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Post by hoyaboya on Aug 10, 2017 9:23:36 GMT -5
Johnson has set official visits to five of the six schools, and will opt out of taking an official to Georgetown because of how close it is to his home in Fort Belvoir, Virginia. The unofficial visit date to Georgetown has yet to be determined. Below are the dates he plans to officially visit the other five schools. September 1-3: Washington September 8-10: Creighton September 16-18: Nebraska September 22-24: Georgia Tech September 29-October 1: South Florida www.prephoops.com/2017/08/xavier-johnson-down-to-six/Very interesting list of schools. Agreed. This is a battle we can and should win.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Aug 10, 2017 10:14:09 GMT -5
"should" may be a little strong. Creighton is a better program right now.
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Post by hoyaboya on Aug 10, 2017 10:21:19 GMT -5
"should" may be a little strong. Creighton is a better program right now. If we can't beat Creighton for a non-top 100 recruit from DC, playing for Team Takeover, at a position of need, then we're doing something very, very wrong.
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Post by hoyalove4ever on Aug 10, 2017 10:36:27 GMT -5
Well, it is a bit more complicated than that, but I understand the sentiments.
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Post by s4hoyas on Aug 10, 2017 10:45:23 GMT -5
I believe that Creighton has a player coming in (Ian Steere?) who plays on his AAU squad and is encouraging him to come there...hopefully, we'll get the last shot and can convince him to stay home...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2017 11:06:56 GMT -5
I believe that Creighton has a player coming in (Ian Steere?) who plays on his AAU squad and is encouraging him to come there...hopefully, we'll get the last shot and can convince him to stay home... He plays for Team Charlotte...
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Post by ewingitrust on Aug 10, 2017 11:09:57 GMT -5
Well, it is a bit more complicated than that, but I understand the sentiments. Yeah those "complications" concern me too. We're gonna have to earn it. I worry about Creighton too. But I trust that the staff knows how important getting XJ means for the area/school/dynamics. It won't be easy...
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Post by hoya8185 on Aug 10, 2017 11:45:34 GMT -5
Establishing a DMV pipeline is unbelievably critical on and off the court.
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Post by Hoyas4Ever on Aug 10, 2017 11:49:37 GMT -5
I also think people are sleeping on Wahington as a threat here as well as Creighton. While I personally don't think Hopkins is a very good coach, he is an excellent recruiter. Hopkins has been recruiting Xavier Johnson the longest going back to this past winter when Hopkins was still at Syracuse. Xavier has stated in interviews that he's got a very good relationship with Hopkins. Based on media reports and statements made by Johnson, I'm not sure how aggressively Ewing/staff are pursuing Johnson? If Johnson is a must have, would have to believe he would have been on campus with the staff already. Johnson has scheduled all 5 OV but hasn't set a local unofficial visit?
Don't sleep on Washington in this instance. If Xavier Johnson is a high priority for the staff, I believe they need to get him on campus multiple times/home visits if possible before he heads out on OV's.
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Post by s4hoyas on Aug 10, 2017 12:01:18 GMT -5
Steere was the first person on his twitter to encourage him to come to Creighton...assumed they were connected thru AAU, but it must be some other venue...hopefully, he's not overly influential in any case...
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Post by hoyaboya on Aug 10, 2017 12:14:03 GMT -5
I also think people are sleeping on Wahington as a threat here as well as Creighton. While I personally don't think Hopkins is a very good coach, he is an excellent recruiter. Hopkins has been recruiting Xavier Johnson the longest going back to this past winter when Hopkins was still at Syracuse. Xavier has stated in interviews that he's got a very good relationship with Hopkins. Based on media reports and statements made by Johnson, I'm not sure how aggressively Ewing/staff are pursuing Johnson? If Johnson is a must have, would have to believe he would have been on campus with the staff already. Johnson has scheduled all 5 OV but hasn't set a local unofficial visit? Don't sleep on Washington in this instance. If Xavier Johnson is a high priority for the staff, I believe they need to get him on campus multiple times/home visits if possible before he heads out on OV's. Xavier just played in Kenner last week along with Keldon Johnson, which may be the first time ever that incoming high school seniors were invited to play in the prestigious summer league. Pretty clear signal that the staff is making him a priority. As far as complications, whatever those might be, we need to get things uncomplicated to be able to land recruits like this. It's not like we're talking about Marvin Bagley or even David McCormack. This shouldn't be a difficult kid to reel in based on where he's from, where he's ranked, the other schools on his list, and our needs.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2017 12:28:22 GMT -5
IDK what his ranking has to do with anything. He has good options. These kids aren't numbers, they're individuals. Where he is ranked will have 0 effect on his decision.
I'm always cautious about chances of reeling in a recruit who isn't visiting your school for a official...
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Post by hoyaboya on Aug 10, 2017 12:50:20 GMT -5
IDK what his ranking has to do with anything. He has good options. These kids aren't numbers, they're individuals. Where he is ranked will have 0 effect on his decision. I'm always cautious about chances of reeling in a recruit, who isn't visiting your school for a official... The reason he's not using an official is because he lives in the same city, has already visited campus multiple times and has an open invitation to swing by whenever he feels like it. Are you also cautious about our chances of reeling in a recruit who's been given the red carpet treatment to play in the Kenner League? It appears we've done a pretty good job of pulling out all the stops for this kid. As far as numbers, my point is, he's not a kid that the blue bloods are recruiting and he's not a priority recruit for the top tier non-blue bloods. His list is Nebraska, Creighton, Washington, South Florida, Georgia Tech, and Georgetown. I stand by my comment, if we can't get the kid given the hometown angle and with those schools as our competition, something is very wrong.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2017 13:02:36 GMT -5
IDK what his ranking has to do with anything. He has good options. These kids aren't numbers, they're individuals. Where he is ranked will have 0 effect on his decision. I'm always cautious about chances of reeling in a recruit, who isn't visiting your school for a official... The reason he's not using an official is because he lives in the same city, has already visited campus multiple times and has an open invitation to swing by whenever he feels like it. Are you also cautious about our chances of reeling in a recruit who's been given the red carpet treatment to play in the Kenner League? - It appears we've done a pretty good job of pulling out all the stops for this kid.
As far as numbers, my point is, he's not a kid that the blue bloods are recruiting and he's not a priority recruit for the top tier non-blue bloods. His list is Nebraska, Creighton, Washington, South Florida, Georgia Tech, and Georgetown. I stand by my comment, if we can't get the kid given the hometown angle and with those schools as our competition, something is very wrong. There's no gimmies in recruiting... You have no clue on about 3-4 things you just listed as fact or close to fact... What is a "top tier non-blue blood"?
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Post by hoyaboya on Aug 10, 2017 13:15:51 GMT -5
The reason he's not using an official is because he lives in the same city, has already visited campus multiple times and has an open invitation to swing by whenever he feels like it. Are you also cautious about our chances of reeling in a recruit who's been given the red carpet treatment to play in the Kenner League? - It appears we've done a pretty good job of pulling out all the stops for this kid.
As far as numbers, my point is, he's not a kid that the blue bloods are recruiting and he's not a priority recruit for the top tier non-blue bloods. His list is Nebraska, Creighton, Washington, South Florida, Georgia Tech, and Georgetown. I stand by my comment, if we can't get the kid given the hometown angle and with those schools as our competition, something is very wrong. You have no clue on about 3-4 things you just listed as fact or close to fact... What is a "top tier non-blue blood"? There's no gimmies in recruiting... Top-tier non-blue boods in terms of recruiting (off the top of my head): Arizona, Oregon, Villanova, Ohio State, Texas, Michigan State, Syracuse, Maryland, just to name a few. Those are teams I wouldn't be surprised if we lost recruiting battles to for a local kid. What do I have no clue on that I'm reporting as fact? Are you saying Xavier Johnson doesn't have an open invitation to visit campus whenever he'd like? Because he certainly has taken more than one documented unofficial visit in the last 9 months. He plays a position of need. He's not a top 100 recruit and he's not being recruited by top tier programs. He's a hometown kid and plays for Team Takeover. What am I missing?
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Post by hoyaboya on Aug 10, 2017 13:27:51 GMT -5
Some more on Creighton and Washington...Johnson appears to be at best 2nd on Creighton's list of available 2018 point guards (behind MCW's brother Zegarowski) and third on UW's (behind Zegarowski and Elijah Hardy). "The Husky’s top target at point guard cut down his list on Tuesday and it’s obviously a good sign to see the purple W among the logos. The Dawgs have been a serious contender for Zegarowski for a long time and this only solidifies that status." "If UW is able to secure a commitment from Marcus it would mark the 3rd prospect heading from Northeast to Northwest in the last 4 months. Creighton is likely the favorite at this point but UW is still heavily in the mix. Zegarowski liked several pro-Creighton comments on the announcement of the cut down list including that of a current Creighton commit telling Marcus to join him. He said he’d like to make a commitment within the next few weeks so UW shouldn’t be kept in suspense too long and will have a chance to make alternate arrangements with Elijah Hardy or Xavier Johnson if things don’t work out." www.uwdawgpound.com/2017/8/9/16114594/basketball-recruiting-update-uw-washington-huskies-hopkins-zegarowski-penn-johnson-roberts
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Post by hoyaboya on Aug 10, 2017 13:35:58 GMT -5
Some more on Creighton and Washington...Johnson appears to be at best 2nd on Creighton's list of available 2018 point guards (behind MCW's brother Zegarowski) and third on UW's (behind Zegarowski and Elijah Hardy). "The Husky’s top target at point guard cut down his list on Tuesday and it’s obviously a good sign to see the purple W among the logos. The Dawgs have been a serious contender for Zegarowski for a long time and this only solidifies that status." "If UW is able to secure a commitment from Marcus it would mark the 3rd prospect heading from Northeast to Northwest in the last 4 months. Creighton is likely the favorite at this point but UW is still heavily in the mix. Zegarowski liked several pro-Creighton comments on the announcement of the cut down list including that of a current Creighton commit telling Marcus to join him. He said he’d like to make a commitment within the next few weeks so UW shouldn’t be kept in suspense too long and will have a chance to make alternate arrangements with Elijah Hardy or Xavier Johnson if things don’t work out." www.uwdawgpound.com/2017/8/9/16114594/basketball-recruiting-update-uw-washington-huskies-hopkins-zegarowski-penn-johnson-robertsAs of this week, Zegarowski said he even may be deciding soon (has already visited Creighton and Washington this summer), so it's possible/likely that one of Xavier Johnson's schools won't even host him for a visit that he scheduled: "For now Zegarowski says he isn't sure of any future visits, and he doesn't plan on waiting around to make a decision. 'I’m not sure about any other visits yet,' explained Zegarowski. 'We’ll see in a few weeks if I make any other visits. I want to commit as early possible so I don’t know yet.'" scout.com/college/basketball/recruiting/Article/Marcus-Zegarowski-talks-about-his-final-four-schools-105932284
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Post by hoyaboya on Aug 10, 2017 13:45:35 GMT -5
Steere was the first person on his twitter to encourage him to come to Creighton...assumed they were connected thru AAU, but it must be some other venue...hopefully, he's not overly influential in any case... Steere did the exact same thing this week with Marcus Zegarowski, who appears to be Creighton's #1 target at point guard in the class of 2018 and has already visited Omaha this summer.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2017 13:54:03 GMT -5
You have no clue on about 3-4 things you just listed as fact or close to fact... What is a "top tier non-blue blood"? There's no gimmies in recruiting... Top-tier non-blue boods in terms of recruiting (off the top of my head): Arizona, Oregon, Villanova, Ohio State, Texas, Michigan State, Syracuse, Maryland, just to name a few. Those are teams I wouldn't be surprised if we lost recruiting battles to for a local kid. What do I have no clue on that I'm reporting as fact? Are you saying Xavier Johnson doesn't have an open invitation to visit campus whenever he'd like? Because he certainly has taken more than one documented unofficial visit in the last 9 months. He plays a position of need. He's not a top 100 recruit and he's not being recruited by top tier programs. He's a hometown kid and plays for Team Takeover. What am I missing? 1) You don't know who invited him to Kenner. The school, the team he played for, a random friend? Can you tell us for sure? 2) You don't know if he has an open invitation to visit the school whenever, you're speculating 3) You don't know how hard they are recruiting him. You're acting like they are all over him, when In fact an article a couple pages back had him on quote not listing Hoyas as one of the 5 schools recruiting him the hardest. 4) You don't know what HIS priorities are when it comes to recruiting. 5) What does "Red carpet treatment" at Kenner mean? The staff can't even watch him play. Other HS kids have participated in Kenner. I think the Hoyas have a good shot, but they have a lot of work to do from everything I'm seeing/hearing and no OV definitely should give everyone pause.
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Post by Hoyas4Ever on Aug 10, 2017 13:56:38 GMT -5
IDK what his ranking has to do with anything. He has good options. These kids aren't numbers, they're individuals. Where he is ranked will have 0 effect on his decision. I'm always cautious about chances of reeling in a recruit, who isn't visiting your school for a official... The reason he's not using an official is because he lives in the same city, has already visited campus multiple times and has an open invitation to swing by whenever he feels like it. Are you also cautious about our chances of reeling in a recruit who's been given the red carpet treatment to play in the Kenner League? It appears we've done a pretty good job of pulling out all the stops for this kid. As far as numbers, my point is, he's not a kid that the blue bloods are recruiting and he's not a priority recruit for the top tier non-blue bloods. His list is Nebraska, Creighton, Washington, South Florida, Georgia Tech, and Georgetown. I stand by my comment, if we can't get the kid given the hometown angle and with those schools as our competition, something is very wrong. Hoyaboya it comes across that you are coming at Xavier Johnson recruiting from an emotional place instead of a logical perspective. What does Xavier playing in Kenner League have to do with the staff's recruiting push for him? Yes Xavier's been on campus multiple times in the past but that was under a different staff. There's no reports that Ewing's staff has had local product Xavier Johnson on campus for a face to face. Look at the facts. Xavier Johnson has set up 5 OV's with schools all across the country but has yet to set up an unofficial with the local program? If he's a massive priority, I think he would've been on campus to meet with the staff already or in the very near future and the staff would be trying to get him on campus multiple times. The staff has been hosting kids on unofficial visits almost daily but yet no reports of Xavier being one of them or even a schedule date of a visit. It's just the reported facts....We will see if it changes.
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