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Post by blueandgray on May 15, 2024 17:35:38 GMT -5
Appears we are out on Dainja given Memphis upped his offer. If so, it’s extremely concerning that we can’t put together a top bid for position of extreme need on this roster. Ed can’t punt on this year and hope to carry momentum into year 3. We need a center and we need that center to be top half caliber in the BE. We were super aggressive. This isn’t on Cooley. |
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Post by hoyaboya on May 15, 2024 17:45:23 GMT -5
Appears we are out on Dainja given Memphis upped his offer. If so, it’s extremely concerning that we can’t put together a top bid for position of extreme need on this roster. Ed can’t punt on this year and hope to carry momentum into year 3. We need a center and we need that center to be top half caliber in the BE. We were super aggressive. This isn’t on Cooley. Who is it on then? Are we going to blame the 21-year old and make him the villain? He's just part of the system that Cooley said he was going to be able to exploit to the tune of talking to Ian Eagle on Monday nights in April. |
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Post by SFHoya99 on May 15, 2024 17:48:55 GMT -5
We were super aggressive. This isn’t on Cooley. Who is it on then? Are we going to blame the 21-year old and make him the villain? He's just part of the system that Cooley said he was going to be able to exploit to the tune of talking to Ian Eagle on Monday nights in April. Not everything needs someone to blame. I realize that's how a lot of you live your life, but it's neither true to reality nor particularly healthy. |
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Post by nbhoya on May 15, 2024 18:22:47 GMT -5
How can we not out bid Memphis when they’re paying for Cisse too?
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Post by conshyhoya on May 15, 2024 18:41:23 GMT -5
How can we not out bid Memphis when they’re paying for Cisse too? Do you have any actual knowledge that we even tried to get Dainja and if we did we were outbid? A lot of rumors out there with no actual truth. |
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Post by trillesthoya on May 15, 2024 18:46:29 GMT -5
How can we not out bid Memphis when they’re paying for Cisse too? Cisse reportedly has serious credits issues and could only attend Memphis. Dont think they had to pay much if anything for him and he’s going to Memphis as their backup C. |
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Post by bluechi on May 15, 2024 19:02:28 GMT -5
We were super aggressive. This isn’t on Cooley. Who is it on then? Are we going to blame the 21-year old and make him the villain? He's just part of the system that Cooley said he was going to be able to exploit to the tune of talking to Ian Eagle on Monday nights in April. No, don't think BG is saying that. Let's just say that people not named Ed Cooley talked a little too much and screwed up the situation. |
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Post by bluechi on May 15, 2024 19:10:24 GMT -5
I assume that is not us...? Must be Georgetown College...right? Gotta be the Kentucky one. need a big backup guard a la Bacote (who i know wasnt big). along with a center. |
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Post by bluechi on May 15, 2024 19:13:45 GMT -5
Epps loves this kid and coach thinks he could make him into double double machine. More to come. Who’s next? He’s running around the country telling every alum at every fundraiser that we need a five and we’re getting a five. Cannot bring Cook back And expect to be better defensively on the interior. Worst defender in the big east per Evan Miya. I’ve been pretty optimistic and like Cooley a lot , but addressing this need should’ve been the first priority in the portal not the last. There's layers to all this. You know that. Best Cooley can do is not tell anybody anything because the chirpers have failed him. |
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Post by hoyaboya on May 15, 2024 19:17:54 GMT -5
Who’s next? He’s running around the country telling every alum at every fundraiser that we need a five and we’re getting a five. Cannot bring Cook back And expect to be better defensively on the interior. Worst defender in the big east per Evan Miya. I’ve been pretty optimistic and like Cooley a lot , but addressing this need should’ve been the first priority in the portal not the last. There's layers to all this. You know that. Best Cooley can do is not tell anybody anything because the chirpers have failed him. Yes, Cooley definitely needs to chirp less. People are going to start getting the idea that he might not be the most trustworthy guy. |
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Post by bluechi on May 15, 2024 19:59:37 GMT -5
There's layers to all this. You know that. Best Cooley can do is not tell anybody anything because the chirpers have failed him. Yes, Cooley definitely needs to chirp less. People are going to start getting the idea that he might not be the most trustworthy guy. Not what i said. You know that. |
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Post by hoya01 on May 15, 2024 20:18:01 GMT -5
Appears we are out on Dainja given Memphis upped his offer. If so, it’s extremely concerning that we can’t put together a top bid for position of extreme need on this roster. Ed can’t punt on this year and hope to carry momentum into year 3. We need a center and we need that center to be top half caliber in the BE. We were super aggressive. This isn’t on Cooley. Any sense where the staff pivots to now? Do you think they are still looking at the available 5 options in the portal, or aside from Oyenso, best option is to go with Fielder and Sorber to develop them? |
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Post by madgesiq92 on May 15, 2024 21:40:38 GMT -5
Who’s next? He’s running around the country telling every alum at every fundraiser that we need a five and we’re getting a five. Cannot bring Cook back And expect to be better defensively on the interior. Worst defender in the big east per Evan Miya. I’ve been pretty optimistic and like Cooley a lot , but addressing this need should’ve been the first priority in the portal not the last. There's layers to all this. You know that. Best Cooley can do is not tell anybody anything because the chirpers have failed him. Dianja not coming has nothing to do with “chippers” —- he gave Memphis a last look and they matched. |
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Post by bluechi on May 15, 2024 22:18:20 GMT -5
There's layers to all this. You know that. Best Cooley can do is not tell anybody anything because the chirpers have failed him. Dianja not coming has nothing to do with “chippers” —- he gave Memphis a last look and they matched. -- it does have to do with chirpers and talk-too-muchers. |
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Post by bluechi on May 15, 2024 22:19:37 GMT -5
We were super aggressive. This isn’t on Cooley. Any sense where the staff pivots to now? Do you think they are still looking at the available 5 options in the portal, or aside from Oyenso, best option is to go with Fielder and Sorber to develop them? Sorber will bulk up with muscle and beast out. Fielder too. But i think Ed gets someone else for the block. |
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Post by prhoya on May 16, 2024 1:41:23 GMT -5
Appears we are out on Dainja given Memphis upped his offer. If so, it’s extremely concerning that we can’t put together a top bid for position of extreme need on this roster. Ed can’t punt on this year and hope to carry momentum into year 3. We need a center and we need that center to be top half caliber in the BE. We were super aggressive. This isn’t on Cooley. Your “it’s gonna happen” & “feeling good” posts are bringing back memories of the Nerlens Noel saga and balla feeling good… |
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Post by madgesiq92 on May 16, 2024 5:47:49 GMT -5
Appears we are out on Dainja given Memphis upped his offer. If so, it’s extremely concerning that we can’t put together a top bid for position of extreme need on this roster. Ed can’t punt on this year and hope to carry momentum into year 3. We need a center and we need that center to be top half caliber in the BE. We were super aggressive. This isn’t on Cooley. Who is it on? It’s May 16 and we don’t have a starting center next year., Despite it being the number one need going into the program. And cool telling people directly at fundraising events that we’re getting a big. My check will wait until we get that big |
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Post by hoyariv71 on May 16, 2024 6:24:38 GMT -5
Like it or not SORBER IS OUR STARTING CENTER and we should be praising Cooley for getting him, he’s big time !!!!!!
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Post by BeantownHoya on May 16, 2024 6:39:10 GMT -5
Like it or not SORBER IS OUR STARTING CENTER and we should be praising Cooley for getting him, he’s big time !!!!!! ...I don't really think that is the argument though...I don't think there is a single person on here that is not thrilled about Sorber...I think he's going to be a beast... The problem is when Sorber and Fielder are in foul trouble, or one of them tweaks an ankle, or they miss a game for an illness...whatever scenario you want to play out...they have to have someone capable behind them to play the 5 and they don't... It's May 16th and not April 16th and there is nothing out there in the Portal that we seem to be on... You can do both...praise Cooley for Sorber and question him on how we have not been able to secure a backup Center by now... |
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Post by TC on May 16, 2024 6:56:53 GMT -5
We were super aggressive. This isn’t on Cooley. Who is it on? It’s May 16 and we don’t have a starting center next year., Despite it being the number one need going into the program. And cool telling people directly at fundraising events that we’re getting a big. My check will wait until we get that big Blueandgray is going to blame it on twitter accounts or something - but if your poaching attempt can't survive the program the player is signed to catching wind and upping their bid, what are you even doing? If you want to avoid that program catching wind, what are you doing in California telling people your first priority is a defensive Center and you are going after that defensive Center, much less leaking the name of that player to people like blueandgray (who then posted it on the board along with status reports)? I'm happy with virtually everything else done this offseason but madge is absolutely right - they knew in February that Center was the biggest need, they knew from last year when they whiffed on the 5 market on Hunter Dickinson that this is the toughest and most expensive position in the portal - and yet we had 0 strategy going into this other than throw money at the top of the market, just like last year with Dickinson. Same result. It's May 16th and we're scrambling with 0 targets, just like last year. They had an entire season where games didn't really matter and they could have scouted mid-majors or low-majors for any sort of defensive big - and I don't think they even considered that. Last year, we signed Supreme Cook on June 2. Supreme Cook is still out there, but part of the Hoops Club pitch was that they were going to improve on the defense in the middle, and Supreme went into the portal at the same time as the Omoruyi visit - if you had done absolutely nothing, he may have stayed. Cooley has backed himself into a corner here - they went in front of the Hoop Club in March promising a C. He's publicly acknowledged he needs a center in California. He can't punt on this one because he did that the previous year or point fingers. He needs to deliver a C for next year. But you need a Big East quality C, the only one out there is Onyenso, and UNC is about to smoke us in that recruitment. |
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