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Post by hoyas4lyfe on May 16, 2018 6:29:56 GMT -5
Akinjo was released and Patrick was in his living room 15 minutes later. If Bey is being considered by the Hoyas expect to hear something SOON. My gut is telling me there is no interest... I saw that he will be granted his release in about a week
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Post by LCPolo18 on May 16, 2018 8:19:35 GMT -5
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Post by LCPolo18 on May 16, 2018 8:22:58 GMT -5
Potentially more context about why he asked for his release.
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Post by hoyainla on May 16, 2018 9:43:33 GMT -5
Why would Bey wait to announce when it's so late in the process and why would NC State wait and risk what will be obvious negative recruiting now? Neither of those make much sense. They also needed to free up a scholarship. This same scenario happens in football all the time. I tend to believe Bey was the odd guy out when a bigger prize came along. As someone else mentioned just a few weeks ago he said he couldn't wait to get there. Bey didn’t announce anything, NC State made the announcement that the kid had asked for his release.. What doesn’t make sense is taking a wing grad transfer late and then pushing out a freshman wing for a big who can’t play next season anyway.. Look at their roster, they’re gonna need to actively chase wings in 2019.. I was the poster who talked about the Washington Post article where he said he couldn’t wait to get there but that was before I looked into it further.. The other scenario is that Bey had asked for his release and they weren't going to give it to him until they filled it which may be even worse. Just way too big of a coincidence that the day they go over and need the scholarship is the day they announce Bey is leaving. They already have Hellems in the class who is similar to Bey and most coaches would take the experienced 5 star over the much lower ranked unknown.
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Post by HoyaRejuveNation85 on May 16, 2018 10:17:21 GMT -5
This is a high level 4 star wing with a good motor, and a good kid from everything posted. If there's mutual interest, I'd get in there immediately. Except for a bigger player that the staff thinks would better fill an immediate need (and will sign), how do we not pursue him?
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Post by EtomicB on May 16, 2018 10:31:49 GMT -5
Bey didn’t announce anything, NC State made the announcement that the kid had asked for his release.. What doesn’t make sense is taking a wing grad transfer late and then pushing out a freshman wing for a big who can’t play next season anyway.. Look at their roster, they’re gonna need to actively chase wings in 2019.. I was the poster who talked about the Washington Post article where he said he couldn’t wait to get there but that was before I looked into it further.. The other scenario is that Bey had asked for his release and they weren't going to give it to him until they filled it which may be even worse. Just way too big of a coincidence that the day they go over and need the scholarship is the day they announce Bey is leaving. They already have Hellems in the class who is similar to Bey and most coaches would take the experienced 5 star over the much lower ranked unknown. How is that worse? You're also ignoring the fact that NC State grabbed a grad transfer wing from FIU on Monday.. This wasn't about the five star kid who plays a different position than Bey in my view..
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Post by bostonfan on May 16, 2018 10:49:15 GMT -5
The other scenario is that Bey had asked for his release and they weren't going to give it to him until they filled it which may be even worse. Just way too big of a coincidence that the day they go over and need the scholarship is the day they announce Bey is leaving. They already have Hellems in the class who is similar to Bey and most coaches would take the experienced 5 star over the much lower ranked unknown. How is that worse? You're also ignoring the fact that NC State grabbed a grad transfer wing from FIU on Monday.. This wasn't about the five star kid who plays a different position than Bey in my view.. I think it just highlights how crazy the entire college BB recruiting process is these days. I am sure the coaches are pretty well informed and things like this that happen at the last minute are not complete surprises, but from a fans perspective, you can't really feel comfortable about who is going to be on your team until the kids get on campus and start working out together. This is a really late de-commit for a player who I think was expected to be a contributor, on some level, for NC State this year.
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Post by hoyainla on May 16, 2018 11:29:02 GMT -5
The other scenario is that Bey had asked for his release and they weren't going to give it to him until they filled it which may be even worse. Just way too big of a coincidence that the day they go over and need the scholarship is the day they announce Bey is leaving. They already have Hellems in the class who is similar to Bey and most coaches would take the experienced 5 star over the much lower ranked unknown. How is that worse? You're also ignoring the fact that NC State grabbed a grad transfer wing from FIU on Monday.. This wasn't about the five star kid who plays a different position than Bey in my view.. How is it worse that NC State held a kid hostage until they were sure they needed his scholarship??? I'm done with this discussion. If it was one big coincidence and NC State knew all along they still handled it bad. Wish the best for Bey and if he wants to come here great, but I don't see that happening.
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Post by EtomicB on May 16, 2018 11:42:05 GMT -5
How is that worse? You're also ignoring the fact that NC State grabbed a grad transfer wing from FIU on Monday.. This wasn't about the five star kid who plays a different position than Bey in my view.. How is it worse that NC State held a kid hostage until they were sure they needed his scholarship??? I'm done with this discussion. If it was one big coincidence and NC State knew all along they still handled it bad. Wish the best for Bey and if he wants to come here great, but I don't see that happening. Your initial post implied that they pushed him out for a higher ranked player, the facts don't appear to back that theory up.. That's been my only point in our discussion..
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Post by ewingitrust on May 16, 2018 11:46:18 GMT -5
Should the staff pursue? I don't think the answer is cut and dry.
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Post by paranoia2 on May 16, 2018 11:54:08 GMT -5
My gut is telling me Patrick and the staff have a solid plan in place & quite possibly some elite level wing players in that plan. While Bey may be a very good player I could see his arrival possibly turn off an elite level wing player.
I have no inside info but truly believe in Patrick. I think he is building a championship level program. 2019 class will be very interesting to watch develop.
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2018 11:54:11 GMT -5
Should the staff pursue? I don't think the answer is cut and dry. There's some discussion about whether he'd even be receptive to an approach from the current staff. I'd give him a big thumbs up, but it doesn't sound like something that's going to happen.
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Post by blazers44 on May 16, 2018 12:00:25 GMT -5
Yea there's talk on the other board that there may be some bad blood or strained relationship between the coaching staff and Bey's camp. Sounds like someone didn't like the staff recruiting approach. I could see Maryland trying to get involved.
I don't know why, but it seems like it's alot easier for the staff to recruit outside the DMV than inside it. I don't get it. Hoyas have already lost out on Morsell and Moore. Anthony Harris doesn't look like a option either. We can't keep losing out on players like this in our backyard.
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Post by ewingitrust on May 16, 2018 12:13:45 GMT -5
Yea there's talk on the other board that there may be some bad blood or strained relationship between the coaching staff and Bey's camp. Sounds like someone didn't like the staff recruiting approach. I could see Maryland trying to get involved. I don't know why, but it seems like it's alot easier for the staff to recruit outside the DMV than inside it. I don't get it. Hoyas have already lost out on Morsell and Moore. Anthony Harris doesn't look like a option either. We can't keep losing out on players like this in our backyard. the "recruiting in the dmv" issue should have its own thread. But I think with Ewing at the helm we have a greater reach nationally on a recruitment level. This current class is an example of that.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on May 16, 2018 12:15:04 GMT -5
My gut is telling me Patrick and the staff have a solid plan in place & quite possibly some elite level wing players in that plan. While Bey may be a very good player I could see his arrival possibly turn off an elite level wing player. I have no inside info but truly believe in Patrick. I think he is building a championship level program. 2019 class will be very interesting to watch develop. I don't get the feeling this one will even be in play, but we need to shed the mentality that if we recruit Player A it will turn off elite Player B. While I want the elite guys as much as anybody else, we simply cannot be closed off to top 100 players simply because it might turn off other recruits. The best high-major programs don't have this mentality, why should we? While I realize the staff may not be looking for a wing to fill out the class of 2018, adding a top 100 player at this late stage would be phenomenal - if the staff feels he's a fit. Obviously, not every top 100 player is right for Georgetown, but I think the decision should be based more on that than what position he plays.
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Post by EtomicB on May 16, 2018 12:18:41 GMT -5
Should the staff pursue? I don't think the answer is cut and dry. To me it's a definite yes, he's a good player with some upside..
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Post by SaxaCD on May 16, 2018 12:22:54 GMT -5
My gut is telling me Patrick and the staff have a solid plan in place & quite possibly some elite level wing players in that plan. While Bey may be a very good player I could see his arrival possibly turn off an elite level wing player. I have no inside info but truly believe in Patrick. I think he is building a championship level program. 2019 class will be very interesting to watch develop. I don't get the feeling this one will even be in play, but we need to shed the mentality that if we recruit Player A it will turn off elite Player B. While I want the elite guys as much as anybody else, we simply cannot be closed off to top 100 players simply because it might turn off other recruits. The best high-major programs don't have this mentality, why should we? While I realize the staff may not be looking for a wing to fill out the class of 2018, adding a top 100 player at this late stage would be phenomenal - if the staff feels he's a fit. Obviously, not every top 100 player is right for Georgetown, but I think the decision should be based more on that than what position he plays. For me, not knowing all the inside stuff, of course, it was my biggest concern about the previous coaching staff. We seemed to put all the eggs in one basket a lot of the time, and then had to scramble when we were the runner-up. Seems like this staff has cast a much wider net, or have Plan B, C, D and so forth.
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Post by Problem of Dog on May 16, 2018 16:59:05 GMT -5
There is zero question that, if he's willing to come here, we should take Bey.
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Post by 95hoya on May 17, 2018 8:37:54 GMT -5
There is zero question that, if he's willing to come here, we should take Bey. Agreed. He might be the best player in our recruiting class. Definitely the player with the highest upside in my mind. I think we have a shot here.
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