hoya95
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Post by hoya95 on Mar 25, 2019 14:54:18 GMT -5
So Nike says it has been cooperating with the government on the basketball corruption investigation for a year. Wonder if we'll ever hear any of it or if it's just the Adidas schools that are going to get crushed. Maybe Nike's cooperation explains why the US Attorney jumped in so fast to stop Avenatti from even holding his press conference. This whole thing is crazy.
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Post by prhoya on Mar 27, 2019 16:30:23 GMT -5
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Post by jctnhoya4ever on Mar 27, 2019 16:52:07 GMT -5
I never seen anything about duke what did he say? He talked about bol bol at Oregon and Nike. Who knows he may be lying to cover his extortion to.
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Post by DFW HOYA on Mar 27, 2019 16:59:35 GMT -5
Is it possible a strong-arm celebrity attorney attempted to put the screws to Nike? Yes. Could Nike have something to hide and Avenatti doesn't mind taking them down with him? Yes. And if this somehow ties to the very much ongoing investigation on bribing coaches... look out.
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Post by hoyainla on Mar 27, 2019 20:50:33 GMT -5
If more AAU coaches like Gary Franklin start rolling if they don't get Nike/Adidas deals that should just about be the end of this. California Supreme had a few kids the last few years that went to big schools which have been mentioned but most ended up at arizona including old target Devomaire Doutrive. The only way I see Duke getting dragged in is through Ayton because I don't remember any Cal Supreme kids actually ended up at Duke.
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Post by DanMcQ on Mar 28, 2019 6:21:57 GMT -5
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Hoyas4Ever
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Post by Hoyas4Ever on Mar 28, 2019 7:56:04 GMT -5
Seriously...How does Goodman still have job?
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Post by lucky on Mar 28, 2019 8:05:47 GMT -5
Seriously...How does Goodman still have job? I think he is working freelance for himself now. I'm not certain how bad it has to get before he fires himself!
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Hoyas4Ever
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Post by Hoyas4Ever on Mar 28, 2019 8:10:49 GMT -5
Seriously...How does Goodman still have job? I think he is working freelance for himself now. I'm not certain how bad it has to get before he fires himself! I thought he was working for the stadium network/platform?
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Post by RockawayHoya on Mar 28, 2019 8:17:47 GMT -5
I think he is working freelance for himself now. I'm not certain how bad it has to get before he fires himself! I thought he was working for the stadium network/platform? Could always get a job working for Chris Mack.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2019 9:08:32 GMT -5
Mentioned this in the other thread before it got locked but aren't we ignoring the fact that the NCAA leaves a lot of money on the table because it needs to make it seem like it's not a business? How much would a Duke jersey with Williamson on the back be worth for instance?
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Hoyas4Ever
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Post by Hoyas4Ever on Mar 28, 2019 10:29:55 GMT -5
I thought he was working for the stadium network/platform? Could always get a job working for Chris Mack. You mean he hasn't been working as Mack and $tansbury's PR guys all this time? I assumed he was collecting a check from them on the low all this time...
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Post by sleepy on Mar 28, 2019 11:34:37 GMT -5
Mentioned this in the other thread before it got locked but aren't we ignoring the fact that the NCAA leaves a lot of money on the table because it needs to make it seem like it's not a business? How much would a Duke jersey with Williamson on the back be worth for instance? I mean, the woe is me for the .5% of college athletes that could actually cash in on their likeness in a way that out values their tuitions/room and board is out of hand. Between the under the table pay-offs these players get while in college coupled with the exposure that likely increases contracts with sponsors upon going pro, has anyone actually properly figured out out much their missing out on in the short term and out that is or isn't offset by longer term gains? Again, let everyone go to the NBA out of high school, effectively eliminating the players that are worth more than they are getting from the college system, and end the stupidity of this altruistic argument.
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Post by HometownHoya on Mar 28, 2019 11:39:29 GMT -5
Mentioned this in the other thread before it got locked but aren't we ignoring the fact that the NCAA leaves a lot of money on the table because it needs to make it seem like it's not a business? How much would a Duke jersey with Williamson on the back be worth for instance? I mean, the woe is me for the .5% of college athletes that could actually cash in on their likeness in a way that out values their tuitions/room and board is out of hand. Between the under the table pay-offs these players get while in college coupled with the exposure that likely increases contracts with sponsors upon going pro, has anyone actually properly figured out out much their missing out on in the short term and out that is or isn't offset by longer term gains? Again, let everyone go to the NBA out of high school, effectively eliminating the players that are worth more than they are getting from the college system, and end the stupidity of this altruistic argument. I'm not sure if anyone except Nike or Adidas has the full picture of the under the table payoffs and professional contracts vs potential revenue. Unfortunately, I don't think we'll ever get the full picture from them but I'd assume the current set-up is pretty good for the shoe companies, otherwise they'd be pushing for change as well. At this point, I agree that your last sentence is the best solution.
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Post by DanMcQ on Mar 28, 2019 11:52:56 GMT -5
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Post by EtomicB on Mar 28, 2019 12:16:55 GMT -5
Mentioned this in the other thread before it got locked but aren't we ignoring the fact that the NCAA leaves a lot of money on the table because it needs to make it seem like it's not a business? How much would a Duke jersey with Williamson on the back be worth for instance? I mean, the woe is me for the .5% of college athletes that could actually cash in on their likeness in a way that out values their tuitions/room and board is out of hand. Between the under the table pay-offs these players get while in college coupled with the exposure that likely increases contracts with sponsors upon going pro, has anyone actually properly figured out out much their missing out on in the short term and out that is or isn't offset by longer term gains? Again, let everyone go to the NBA out of high school, effectively eliminating the players that are worth more than they are getting from the college system, and end the stupidity of this altruistic argument. It's not a take the greater value scenario, why are you positioning the debate this way? Players will be allowed to declare right out of HS very soon but I don't see how that solves the inequities of the system in these high revenue sports...
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Post by ColumbiaHeightsHoya on Mar 28, 2019 12:49:52 GMT -5
Wow, interesting quote coming from Izzo. What about the sexual assaults on your watch Tom? I used to think the guy was legit but after that he basically falls right behind Penn St. in the massive screw up department by adults category.
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Post by hoya9797 on Mar 28, 2019 13:11:11 GMT -5
We must have a lot of coaches and administrators on this board. I can't imagine who else would be so invested in making sure the players get as little as possible.
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Post by jwp91 on Mar 28, 2019 13:35:47 GMT -5
We must have a lot of coaches and administrators on this board. I can't imagine who else would be so invested in making sure the players get as little as possible. Maybe we are just expeienced enough to understand that you can’t have your cake and eat it too.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Mar 28, 2019 13:37:47 GMT -5
We must have a lot of coaches and administrators on this board. I can't imagine who else would be so invested in making sure the players get as little as possible. Well, from the perspective of Georgetown University, we haven't had a player on our roster that would get paid significant sums in a free market type of system for years. Which seems to be a fact the "pay the players!" crowd doesn't seem to understand. Assuming 13 scholarship players per team, there are 4,589 Division I players. That's not to say it's not a problem, but there's a tremendous focus on the 1% of players who might get paid a lot versus everybody else who would not. And, if the NBA lets guys like Zion Williamson go straight to the NBA, that number will decline even further. I completely agree guys like that should have every right to make as much money as they want, but that avenue should be through going to the NBA directly. The NBA has taken advantage of college teams and used them as incubators of talent (which reduces risk to NBA owners), which creates perverse incentives. College basketball wasn't created as a place for guys like that to camp out for one year and then get their monster contracts. It's silly. They should be able to go directly into the professional ranks. Of course, that wouldn't solve the problem, but it would go a long way toward getting the biggest incentive for bribery and illegal payments out of college.
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