seaweed
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Post by seaweed on Sept 26, 2017 10:49:57 GMT -5
We don't need to allege bribery as a cause of our inability to recruit. yeah, the "inability" that brought in Blair, Pickett, Sodom in just a few months and retained Walker as well as scoring Carter to kick off '18. Senselessly negative sniping is unbecoming of an actual fan...
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Post by jld54 on Sept 26, 2017 11:14:23 GMT -5
We don't need to allege bribery as a cause of our inability to recruit. yeah, the "inability" that brought in Blair, Pickett, Sodom in just a few months and retained Walker as well as scoring Carter to kick off '18. Senselessly negative sniping is unbecoming of an actual fan... Agree 100%. I never got the sense that Johnson was coming here. After all, he never took an official visit, which seems odd, even if he is a local guy. We do not know why this was -- decision of the player, the staff or both --, but again, this may have been a tell tale sign. Also telling was the player's own statement that PE told him he had to work on his shot and defense, and his own admission that his shot was his weak spot. Given PE's stated goal of a pro-style 4 -out offense, and guy without a reliable outside shot would not fit the system. A guy like this may be better suited for a drive and dish type offense in which the PG strictly creates shots but is not relied upon to shoot from outside as much. Finally, perhaps the kid just wanted to go away to school. This is totally understandable, but to infer that this decision reflects negatively on the new staff is a bit over the top.
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Post by calhoya on Sept 26, 2017 11:26:04 GMT -5
Actually given all the circumstances, beginning with the disaster of a season last year, the termination of the coach, the lengthy hiring process of an inexperienced coach, new assistants, and players leaving the program, it is amazing that they were able to get Pickett. It is easy for other schools to recruit against the Hoyas right now given that the unknowns are so numerous, the expectations so low and the attendance mediocre. You cannot blame any kid for wanting to go elsewhere--even to Nebraska--rather than taking a chance on the unknown. Hopefully, the coach follows through with an appealing style of play and some success this season. I have hope that the Spring recruiting period is the real opportunity.
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Post by EtomicB on Sept 26, 2017 11:46:21 GMT -5
Actually given all the circumstances, beginning with the disaster of a season last year, the termination of the coach, the lengthy hiring process of an inexperienced coach, new assistants, and players leaving the program, it is amazing that they were able to get Pickett. It is easy for other schools to recruit against the Hoyas right now given that the unknowns are so numerous, the expectations so low and the attendance mediocre. You cannot blame any kid for not wanting to go elsewhere--even to Nebraska--rather than taking a chance on the unknown. Hopefully, the coach follows through with an appealing style of play and some success this season. I have hope that the Spring recruiting period is the real opportunity. It's well documented that Pickett wanted to play close to home, Gtown provided that plus a lot of early playing time.. It's also pretty easy to see the kid liked Gtown possibly a lot otherwise he wouldn't have included them on his final list of 6.. PE was iffy on Johnson and it's his choice to make but I think its shortsighted for a few reasons.. One of which is getting Waheed a local win..
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Post by LCPolo18 on Sept 26, 2017 11:58:28 GMT -5
One of which is getting Waheed a local win.. I agree that getting more momentum for Waheed would be great, but didn't Waheed lead for Pickett as well?
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Post by EtomicB on Sept 26, 2017 12:23:15 GMT -5
One of which is getting Waheed a local win.. I agree that getting more momentum for Waheed would be great, but didn't Waheed lead for Pickett as well? Pretty sure Waheed did lead for Pickett but when I said local, I really meant a TeamTakover/ WCAC win..
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Post by bostonfan on Sept 26, 2017 12:54:10 GMT -5
I agree that getting more momentum for Waheed would be great, but didn't Waheed lead for Pickett as well? Pretty sure Waheed did lead for Pickett but when I said local, I really meant a TeamTakover/ WCAC win.. I liked Johnson and thought he would be a great addition to the program, but there are dozens of reasons why a recruit doesn't select a certain school and the only people that know the real reasons for this situation are the staff and Johnson himself. You are not going to win every recruiting battle, even if you really want a player and do everything right, sometimes they just want to select another school. My bigger concern at this point is that it doesn't seem like they are heavily pursuing any other point guards and they are going to really need another PG next year. I understand that recruiting for the 18 class still has a long way to go but it seems like a lot of targets have made other choices already and I am not sure who is still on their list for PG's.
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Hoyas4Ever
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Post by Hoyas4Ever on Sept 26, 2017 13:08:14 GMT -5
Pretty sure Waheed did lead for Pickett but when I said local, I really meant a TeamTakover/ WCAC win.. I liked Johnson and thought he would be a great addition to the program, but there are dozens of reasons why a recruit doesn't select a certain school and the only people that know the real reasons for this situation are the staff and Johnson himself. You are not going to win every recruiting battle, even if you really want a player and do everything right, sometimes they just want to select another school. My bigger concern at this point is that it doesn't seem like they are heavily pursuing any other point guards and they are going to really need another PG next year. I understand that recruiting for the 18 class still has a long way to go but it seems like a lot of targets have made other choices already and I am not sure who is still on their list for PG's. Mosely and Blair's development is the key to what the staff does. Maybe the staff feel that they are good at the PG going forward. Could explain why the staff has only offered 3 total PG's (if my memory is correct) for the class of 18. If it's a major position of need as many on here have purported it to be, I would imagine the staff would have offered more than just 3 in the class. I do think the staff needs add a versatile ball handling playmaking guard/wing like a Jordan Phillips. Otherwise the roster will only have 2 true ball handlers/decision makers returning in 18-19 season.
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Post by blazers44 on Sept 26, 2017 13:09:48 GMT -5
What's the name of the other guard that had some Georgetown interest? Jones?
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Post by professorhoya on Sept 26, 2017 13:27:57 GMT -5
Was this the kid playing at Kenner? He was put on some scrub team while Keldon Johnson was put on a staked Georgetown team.
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Post by Elvado on Sept 26, 2017 13:38:17 GMT -5
There are two possibilities. We really wanted him but he liked Nebraska better, or we had moderate interest and it showed.
If it is the former, nothing we can do about it. If the latter, I will give the greatest player ever at GU the benefit of the doubt on that call.
Either way, he is not our player so..,
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Post by Lethal_Interjection on Sept 26, 2017 13:53:41 GMT -5
He was probably an undercover NU football fan, so the choice seemed easier for him.
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Sept 26, 2017 14:57:37 GMT -5
We are so desperate for a PG that we fans may have overhyped him. From the videos he looks athletic, but not someone to hand the keys to for the next four years.
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Post by AshantiCooksBurner on Jan 30, 2018 21:38:28 GMT -5
I am not mad at the current or former staff for not getting Xavier to come to the hilltop. You can't control where all of these guys want to go, but I saw Xavier play tonight against Dematha and he is exactly what we need.
Great ball handler, physically ready for the next level, gets into the lane with ease, finishes at the rim and has a solid outside shot.
Need to start locking down these WCAC fellas!
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Post by ewingitrust on Jan 30, 2018 23:37:14 GMT -5
I am not mad at the current or former staff for not getting Xavier to come to the hilltop. You can't control where all of these guys want to go, but I saw Xavier play tonight against Dematha and he is exactly what we need. Great ball handler, physically ready for the next level, gets into the lane with ease, finishes at the rim and has a solid outside shot. Need to start locking down these WCAC fellas! very very important and i feel the staff's taking steps to get that accomplished.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2018 11:58:59 GMT -5
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Apr 11, 2018 12:07:02 GMT -5
Unfortunately he'll probably just follow Hunter on to Uconn.
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Post by doublehoya0310 on Apr 11, 2018 12:08:10 GMT -5
Interesting... Having said that, if he does back out of his LOI (assuming Nebraska lets him), sounds like he'd be going to Hunter to UConn.
Still worth getting Pat in his ear again.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Apr 11, 2018 12:16:11 GMT -5
Recruiting is a 24/7/365 business.
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Post by hoyaboya on Apr 11, 2018 12:43:12 GMT -5
Would be a great addition, we should've prioritized him the first time around. AAU teammate of fellow spring signee Bryce Golden. I'd rather have this kid than Akinjo, long term would be better to have two Team Takeover/local Catholic School guys.
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