bamahoya11
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Post by bamahoya11 on Apr 6, 2017 18:58:50 GMT -5
Here's the thing -- I would really like Waters to come here. If he comes, I will welcome him, cheer for him, and, if he graduates, do everything I can to support him as a fellow alum. If he doesn't want to be here and doesn't view this as the right choice for him, I hope he passes. One of the most important things Ewing can do is a new coach is try to get people here but also ensure that the folks who are coming want to be a part of this. As he said yesterday, this isn't going to be easy every step of the way. There will be adversity, and if he's not up for that, I hope he goes somewhere else. I've never been one to take to Twitter to try to tell a kid what to do, but I will tell him this -- if you go to Georgetown, I'll be up there screaming for you in the fall.
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Post by bicentennial on Apr 6, 2017 19:15:10 GMT -5
HoyaPTSD! Perfect description glide! I think you may have just nailed the perfect shirt for next year! Hoya Paranoia on the front, Hoya PTSD on the back!
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Post by hoyacane11 on Apr 6, 2017 20:18:53 GMT -5
Waters was just granted a full release from his LOI.
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KHoyaNYC
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Post by KHoyaNYC on Apr 6, 2017 20:23:29 GMT -5
Guessing Ewing not going to Connecticut now? Sounds like they talked already and Waters is out for sure?
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TC
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Post by TC on Apr 6, 2017 20:46:49 GMT -5
He better be going. We kept this kid on hold for a month for a reason. If Ewing's too busy doing media that he can't even get down to CT to try to woo the best recruit we've had in years, why should I have any faith in him?
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lda05816
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Post by lda05816 on Apr 6, 2017 20:50:46 GMT -5
He better be going. We kept this kid on hold for a month for a reason. If Ewing's too busy doing media that he can't even get down to CT to try to woo the best recruit we've had in years, why should I have any faith in him? Not sure we should base our opinion of Ewing on his ability to convince a recruit to stay only a few days into the job.
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Post by GIGAFAN99 on Apr 6, 2017 20:51:04 GMT -5
He better be going. We kept this kid on hold for a month for a reason. If Ewing's too busy doing media that he can't even get down to CT to try to woo the best recruit we've had in years, why should I have any faith in him? I agree. Go talk to him. Make him stutter if he decides to say "Coach Calipari, good news..."
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TC
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Post by TC on Apr 6, 2017 20:53:06 GMT -5
He better be going. We kept this kid on hold for a month for a reason. If Ewing's too busy doing media that he can't even get down to CT to try to woo the best recruit we've had in years, why should I have any faith in him? Not sure we should base our opinion of Ewing on his ability to convince a recruit to stay only a few days into the job. Oh no, I'm judging on whether he actually goes to CT or stays in DC to do media.
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KHoyaNYC
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Post by KHoyaNYC on Apr 6, 2017 20:53:18 GMT -5
He better be going. We kept this kid on hold for a month for a reason. If Ewing's too busy doing media that he can't even get down to CT to try to woo the best recruit we've had in years, why should I have any faith in him? That was harsh. Ewing has been nothing but great so far. I was simply suggesting perhaps Waters already told Georgetown he isn't changing his mind and that's why there was tonight's announcement re his LOI.
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lda05816
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Post by lda05816 on Apr 6, 2017 20:56:18 GMT -5
Not sure we should base our opinion of Ewing on his ability to convince a recruit to stay only a few days into the job. Oh no, I'm judging on whether he actually goes to CT or stays in DC to do media. I sure hope that's not the case either. I just think the kid wants out and there's not much chance Ewing can do anything to get him back.
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tashoya
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Post by tashoya on Apr 6, 2017 20:57:27 GMT -5
So now we should visit the homes of kids to which we may not be invited? Interesting take.
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TC
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Post by TC on Apr 6, 2017 20:58:36 GMT -5
So now we should visit the homes of kids to which we may not be invited? Interesting take. Why would we grant a kid a release without the courtesy of a meeting? If we're playing the hypothetical "maybe he didn't want us to come", well, that's part of the deal. And yeah, maybe it looked unlikely, but you still go make the effort.
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Post by tashoya on Apr 6, 2017 21:00:40 GMT -5
So now we should visit the homes of kids to which we may not be invited? Interesting take. Why would we grant a kid a release without the courtesy of a meeting? If we're playing the hypothetical "maybe he didn't want us to come", well, that's part of the deal. You grant the release because it's the right thing to do. Especially considering the coaching change.
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TC
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Post by TC on Apr 6, 2017 21:01:34 GMT -5
Why would we grant a kid a release without the courtesy of a meeting? If we're playing the hypothetical "maybe he didn't want us to come", well, that's part of the deal. You grant the release because it's the right thing to do. Especially considering the coaching change. Absolutely. And they do the meeting, because it's the right thing to do, especially considering the coaching change.
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KHoyaNYC
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Post by KHoyaNYC on Apr 6, 2017 21:03:18 GMT -5
So now we should visit the homes of kids to which we may not be invited? Interesting take. Why would we grant a kid a release without the courtesy of a meeting? If we're playing the hypothetical "maybe he didn't want us to come", well, that's part of the deal. Really? What's next on your list?
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tashoya
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Post by tashoya on Apr 6, 2017 21:03:36 GMT -5
You grant the release because it's the right thing to do. Especially considering the coaching change. Absolutely. And they do the meeting, because it's the right thing to do, especially considering the coaching change. I'm saying that, regardless of anything else, you grant the release. IMO, it should have been done a week ago at minimum. What happens after that, happens. If you're trying to present your program in the best light, the release should have been much faster in coming to show that you're acting in good faith as opposed to waiting on the hiring of a new coach. It's got a little Patty Hearst twinge to it this way.
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TC
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Post by TC on Apr 6, 2017 21:06:19 GMT -5
If it was "the right thing to do", we would have granted the release three weeks ago.
We held him up for three weeks for one reason - to talk to the new coach. If Ewing didn't bother to go make the case personally, that's malpractice. I don't know if any of us know whether he's still going tomorrow or not, so this could be arguing about nothing. But going to CT is something you absolutely have to do.
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Post by cosmopolitanhoya on Apr 6, 2017 21:20:36 GMT -5
Big time players make big time plays; big time coaches make those big time players to come
If Tremont is considered as one of those big time players capable of making big time plays, do whatever it takes to get him to come - that is essentially the first step in building a successful program.
If Tremont is just one of those decent guards, no need to go that far.
Hope Ewing can make his own judgment about how important Tremont is, and make plays to get him or give up on him.
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Post by swhoya on Apr 6, 2017 21:21:32 GMT -5
If it was "the right thing to do", we would have granted the release three weeks ago. We held him up for three weeks for one reason - to talk to the new coach. If Ewing didn't bother to go make the case personally, that's malpractice. I don't know if any of us know whether he's still going tomorrow or not, so this could be arguing about nothing. But going to CT is something you absolutely have to do. Can we all just take a deep breath and wait and see if PE goes and how it goes before we launch into how horrible it is if he doesn't go, even though we don't know if he's going, but to be clear it would just be THE END OF THE WORLD if he doesn't go! Seriously. I know it's been rough, but can we just give the man 5 minutes before we start stating what a hypothetical will mean for the next 15 years of the program?
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Apr 6, 2017 21:27:53 GMT -5
Patrick already said he was going to Connecticut tomorrow. The only reason he would NOT be going is if Waters has made it clear that he is no longer interested in or willing to consider Georgetown. To suggest that Ewing not going would signal a conscious decision and preference by him to make the media rounds instead has absolutely zero basis, and in my opinion reeks of fan malpractice.
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