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Post by glidehoyas (Inactive) on Dec 5, 2017 14:22:41 GMT -5
I guess people don't read. I acknowledged it was a small sample size, and said that at least once, and I think twice. I also acknowledged he'd likely foul less with more minutes. So I am not assuming he will foul that much forever - if he did, he'd be one of the worst players at drawing fouls ever, and I don't expect him to be close to that. But since glide cannot continue this discussion without insulting everybody who disagrees with him, I'm done here for now. Not worth it. Don't even try that blame game ish here pal. You're the one assuming something that didn't even happen! I insulted everyone that disagreed with me? LOL. Naw, just you maybe. Learn the game before you assume. I don't like assumers. They make my blood boil. lol Maybe you're "assuming" is not worth it. FOULS FOULS FOULS FOULS ...BLOCKS, PASSING, REBOUNDING, FOUL SHOOTING AND SHOOTING TOUCH. HMMM. LIKE I SAID LIST ALL STATS NOT JUST FOULS!
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Post by glidehoyas (Inactive) on Dec 5, 2017 14:23:49 GMT -5
I think a better comparison for Sodom is probably Henry Sims, who played 10 minutes a game for the meltdown-at-Duke team his first year. For what it's worth, Sims' minutes his sophomore year actually declined to 6.8 minutes per game. Point? Didn't Henry say he didn't like bball at one point on the Hilltop. smh How soon we forget. WHO ARE SOME OF THESE PEOPLE IN HERE? ?
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Post by nychoya3 on Dec 5, 2017 14:24:30 GMT -5
I know you all are saying our record this year doesn't matter and all that but if we were currently sitting on two losses to, say, Richmond and Coppin State, you all would be freaking the heck out.
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Post by TC on Dec 5, 2017 14:34:59 GMT -5
I think a better comparison for Sodom is probably Henry Sims, who played 10 minutes a game for the meltdown-at-Duke team his first year. For what it's worth, Sims' minutes his sophomore year actually declined to 6.8 minutes per game. I think a large part of the argument here is situational and that this team is not good and not going to contend. Henry Sims' sophomore year, he wasn't very good, but the team was outstanding and was a total juggernaut until Freeman's bout at the hospital and diabetes diagnosis.
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Post by TC on Dec 5, 2017 14:42:02 GMT -5
I know you all are saying our record this year doesn't matter and all that but if we were currently sitting on two losses to, say, Richmond and Coppin State, you all would be freaking the heck out. The board would be freaking out, yes. Pretty sure Glide would not be, because I've read him during board meltdowns and he tends to be optimistic and positive.
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Post by glidehoyas (Inactive) on Dec 5, 2017 14:43:44 GMT -5
I know you all are saying our record this year doesn't matter and all that but if we were currently sitting on two losses to, say, Richmond and Coppin State, you all would be freaking the heck out. The board would be freaking out, yes. Pretty sure Glide would not be, because I've read him during board meltdowns and he tends to be optimistic and positive. I'd probably be with the rest on this one though LOL..
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Post by 95hoya on Dec 5, 2017 15:10:35 GMT -5
In addition to being a self appointed expert on point guards, glide is now an expert on big men. Surprised PE didn't bring him on staff.
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Post by Filo on Dec 5, 2017 16:20:27 GMT -5
Glide, you're a great basketball poster and you have seen way more of Sodom than I have. But you are in the minority here and you might be right. But everything the majority of us have seen in the early season suggests Ewing has very sound reasons to focus on Govan right now and not force Sodom into the rotation. If Ewing weren't literally the most qualified big man coach potentially in all of basketball, would we think differently? Possibly yes and I admit that. But right now, I'm very willing to trust his judgement based on Sodom's early play. The ones that agree seem to know the game. Hmmm. The ones that don't are either assuming or plain ole don't know the game of basketball. There are more folks here that don't know the game than do. Period. I've seen it over the years. People said I was wrong about what the Hoyas problem was. I mentioned guard play. People ridiculed me. But when other's started saying it especially the media folks made me look like a genius. YOU? I'm about the same age as Ewing. While he was playing I was coaching. I will not apologize. I totally respect Ewing. Just like coach Ewing said he's his own coach, I am as well. I tried this dozens of times before in camps, scrimmages and games. You cannot develop sitting on the damn bench period especially during cupcake season. Get real man. I feel the same way when I argue with someone. Everyone who agrees with me knows exactly what they are talking about, and those that don't agree with me have no idea what they are talking about. It's a winning attitude!
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Post by seaweed on Dec 5, 2017 16:24:08 GMT -5
Hmph, I don't believe that! The little time he played he played well. Stop it! The guy has played 18 minutes, and has gotten 8 fouls. That's not playing well. As for those clamoring for more playing time, he's fouled so much, realistically he wouldn't last very long in a game anyway. That's why I am skeptical he would be able to fill in for Govan in foul trouble anyway. Sodom might very well contribute in the future, maybe even this season, he just has a lot of work to do. Keep in mind Hibbert was pretty awful his freshman year too. I am not saying Sodom will ever be as good as Hibbert, but it shows that big men can develop fairly quickly depending on talent level/effort. 8 fouls in 6 games? We've wasted 22 fouls of PT
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Post by centercourt400s on Dec 5, 2017 17:20:16 GMT -5
Glide, we know you're a good fan but so are most of the others here. Your recent posts in this thread look like you are going to either break your keyboard or pop a vein... count to 3... deep breaths... its a long season, we can't lose you at this early point There is obviously a lot going on behind the scenes that we aren't aware of regarding practice performance, results, player development, and playing time. Who knows what is limiting his time right now? As others have said if there is anyone to trust with how to develop a big man prospect, it has to be Pat Ewing. Pure speculation but I agree that maybe Ewing's idea is that for the team as a whole it is more important for Govan to work on playing consistently and for long stretches than for Sodom to get some of his minutes right now. BTW, since Sodom is on the team now, shouldn't there be a thread about him outside of the recruiting board?
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Post by dchoya72 on Dec 5, 2017 18:09:11 GMT -5
Why micro manage the coach? I believe in Patrick. Give him time.
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Post by professorhoya on Dec 5, 2017 19:11:27 GMT -5
I think the best way to utilize Sodom if you are going to play him right now is to have a Twin Towers with Govan. The problem right now is you lose all your offense when you take Govan out and Sodom provides zero offense right now. But if you have them both on at the same time it allows Sodom to be the eraser on defense with Govan concentrating on DREB, and then on offense Sodom cleans the glass from the weakside while Govan pops 3s or hook shots down low.
Essentially it's a Bill Laimbeer/John Salley tandem with Govan playing the Laimbeer roll and Sodom the John Salley roll.
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Post by hoyarooter on Dec 5, 2017 20:24:43 GMT -5
The ones that agree seem to know the game. Hmmm. The ones that don't are either assuming or plain ole don't know the game of basketball. There are more folks here that don't know the game than do. Period. I've seen it over the years. People said I was wrong about what the Hoyas problem was. I mentioned guard play. People ridiculed me. But when other's started saying it especially the media folks made me look like a genius. YOU? I'm about the same age as Ewing. While he was playing I was coaching. I will not apologize. I totally respect Ewing. Just like coach Ewing said he's his own coach, I am as well. I tried this dozens of times before in camps, scrimmages and games. You cannot develop sitting on the damn bench period especially during cupcake season. Get real man. I feel the same way when I argue with someone. Everyone who agrees with me knows exactly what they are talking about, and those that don't agree with me have no idea what they are talking about. It's a winning attitude! Welcome to the board, Mr. President!
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Post by glidehoyas (Inactive) on Dec 6, 2017 8:29:16 GMT -5
The ones that agree seem to know the game. Hmmm. The ones that don't are either assuming or plain ole don't know the game of basketball. There are more folks here that don't know the game than do. Period. I've seen it over the years. People said I was wrong about what the Hoyas problem was. I mentioned guard play. People ridiculed me. But when other's started saying it especially the media folks made me look like a genius. YOU? I'm about the same age as Ewing. While he was playing I was coaching. I will not apologize. I totally respect Ewing. Just like coach Ewing said he's his own coach, I am as well. I tried this dozens of times before in camps, scrimmages and games. You cannot develop sitting on the damn bench period especially during cupcake season. Get real man. I feel the same way when I argue with someone. Everyone who agrees with me knows exactly what they are talking about, and those that don't agree with me have no idea what they are talking about. It's a winning attitude! Didn't say everyone that doesn't agree with me doesn't know the game. This assuming stuff is crazy. lol
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Post by glidehoyas (Inactive) on Dec 6, 2017 8:30:49 GMT -5
Why micro manage the coach? I believe in Patrick. Give him time. I don't think we're micro managing but just giving our own opinions as fans, coaches, etc.
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Post by glidehoyas (Inactive) on Dec 6, 2017 8:34:00 GMT -5
Glide, we know you're a good fan but so are most of the others here. Your recent posts in this thread look like you are going to either break your keyboard or pop a vein... count to 3... deep breaths... its a long season, we can't lose you at this early point There is obviously a lot going on behind the scenes that we aren't aware of regarding practice performance, results, player development, and playing time. Who knows what is limiting his time right now? As others have said if there is anyone to trust with how to develop a big man prospect, it has to be Pat Ewing. Pure speculation but I agree that maybe Ewing's idea is that for the team as a whole it is more important for Govan to work on playing consistently and for long stretches than for Sodom to get some of his minutes right now. BTW, since Sodom is on the team now, shouldn't there be a thread about him outside of the recruiting board? LOL, geez man. But, I hear you, I just want to see the 7'3" fella get more minutes that's all.
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Post by aggypryd on Apr 16, 2018 18:44:46 GMT -5
What's the story on Chris? Does he have anything lined up?
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Post by justsaying on May 12, 2018 16:33:41 GMT -5
Self Control is the only thing that kept this young man from being with this group that Coach Ew is trying to assemble.
I think he had edge and attitude, Coach would have improved the skills but must have self control.
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Post by prhoya on May 12, 2018 16:38:18 GMT -5
Where will Chris turn up? That is the question.
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Post by dchoya72 on May 12, 2018 17:43:29 GMT -5
Where will Chris turn up? That is the question. Good question...where did he go or where is he going? It seems like something would be revealed on twitter or some other platform.
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