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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Jan 13, 2018 8:37:10 GMT -5
The truth is, I don't think we need him to come in and score a ton right away. Just hit open shots and get his teammates good looks. Fundamentally sound basketball. We don't have that now.
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Post by prhoya on Jan 13, 2018 9:40:16 GMT -5
The truth is, I don't think we need him to come in and score a ton right away. Just hit open shots and get his teammates good looks. Fundamentally sound basketball. We don't have that now. So true. If he can hit open shots, he will need to be defended, and it will open the lane for everyone and take the pressure off Kaleb, Jagan, Pickett, Greg and Blair to hit the open 3s (which imo will improve their %). Also, with the lane less clogged, imo he’ll be able to go one on one to the rim or stop for a pull-up. If a defender leaves his assignment to help, Mac has vision and passing ability. Furthermore, if he knows how to protect the ball and defend at the college level, he’ll make the team much better than it is now.
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Post by michaelgrahmstylie on Jan 13, 2018 12:03:08 GMT -5
The key, in my opinion, would be for McClung to come and Derrickson and Govan to still be around.
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Post by jctnhoya4ever on Jan 15, 2018 16:29:01 GMT -5
I live about 30 minutes from gate city where Mac plays.i have saw him a few times,I don’t see him starting at point guard,I really don’t see him doing anything until 2-3 year.he can dunk,but against good competition he can’t do it.he is a mid major type player.he needs to handle ball better against top competition. I saw him in aau and against good aau teams he was shut down. I don’t see all the hype about him,I guess it’s his dunking. I hope I am wrong,I just don’t see this star player.he is not in top 250 in rankings. Prove me wrong please.go Hoyas.
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Post by hoya2x2010 on Jan 15, 2018 16:39:50 GMT -5
I live about 30 minutes from gate city where Mac plays.i have saw him a few times,I don’t see him starting at point guard,I really don’t see him doing anything until 2-3 year.he can dunk,but against good competition he can’t do it.he is a mid major type player.he needs to handle ball better against top competition. I saw him in aau and against good aau teams he was shut down. I don’t see all the hype about him,I guess it’s his dunking. I hope I am wrong,I just don’t see this star player.he is not in top 250 in rankings. Prove me wrong please.go Hoyas. Let’s hope he outperforms his (lack of) ranking. Output somewhere in between the low expectations put on him by experts and the inflated expectations of HT would be good news, imo.
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Post by dense on Jan 15, 2018 22:05:02 GMT -5
I live about 30 minutes from gate city where Mac plays.i have saw him a few times,I don’t see him starting at point guard,I really don’t see him doing anything until 2-3 year.he can dunk,but against good competition he can’t do it.he is a mid major type player.he needs to handle ball better against top competition. I saw him in aau and against good aau teams he was shut down. I don’t see all the hype about him,I guess it’s his dunking. I hope I am wrong,I just don’t see this star player.he is not in top 250 in rankings. Prove me wrong please.go Hoyas. Not to attack you, but you did say Tre Campbell was gonna leave after year 2 or 3 for the NBA. So Yea there is that too.
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Post by turbohoya on Jan 16, 2018 11:04:52 GMT -5
I live about 30 minutes from gate city where Mac plays.i have saw him a few times,I don’t see him starting at point guard,I really don’t see him doing anything until 2-3 year.he can dunk,but against good competition he can’t do it.he is a mid major type player.he needs to handle ball better against top competition. I saw him in aau and against good aau teams he was shut down. I don’t see all the hype about him,I guess it’s his dunking. I hope I am wrong,I just don’t see this star player.he is not in top 250 in rankings. Prove me wrong please.go Hoyas. I get that you saw him "live" (quotations not needed, just added to highlight how unique this particular poster's approach is) and everything but according to the people who watch a lot of videos he is better than what we have... Please keep your reality based assessment to a minimum while the board debates his highlight reel potential.
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Post by jctnhoya4ever on Jan 16, 2018 11:50:32 GMT -5
Tre Campbell had the talent not the heart,he didn’t want it bad enough,from what I hear about McClung he is a relentless worker and hates to loose.so I am thinking that will drive him to succeed,hopefully sooner then later.will have to see the big east is tough.we don’t have anyone right now except Mulmore that can really handle the ball against pressure defenses.dickerson not bad,Mosley and Blair can’t dribble against pressure without turning ball over.we need another point guard that can handle ball good. Hopefully McClung will help some off the bench. I hope he does well I am his biggest fan, I know how tough it is in big east every team has quick guards that pressure the ball. I am rooting for him. Go gu.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2018 11:57:57 GMT -5
I just wish the kid was playing against better comp... Hard to judge anything against that level of competition. Only thing I know is he works really hard and he killed when he played with the guys on his visit. While that's encouraging you would like to see that repeated a few time before being confident in saying this or that. Guess we will find out more in Kenner League.
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Post by 95hoya on Jan 16, 2018 12:04:23 GMT -5
I don't see the ability to create off the bounce or run the PnR at this level coming in. He needs to fine tune that jumper so he has a contributing skill while the other skills catch up. But putting the ball in his hands day one and not recruiting another PG is a mistake.
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Jan 16, 2018 13:01:00 GMT -5
We don't need him to be the next Iverson, just the next Wright or Braswell. 😉
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Post by prhoya on Jan 16, 2018 14:38:18 GMT -5
I just wish the kid was playing against better comp... Hard to judge anything against that level of competition. Only thing I know is he works really hard and he killed when he played with the guys on his visit. While that's encouraging you would like to see that repeated a few time before being confident in saying this or that. Guess we will find out more in Kenner League. IMO this summer's Kenner League will have the highest attendance since the Jeff Green years. Mac will draw crowds. The kid has the tools and is a gym rat. Great mix!
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Post by dense on Jan 16, 2018 14:48:11 GMT -5
I just wish the kid was playing against better comp... Hard to judge anything against that level of competition. Only thing I know is he works really hard and he killed when he played with the guys on his visit. While that's encouraging you would like to see that repeated a few time before being confident in saying this or that. Guess we will find out more in Kenner League. This is kinda the point I am making. I watched the games with Loaded that are online and I didnt see overwhelmed guard. I saw guy who was defferring more maybe because he was told to, maybe because he went from his league to this comp and it takes awhile to get to that speed.
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Post by Ranch Dressing on Jan 16, 2018 15:09:04 GMT -5
Mac possesses a unique blend of skills that, if honed and developed, will allow him to compete at the highest level within the Big East. He has in-line speed, lateral quicks, some jitterbug/shake to get free, a long-range spot-up jumper, a mid-range pull-up jumper, a floater, great hops, and the ability to finish at the hoop in traffic and with contact. On top of that, he seems to relish competition and being "the man" on his team, has an aggressive, fighting spirit on the court, and reportedly is a gym rat. It might take Mac awhile to fully acclimate to the next level given his lower-echelon high school competition, but I'd be surprised if he didn't contribute some meaningful minutes as a freshman. Perhaps the lack of recruiting accolades places a chip on Mac's shoulder and provides him with even more motivation to excel at the next level.
Btw, I'm not sure what else we need to see to make us think he can play Big East hoops. It's not like we have one highlight package of best plays taken from ~20 summer league games (which is what we typically see). We have 20+ highlights from almost every game he is playing this season and he is destroying the competition every game. I see a ton of Big East collegiate potential in the highlights.
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Post by 95hoya on Jan 16, 2018 15:51:22 GMT -5
Don't take it the wrong way, but YouTube highlights tell you almost nothing about a player's skill level.
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Post by bornhoya on Jan 16, 2018 17:04:26 GMT -5
We need him handle pressure hit the open jumper and make the right pass. I think the young guy can do it
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Post by hoya2x2010 on Jan 16, 2018 19:01:57 GMT -5
Tre Campbell had the talent not the heart,he didn’t want it bad enough,from what I hear about McClung he is a relentless worker and hates to loose.so I am thinking that will drive him to succeed,hopefully sooner then later.will have to see the big east is tough.we don’t have anyone right now except Mulmore that can really handle the ball against pressure defenses.dickerson not bad,Mosley and Blair can’t dribble against pressure without turning ball over.we need another point guard that can handle ball good. Hopefully McClung will help some off the bench. I hope he does well I am his biggest fan, I know how tough it is in big east every team has quick guards that pressure the ball. I am rooting for him. Go gu. Campbell was not just a "heart" away from the NBA. There were probably a couple thousand prospects ahead of him. Seriously, think about what you're saying.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Jan 16, 2018 19:11:55 GMT -5
Don't take it the wrong way, but YouTube highlights tell you almost nothing about a player's skill level. Very true. But posters who have far more recruiting knowledge than I do have watched more extensive film and are encouraged, so I will rely on their evaluations. I really don't think we have stopped recruiting PG's, just watching for the right fit.
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Post by hoyarooter on Jan 17, 2018 20:45:07 GMT -5
I just wish the kid was playing against better comp... Hard to judge anything against that level of competition. Only thing I know is he works really hard and he killed when he played with the guys on his visit. While that's encouraging you would like to see that repeated a few time before being confident in saying this or that. Guess we will find out more next year, since you can't rely on anything you see in Kenner League. Fixed it for you.
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Post by TC on Jan 18, 2018 9:17:08 GMT -5
Don't take it the wrong way, but YouTube highlights tell you almost nothing about a player's skill level. YouTube highlights are very valuable, people underrate them - - if the YouTube highlights don't show someone using their off hand, they can't use their off hand - if the YouTube highlights only show dunks, that kid can't shoot - if the YouTube highlights only show threes, you should wonder about athleticism and the ability to penetrate - if the YouTube highlights don't show defense, you need to wonder if the kid can play defense - if the YouTube highlights don't show dribbling, you need to worry about handle I've watched enough youtube footage of McClung to know that : - he's got more athleticism than any guard we've had since Demetrius Hunter - he can shoot from distance - gets good elevation on his jump, should be able to get his shot off at higher levels - he has decent handle - he's smart enough to know when not to challenge and to use the glass - has a decent midrange shot - can make a pass inside I don't understand what the problem people have with YouTube is here. It's not CGI, it's not a faked moon landing or some weird conspiracy, it's selective editing. If you approach the videos with a little bit of skepticism, you don't have to be a rocket scientist to make your own judgements. Watching these McClung videos is more fun than watching the team this year, some people are absolute masochists in dismissing the only fun thing going on in Hoya basketball.
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