to say that Coach humiliated MD with the actual rant. It is just that the rant went viral and, for that, I'm happy to blame Casual Hoya. Yet another thing that is their fault.
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Post by Elvado on Jan 5, 2018 12:02:31 GMT -5
And now I return to my thought that we are raising veal. He is 20 or 21. He is not a child. I don’t care how long you have been in the game; a 20 year old man can be yelled at by a coach and it won’t kill him. Now we've gone from pee wee to child LMAO. Never said it would kill him, but think about Marcus. “Yelling doesn't get your point across, it only makes it louder.”
― Grant Hill u True basketball coaches are great teachers and you do not humiliate, you do not physically go after, you do not push or shove, you do not berate, if you are a true coach. If you humiliate or curse them, that won't do it. Coaches like that are not coaches. Morgan Wootten Hope you understand. The only thing that should offend Marcus right now is that you think he is so mentally weak... Done with this.
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Jan 5, 2018 12:26:04 GMT -5
Ewing just tried to point out a bad shot during a huddle. I don't think he crossed any of the lines you keep citing.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Jan 5, 2018 12:28:41 GMT -5
I think it is a stretch to say that Coach humiliated MD with the actual rant. It is just that the rant went viral and, for that, I'm happy to blame Casual Hoya. Yet another thing that is their fault. hm Has there been even a hint of indication that Marcus himself was bothered or at all upset about what happened? When there is, I will worry about all of this.
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Post by justsaying on Jan 5, 2018 13:20:10 GMT -5
For most players it is not a big deal at all what happened. But what can happen is of him to keep be reminded by the references we make as fans. In our enthusiasm for the subject, we keep bringing attention back to that subject when more than likely he is attempting to focus on the next one. Through the many the many medias of expressions he is reminded.
By the way if you have had the opportunity to sit close to the court at one of Coach K's game you would probably label a fair amount of his conversation to officials and at times to his players as filthy. Maybe the only difference is that he may not allow a camera that close to his huddle.
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Post by glidehoyas (Inactive) on Jan 5, 2018 13:23:31 GMT -5
Now we've gone from pee wee to child LMAO. Never said it would kill him, but think about Marcus. “Yelling doesn't get your point across, it only makes it louder.”
― Grant Hill u True basketball coaches are great teachers and you do not humiliate, you do not physically go after, you do not push or shove, you do not berate, if you are a true coach. If you humiliate or curse them, that won't do it. Coaches like that are not coaches. Morgan Wootten Hope you understand. The only thing that should offend Marcus right now is that you think he is so mentally weak... Done with this. Here we go with this assuming (RARELY HAVE I WITNESSED ASSUMPTIONS TURNED INTO FACTS). I've written many times right here that Marcus is a tough kid. He played for two tough ass coaches in Glen Farello and Keith Stevens AAU Team Takeover. I know both coaches and I also know Marcus' dad. He's a huge dude that don't take no . You should've been done with this because you care nothing about Marcus, it's obvious. Marcus had 14 points in the first half, so there.
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Post by glidehoyas (Inactive) on Jan 5, 2018 13:27:18 GMT -5
Ewing just tried to point out a bad shot during a huddle. I don't think he crossed any of the lines you keep citing. It was humiliating period. “Yelling doesn't get your point across, it only makes it louder.”
― Grant Hill You have your opinion and I respect, but some of you can't say the same for me. Ever coached before? Have kids? When have seen a coach on FS1 call a kid like this in the huddle. Marcus had already had 14 points and wanted to get his coach his first BE win. Hmmm... I don't keep citing anything it's what's written and I didn't write it. Nice try. lol
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Post by glidehoyas (Inactive) on Jan 5, 2018 13:30:33 GMT -5
For most players it is not a big deal at all what happened. But what can happen is of him to keep be reminded by the references we make as fans. In our enthusiasm for the subject, we keep bringing attention back to that subject when more than likely he is attempting to focus on the next one. Through the many of for medias of expressions he is reminded. By the way if you have had the opportunity to sit close to the court at one of Coach K's game you would probably label a fair amount of his conversation to officials and at times to his players as filthy. Maybe the only difference is that he may not allow a camera that close to his huddle. LMAO, so now you can speak for most players lol. I used to sit behind Gtown's bench and our opponent's. I've witnessed every coach that came through the Verizon Center (Capital One) and their coaching. All Big East coaches and out of conference foes. Did they ever put Coach K's filthiness on national tv or in the huddle for the whole world to see? Last sentence, okay.
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Post by glidehoyas (Inactive) on Jan 5, 2018 13:32:56 GMT -5
I think it is a stretch to say that Coach humiliated MD with the actual rant. It is just that the rant went viral and, for that, I'm happy to blame Casual Hoya. Yet another thing that is their fault. hm Has there been even a hint of indication that Marcus himself was bothered or at all upset about what happened? When there is, I will worry about all of this. Who's to say there wasn't hmmmm... teammates, some fans, recruits. Casualhoya arrives once again. Humiliation is humiliation Patrick Ewing or not. No disrespect. But everyone has their opinions. I respect.
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Post by glidehoyas (Inactive) on Jan 5, 2018 13:35:05 GMT -5
Onto Creighton, let's go Marcus and teammates! Beat the Blue Jays!
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Post by justsaying on Jan 5, 2018 13:42:22 GMT -5
For most players it is not a big deal at all what happened. But what can happen is of him to keep be reminded by the references we make as fans. In our enthusiasm for the subject, we keep bringing attention back to that subject when more than likely he is attempting to focus on the next one. Through the many of for medias of expressions he is reminded. By the way if you have had the opportunity to sit close to the court at one of Coach K's game you would probably label a fair amount of his conversation to officials and at times to his players as filthy. Maybe the only difference is that he may not allow a camera that close to his huddle. LMAO, so now you can speak for most players lol. I used to sit behind Gtown's bench and our opponent's. I've witnessed every coach that came through the Verizon Center (Capital One) and their coaching. All Big East coaches and out of conference foes. Did they ever put Coach K's filthiness on national tv or in the huddle for the whole world to see? Last sentence, okay. I've played, coached various levels, assistance coached various levels, I've seen all kinds of coaches (By the way the hollering I did was at the action of the game not players), I've been to Duke's arena, I never said Coach K's every game is like that or every single player is like that. On our local affiliates we have heard Coach K use the various curse words I care not mention that would make a sailor blush. My response was not one to to incite a reaction nor to speak of all players and coaches but I've seen a lot of both through the many gyms and time. So this is not just an off the cuff reaction expressed. My reference in most players I'm referring to players that have worked the grind to be elite level, has had people pushing them constantly, usually a player of lesser mental structure would have folded before he got to this level, again this is not to say all players.
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Post by glidehoyas (Inactive) on Jan 5, 2018 13:47:33 GMT -5
LMAO, so now you can speak for most players lol. I used to sit behind Gtown's bench and our opponent's. I've witnessed every coach that came through the Verizon Center (Capital One) and their coaching. All Big East coaches and out of conference foes. Did they ever put Coach K's filthiness on national tv or in the huddle for the whole world to see? Last sentence, okay. I've played, coached various levels, assistance coached various levels, I've seen all kinds of coaches (By the way the hollering I did was at the action of the game not players), I've been to Duke's arena, I never said Coach K's every game is like that or every single player is like that. On our local affiliates we have heard Coach K use the various curse words I care not mention that would make a sailor blush. My response was not one to to incite a reaction nor to speak of all players and coaches but I've seen a lot of both through the many gyms and time. So this is not just an off the cuff reaction expressed. My reference in most players I'm referring to players that have worked the grind to be elite level, has had people pushing them constantly, usually a player of lesser mental structure would have folded before he got to this level, again this is not to say all players. I hear you.
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Post by miracles87 on Jan 5, 2018 13:59:00 GMT -5
I love Coach's intensity, the way he goes from studious, seemingly looking for some Grey Poupon, to fiery and super scary in an instant. It is clear that he knows what he knows, and has zero interest equivocating or softening his message for a bunch of 21st Century Edited. For all of the unknowns about Coach Ewing coming in, belief in what he brings to the program, and a larger than life presence, are there in spades. Love it!
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Post by FromTheBeginning on Jan 5, 2018 14:03:34 GMT -5
This is getting ridiculous PE didn't cuss at him, he didn't disrespect him, he just asked him some questions relating to his judgement as a player. He wants him to be the best player he can be and have the most positive impact on the team while he's on the floor. Everyone is complaining this went viral - these kids know what they sign up for - they consider exposure as a major factor in their school choice. Would there be any outrage if a slam dunk went viral? Exposure goes both ways and you have to be ready for it - good or bad. Now we're down to whether someone's relative will be uncomfortable if asked any questions. Time to move on from this one. And as far as comparing this to Big John - this doesn't even move the needle if you are comparing it to what Pops threw out there back in the day.
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Post by glidehoyas (Inactive) on Jan 5, 2018 14:11:08 GMT -5
This is getting ridiculous PE didn't cuss at him, he didn't disrespect him, he just asked him some questions relating to his judgement as a player. He wants him to be the best player he can be and have the most positive impact on the team while he's on the floor. Everyone is complaining this went viral - these kids know what they sign up for - they consider exposure as a major factor in their school choice. Would there be any outrage if a slam dunk went viral? Exposure goes both ways and you have to be ready for it - good or bad. Now we're down to whether someone's relative will be uncomfortable if asked any questions. Time to move on from this one. And as far as comparing this to Big John - this doesn't even move the needle if you are comparing it to what Pops threw out there back in the day. LOL, Ewing just "asked" him some questions. Of course you want your players to be the best. I think we all know this. Please go back and read. Stop making excuses. We have moved on until you came LOL. Who said a relative may be uncomfortable. You just don't get it because you're only thinking about yourself. Who compared this to Big John. Oh, if this went viral it's quite evident this has moved the needle some. As far as Big John, that was then. A person can feel or be humiliated without cursing at them. Nice try. “Yelling doesn't get your point across, it only makes it louder.” ― Grant Hill Got it?
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