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Post by hoyaboya on Aug 10, 2017 14:09:16 GMT -5
Top-tier non-blue boods in terms of recruiting (off the top of my head): Arizona, Oregon, Villanova, Ohio State, Texas, Michigan State, Syracuse, Maryland, just to name a few. Those are teams I wouldn't be surprised if we lost recruiting battles to for a local kid. What do I have no clue on that I'm reporting as fact? Are you saying Xavier Johnson doesn't have an open invitation to visit campus whenever he'd like? Because he certainly has taken more than one documented unofficial visit in the last 9 months. He plays a position of need. He's not a top 100 recruit and he's not being recruited by top tier programs. He's a hometown kid and plays for Team Takeover. What am I missing? 1) You don't know who invited him to Kenner. The school, the team he played for, a random friend? Can you tell us for sure? 2) You don't know if he has an open invitation to visit the school whenever, you're speculating 3) You don't know how hard they are recruiting him. You're acting like they are all over him, when In fact an article a couple pages back had him on quote not listing Hoyas as one of the 5 schools recruiting him the hardest. Hard to square those quotes with your comment that he has an open invitation at minimum... 4) You don't know what HIS priorities are when it comes to recruiting. What does "Red carpet treatment" at Kenner mean? The staff can't even watch him play. Other HS kids have participated in Kenner. I think the Hoyas have a good shot, but they have a lot of work to do from everything I'm seeing/hearing... XJ has a scholarship offer from Georgetown. That is documented. I don't know why we're moving the goalposts to "we don't know how hard the staff is recruiting him"...seems like people are pre-emptively trying to make some excuses but we know he has an offer from the new staff. The facts seem very clear. He has an offer. He played at Kenner last week. He lists the Hoyas along with 5 other schools as his "final 6". The other 5 schools are not powerhouses. The other 5 schools are not based in the same city as where XJ is from and where his family/friends can watch him play half his games. 2 of his other top 5 schools that are considered the biggest threats for his services have prioritized other PGs ahead of him. Continue to stand by my statement. Based on the facts at hand, if we don't land this recruit and lose him to one of the other schools on his list, something's wrong.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2017 14:30:12 GMT -5
1) You don't know who invited him to Kenner. The school, the team he played for, a random friend? Can you tell us for sure? 2) You don't know if he has an open invitation to visit the school whenever, you're speculating 3) You don't know how hard they are recruiting him. You're acting like they are all over him, when In fact an article a couple pages back had him on quote not listing Hoyas as one of the 5 schools recruiting him the hardest. Hard to square those quotes with your comment that he has an open invitation at minimum... 4) You don't know what HIS priorities are when it comes to recruiting. What does "Red carpet treatment" at Kenner mean? The staff can't even watch him play. Other HS kids have participated in Kenner. I think the Hoyas have a good shot, but they have a lot of work to do from everything I'm seeing/hearing... XJ has a scholarship offer from Georgetown. That is documented. I don't know why we're moving the goalposts to "we don't know how hard the staff is recruiting him"...seems like people are pre-emptively trying to make some excuses but we know he has an offer from the new staff. The facts seem very clear. He has an offer. He played at Kenner last week. He lists the Hoyas along with 5 other schools as his "final 6". The other 5 schools are not powerhouses. The other 5 schools are not based in the same city as where XJ is from and where his family/friends can watch him play half his games. 2 of his other top 5 schools that are considered the biggest threats for his services have prioritized other PGs ahead of him. Continue to stand by my statement. Based on the facts at hand, if we don't land this recruit and lose him to one of the other schools on his list, something's wrong. Offering a kid a scholarship is 1 of numerous steps it takes to secure a commitment from a recruit. It's literally the easiest part. Hopefully the staff doesn't think simply offering a scholarship is enough, or that and him playing a game at Kenner is a sign that they are all over him.... If they want him, they have a lot of work left to do. From everything I know, that's a fact. I'll leave it at that... hoyatalk2.proboards.com/post/738728/thread
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Post by bostonfan on Aug 10, 2017 14:46:09 GMT -5
XJ has a scholarship offer from Georgetown. That is documented. I don't know why we're moving the goalposts to "we don't know how hard the staff is recruiting him"...seems like people are pre-emptively trying to make some excuses but we know he has an offer from the new staff. The facts seem very clear. He has an offer. He played at Kenner last week. He lists the Hoyas along with 5 other schools as his "final 6". The other 5 schools are not powerhouses. The other 5 schools are not based in the same city as where XJ is from and where his family/friends can watch him play half his games. 2 of his other top 5 schools that are considered the biggest threats for his services have prioritized other PGs ahead of him. Continue to stand by my statement. Based on the facts at hand, if we don't land this recruit and lose him to one of the other schools on his list, something's wrong. Offering a kid a scholarship is 1 of numerous steps it takes to secure a commitment from a recruit. It's literally the easiest part. Hopefully the staff doesn't think simply offering a scholarship is enough, or that and him playing a game at Kenner is a sign that they are all over him.... If they want him, they have a lot of work left to do. From everything I know, this is a fact. I'll leave it at that... hoyatalk2.proboards.com/post/738728/threadThere is so much that goes on with the recruiting of any player it is really hard to tell where any school stands in a players mind, unless you see some quote from the player himself which establishes one school as the favorite over other schools. From looking at the list of other schools and the fact he is local, you would think Georgetown stands a decent chance with this player, but he may have developed a really close relationship with another coach or staff before the current Georgetown staff was even hired, or have some other totally unrelated reason for making one of the other schools his favorite. I like the highlights I have seen of him and hope it works out with the Hoyas, but if he decides to go somewhere else I don't think it means that the current Hoyas staff did a bad job with this kid. it just means that some other school had an even more compelling reason for him to decide to select that school. It is all just part of the recruiting game and why I am happy that Coach Ewing is casting a wide net for players and not just honing in on one or two players.
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Post by BeantownHoya on Aug 10, 2017 14:59:39 GMT -5
Hoyaboya, maybe someone should ask this way.
He doesnt come herw what are you insinuating is "very wrong".
I don't honestly grasp what your saying. Are you saying Ewing blew it? Gtown is having some type of percerption issue w recruits? Something else?
I like Xavier as much as the next guy but i can name numerous point guards i prefer over him. I dont understand how this 1 recruit would mark that 6 months into the job we have a serious issue.
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Post by deacon on Aug 10, 2017 15:57:29 GMT -5
Without having no real idea where a kid sits on a school's priority list and whether or not they would accept his commitment, it's almost laughable to say an offer alone means much of anything these days.
I coach a kid who wanted to commit to a school that "offered" him face to face yet he hasn't heard a peep from them for over five months. It's dumb but it's just how it is.
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Post by NCHoya on Aug 10, 2017 16:02:20 GMT -5
The fact he only has one local school listed in his Top 6 may be a sign he would really like to leave the DMV area. Kids want to get away from home too, and it is a valid reason for him choosing another school over Georgetown.
I am not sure how anyone can judge Ewing before his coached team even takes the court? As was written in another thread, the recruits do not even know what style the Hoyas will be playing. Until they see for themselves how they could fit into Ewing's system, I do not blame any recruit for keeping their options open or choosing elsewhere.
Also, Ewing landed a pretty big get in Pickett, beating UMCP was impressive.
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Post by Cambridge on Aug 10, 2017 16:12:41 GMT -5
Based on the facts at hand, if we don't land this recruit and lose him to one of the other schools on his list, something's wrong. Sometimes kids don't want to go to school near home.
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Post by ewingitrust on Aug 10, 2017 16:14:12 GMT -5
The fact he only has one local school listed in his Top 6 may be a sign he would really like to leave the DMV area. Kids want to get away from home too, and it is a valid reason for him choosing another school over Georgetown. I am not sure how anyone can judge Ewing before his coached team even takes the court? As was written in another thread, the recruits do not even know what style the Hoyas will be playing. Until they see for themselves how they could fit into Ewing's system, I do not blame any recruit for keeping their options open or choosing elsewhere. Also, Ewing landed a pretty big get in Pickett, beating UMCP was impressive. I do think the fact he has no prior "game style" to draw from can be spun as a positive. He can adapt his "style" to tailor the strengths of these recruits. Versus having a game style that requires recruits have to adapt to him. Purely from the recruiting angle.
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Post by aristides on Aug 10, 2017 22:10:21 GMT -5
1) You don't know who invited him to Kenner. The school, the team he played for, a random friend? Can you tell us for sure? 2) You don't know if he has an open invitation to visit the school whenever, you're speculating 3) You don't know how hard they are recruiting him. You're acting like they are all over him, when In fact an article a couple pages back had him on quote not listing Hoyas as one of the 5 schools recruiting him the hardest. Hard to square those quotes with your comment that he has an open invitation at minimum... 4) You don't know what HIS priorities are when it comes to recruiting. What does "Red carpet treatment" at Kenner mean? The staff can't even watch him play. Other HS kids have participated in Kenner. I think the Hoyas have a good shot, but they have a lot of work to do from everything I'm seeing/hearing... XJ has a scholarship offer from Georgetown. That is documented. I don't know why we're moving the goalposts to "we don't know how hard the staff is recruiting him"...seems like people are pre-emptively trying to make some excuses but we know he has an offer from the new staff. The facts seem very clear. He has an offer. He played at Kenner last week. He lists the Hoyas along with 5 other schools as his "final 6". The other 5 schools are not powerhouses. The other 5 schools are not based in the same city as where XJ is from and where his family/friends can watch him play half his games. 2 of his other top 5 schools that are considered the biggest threats for his services have prioritized other PGs ahead of him. Continue to stand by my statement. Based on the facts at hand, if we don't land this recruit and lose him to one of the other schools on his list, something's wrong. so Xavier Johnson's recruitment will determine whether or not something is wrong with the Hoyas program?
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Post by bicentennial on Aug 10, 2017 23:32:24 GMT -5
Also, I am a bit confused? It takes jumping through multiple hoops to get NCAA approval for a high school student to participate in an NCAA sanctioned basketball summer league. I am not sure how that doesn't show the staff is making the two student athletes who played at Kenner last week a priority? Also, playing on a team with current Georgetown students seems like a pretty clear way to have some of the most effective recruiting possible. For all the talk of coaches doing recruiting, it always seems that personal relationships with other players often affects decisions on where a student will attend as well.
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Post by hoyaboya on Aug 29, 2017 15:43:22 GMT -5
Corey Evans @coreyevans_10 Creighton will host 2018 top-150 @xelitebasketbal guard Marcus Zegaroswki tomorrow for his first official visit
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2017 15:48:07 GMT -5
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Post by dchoya72 on Aug 29, 2017 19:02:49 GMT -5
He seems VERY right-handed. My only negative observation.
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Post by daytonahoya31 on Aug 29, 2017 20:15:45 GMT -5
That lil Uzi Vert track tho
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Post by bkhoya on Aug 29, 2017 23:10:14 GMT -5
I definitely consign that Uzi Vert track. It made me want to watch all the highlights which I hardly ever do.
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Post by hoyas4lyfe on Aug 31, 2017 12:50:14 GMT -5
Added South Carolina to his final 7
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Post by centercourt400s on Aug 31, 2017 14:08:37 GMT -5
From the Washington Post Recruiting Insider article today: "[Xavier Johnson] said Tuesday that he has been to Georgetown for a few events, and met Ewing on the AAU circuit this summer. He liked that Ewing was “straight-up” and told him things he needs to work on moving forward. “When I met him he told me I needed to work on my jump shot, and I liked that he said that,” said Johnson, who plans to make his college decision some time in October. “He also said I need to play better defense. I think defense is the strongest part of my game and I would prove him wrong there, but I also liked that he was telling me what I needed to do better.”" www.washingtonpost.com/news/recruiting-insider/wp/2017/08/31/these-three-d-c-area-recruits-are-in-the-mix-to-land-at-georgetown-in-2018/?utm_term=.ab84fff431bb
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Post by Hoyas4Ever on Sept 1, 2017 21:21:42 GMT -5
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Post by eastcoastteddy58 on Sept 2, 2017 11:06:44 GMT -5
Looking at UW roster with one open scholarship left, IMO they need to grab a PF not a PG.
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Post by Hoyas4Ever on Sept 2, 2017 11:17:12 GMT -5
Looking at UW roster with one open scholarship left, IMO they need to grab a PF not a PG. I wouldn't pay much attention to the current UW roster makeup. Hopkins has been prioritizing Johnson probably longer than all the schools on Johnson's final list, going back to when he was still at Cuse. Also this is Hopkins first year at UW so it would not be unexpected for their to be at least a couple of players transferring out at the end of the upcoming season.
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