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Post by glidehoyas (Inactive) on Jan 10, 2018 7:50:44 GMT -5
I completely agree with you - I didn't intend to make it seem like Malinowski was a ball handler. I 100% support the staff finding another ball handling guard - I just don't think it necessarily needs to be what some would consider a "true point guard." Or said another way, I don't think we have the luxury of being picky. Pat shouldn't waste a scholly on a 3 star Pg on Macs level just to use it. We don't have that luxury. That being said he better not be afraid to recruit over Mac if someone becomes available because of decommitment, coach firings etc. Thinking Mac is the answer is very dangerous Truth!!!
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Post by glidehoyas (Inactive) on Jan 10, 2018 7:54:54 GMT -5
If you give Mac the ball from day one and he can direct an offense that doesn't turn the ball over 25 times against a low pressure defensive team like Marquette, then he will be a net positive over our current point guard situation. The bar for him really isn't set very high No doubt for the simple reason he loves to attack the basket. He ain't scurrrrrrrrrred! When you know the right thing to do with the basketball you won't turn it over as much.
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Jan 10, 2018 7:59:42 GMT -5
Last night was a guard clinic on what not to do. It will be addition by subtraction next year. Agree, we do need more than just Mac.
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Post by bostonfan on Jan 10, 2018 9:01:43 GMT -5
I completely agree with you - I didn't intend to make it seem like Malinowski was a ball handler. I 100% support the staff finding another ball handling guard - I just don't think it necessarily needs to be what some would consider a "true point guard." Or said another way, I don't think we have the luxury of being picky. Pat shouldn't waste a scholly on a 3 star Pg on Macs level just to use it. We don't have that luxury. That being said he better not be afraid to recruit over Mac if someone becomes available because of decommitment, coach firings etc. Thinking Mac is the answer is very dangerous Not sure if bringing in another point guard would be a case of recruiting over Mac at this point. You look around college basketball these days and it seems like a lot of teams are playing with two guys who would be considered PG's at the same time. You look at Arizona State and it seems like they have about 4 guys who I would consider point guards and they are always playing together. Having multiple players on the floor at the same time who are capable of handling the ball, beating their defender off the dribble and making plays for their teammates is becoming a requirement these days. I am not sure if Mac is really a point guard or not and I would expect him to struggle at times as a freshman next year if they ask him to play that role (like all freshman struggle at times) so having another quality ball handler on the team seems to make good sense for everyone.
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Post by hoyalove4ever on Jan 10, 2018 9:08:21 GMT -5
Mac and Jagan should be locked in McDonough (NOT the new gym) and forced to do dribbling drills (two balls at once, one hand tied behind your back, and all sorts of other crazy stuff) for the entire summer. AC optional.
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Post by goyahoya69 on Jan 10, 2018 9:11:57 GMT -5
Do ppl really believe that McClung is already or (in 10 months) will be better than jagan? I respectfully, but vehemently, disagree.
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Post by hoyalove4ever on Jan 10, 2018 9:35:06 GMT -5
I do not believe that- but I believe that he can contribute and will add depth to the backcourt.
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Post by turbohoya on Jan 10, 2018 9:36:18 GMT -5
Do ppl really believe that McClung is already or (in 10 months) will be better than jagan? I respectfully, but vehemently, disagree. I agree - and again, not as a knock on Mac - but the videos of him dribbling circles around kids on youtube are fun and all but to expect that he can hold his own against a player the caliber of Ponds (whom Jagan struggled quite a bit against) right now is absurd and sets expectations for the kid way too high...
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Jan 10, 2018 9:46:19 GMT -5
I think Mac has a better handle than any of our current guards, including Mosely. We don't have a guard on our team that can handle real pressure.
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Post by EtomicB on Jan 10, 2018 9:46:48 GMT -5
I completely agree with you - I didn't intend to make it seem like Malinowski was a ball handler. I 100% support the staff finding another ball handling guard - I just don't think it necessarily needs to be what some would consider a "true point guard." Or said another way, I don't think we have the luxury of being picky. Pat shouldn't waste a scholly on a 3 star Pg on Macs level just to use it. We don't have that luxury. That being said he better not be afraid to recruit over Mac if someone becomes available because of decommitment, coach firings etc. Thinking Mac is the answer is very dangerous To me its not about Mac's level, its about getting players better than what Gtown currently has on the roster.. The staff could hit lotto by bringing in Anfernee Simons but that won't mean they "recruited over" Mac because he has a good chance to beat out returning players for PT next season.. Recruiting should be about upgrading the roster, right now an unranked kid could do that given how depleted the back court is..
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Post by TC on Jan 10, 2018 10:04:46 GMT -5
You know you're following the McClung thread way too much when you're like "oh nice, George got a bucket, usually only Dean and Ervin score". I try to follow the recruiting threads, but I don't think I remember a time when I knew the entire starting roster for a recruit's HS team.
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Post by bigskyhoya on Jan 10, 2018 10:06:30 GMT -5
Do ppl really believe that McClung is already or (in 10 months) will be better than jagan? I respectfully, but vehemently, disagree. Looks like he is a better offensively, no?
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Post by FromTheBeginning on Jan 10, 2018 10:07:26 GMT -5
Mac looks to me to be the kind of kid that thinks he can beat out anyone for playing time - he's got the good kind of swagger rooted in performance and would look at a higher ranked kid as a challenge instead of an obstacle.
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Post by centercourt400s on Jan 10, 2018 10:12:37 GMT -5
I think Mac has a better handle than any of our current guards, including Mosely. We don't have a guard on our team that can handle real pressure. It certainly seems he's a much better shooter than Mosley is as well. If Mac isn't starting to open the season he will probably be by some point. He's the answer to the need for backcourt point production. I do think it is likely that Mosley will be our primary ball-handler though.
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Post by hoyainla on Jan 10, 2018 10:35:42 GMT -5
Pat shouldn't waste a scholly on a 3 star Pg on Macs level just to use it. We don't have that luxury. That being said he better not be afraid to recruit over Mac if someone becomes available because of decommitment, coach firings etc. Thinking Mac is the answer is very dangerous To me its not about Mac's level, its about getting players better than what Gtown currently has on the roster.. The staff could hit lotto by bringing in Anfernee Simons but that won't mean they "recruited over" Mac because he has a good chance to beat out returning players for PT next season.. Recruiting should be about upgrading the roster, right now an unranked kid could do that given how depleted the back court is.. The problem is limited scholarships. Yes if we got a player in Mac's level would they make the team better next year, maybe. You can't have all your guards being on Mac's level and think you are going to compete in the BE and get back to the level we were at not long ago. This is not to say Mac won't be a underrated kid that hits or that the next kid at his level won't, but if you keep recruiting at his level the chances are not in our favor.
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Post by hoyainla on Jan 10, 2018 10:45:21 GMT -5
I am searching through all of the recruiting threads to see when Patrick said Mac is the answer, he is getting the keys for the next 4 years and there is no need to try to recruit any PG's. Could somebody help me out please? The signal for me is that he has offered exactly 1 PG in 2019 who happens to be the #1 who we have to beat all the big boys for. He's managed to offer 13 wing type players for 2019 which we already have plenty of. He's also offered 6 C which is needed as well. Not sure exactly what that means but I know based on our current roster I don't like it.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Jan 10, 2018 11:43:48 GMT -5
Do ppl really believe that McClung is already or (in 10 months) will be better than jagan? I respectfully, but vehemently, disagree. I agree - and again, not as a knock on Mac - but the videos of him dribbling circles around kids on youtube are fun and all but to expect that he can hold his own against a player the caliber of Ponds (whom Jagan struggled quite a bit against) right now is absurd and sets expectations for the kid way too high... There's a huge gap in talent between who he's playing and Ponds. And what I mean by that is -- no, I don't expect him to be killing Ponds next year. But I do expect him to be able to drive against a lot of Big East guards.
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Post by OldHoyafan on Jan 10, 2018 11:44:14 GMT -5
I am searching through all of the recruiting threads to see when Patrick said Mac is the answer, he is getting the keys for the next 4 years and there is no need to try to recruit any PG's. Could somebody help me out please? The signal for me is that he has offered exactly 1 PG in 2019 who happens to be the #1 who we have to beat all the big boys for. He's managed to offer 13 wing type players for 2019 which we already have plenty of. He's also offered 6 C which is needed as well. Not sure exactly what that means but I know based on our current roster I don't like it. I hope this is not the case also. If Ewing sees McClung as his pg next year, he still needs another pg that can handle the ball(can dribble efficiently with both hands and can navigate in the lane in traffic). It does not have to be a 4 star pg that is also big time scorer. It can be a player like the Brown kid who played with Mourning, who could drive the lane and move the defense and clear the way for Mourning to get the put back when he missed his shot. I like Moseley’s makeup but unless he carries a basketball with him to and from class dribbling as he walks with both hands this summer, he won’t be the answer next year either.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Jan 10, 2018 11:47:06 GMT -5
Folks, we go into next year with only four real guards on the roster, and none of them are currently starting (Kaleb is not really a guard). None of them beside McClung is anything close to a PG. Playing time is up for grabs, and one more recruit ain't changing that.
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