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Post by EtomicB on Mar 28, 2024 9:49:16 GMT -5
Hearing we are really close Heard this as well. The Maryland signing of Gillespie seemed to be the move everyone was waiting to see happen here. Once it did, the Mack to G'Town rumour really heated up yesterday evening. I listened to the Thompson's Towel podcast as well last night, it seems like we're heavily after Keyshawn Hall from George Mason as well. Also sounded like Kenny Johnson is still the frontrunner for the open assistant spot, and he played ball with Malik Mack's father back in the day (can't remember if it was high school or college). I'm not a fan of the K. Hall move, he's a good player but this will be his 3rd team in 3 years plus the rumors of how he went about his last few weeks at Mason don't seem to mesh with a program trying to establish something positive. Mack, I like mainly due to his youth but I am concerned that he shot 25% from 3 in Ivy League play. In fairness he did have a nice assist to TO ratio
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Post by CTHoya08 on Mar 28, 2024 9:59:18 GMT -5
Heard this as well. The Maryland signing of Gillespie seemed to be the move everyone was waiting to see happen here. Once it did, the Mack to G'Town rumour really heated up yesterday evening. I listened to the Thompson's Towel podcast as well last night, it seems like we're heavily after Keyshawn Hall from George Mason as well. Also sounded like Kenny Johnson is still the frontrunner for the open assistant spot, and he played ball with Malik Mack's father back in the day (can't remember if it was high school or college). I'm not a fan of the K. Hall move, he's a good player but this will be his 3rd team in 3 years plus the rumors of how he went about his last few weeks at Mason don't seem to mesh with a program trying to establish something positive. Mack, I like mainly due to his youth but I am concerned that he shot 25% from 3 in Ivy League play. In fairness he did have a nice assist to TO ratio I’d be happy if we get Mack and then add a proven shooter as well. With Brumbaugh gone our backcourt is what, Epps and Mulready? I’d have to think we’re looking for two guards regardless.
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Post by trotters10 on Mar 28, 2024 10:06:25 GMT -5
Heard this as well. The Maryland signing of Gillespie seemed to be the move everyone was waiting to see happen here. Once it did, the Mack to G'Town rumour really heated up yesterday evening. I listened to the Thompson's Towel podcast as well last night, it seems like we're heavily after Keyshawn Hall from George Mason as well. Also sounded like Kenny Johnson is still the frontrunner for the open assistant spot, and he played ball with Malik Mack's father back in the day (can't remember if it was high school or college). I'm not a fan of the K. Hall move, he's a good player but this will be his 3rd team in 3 years plus the rumors of how he went about his last few weeks at Mason don't seem to mesh with a program trying to establish something positive. Mack, I like mainly due to his youth but I am concerned that he shot 25% from 3 in Ivy League play. In fairness he did have a nice assist to TO ratio I agree and respectfully disagree on the Keyshawn Hall points there. I also am not a fan of a guy kind of mentally checking out on their team near the end of the season. There's arguments to be made both ways. I know he had a minor injury and was said to protecting himself (which is his right I suppose), but that doesn't necessarily scream team-first type guy. My hope is he's young and that's just how a lot of guys are these days because of the portal and NIL (I don't like it, but I guess I get it as well). My hope is if he comes here, Cooley will have him playing for the team on the front of the jersey and not the name on the back. Cooley has a really good track record in these situations. On the other hand, he's a super talented kid, with good height, solid body. He's a hybrid guard/forward who can do a bit of everything. He defends pretty well, has enough bulk to defend the 4 and enough quickness to handle 3's (if he comes here, I think you can easily play him at the 4 and have Dontrez at the 3 for those small lineups). He's an excellent rebounder, and can hit the 3 (shoots a pretty good clip from there in his 2 years between Mason and UNLV). Solid handles. I personally think he'd be a heck of a pickup if we can land him. He has skills you can't necessarily teach, and I trust Cooley to get the best out of him when it comes to effort/motor. I really hope we land him!
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Post by thedragon on Mar 28, 2024 10:08:31 GMT -5
Heard this as well. The Maryland signing of Gillespie seemed to be the move everyone was waiting to see happen here. Once it did, the Mack to G'Town rumour really heated up yesterday evening. I listened to the Thompson's Towel podcast as well last night, it seems like we're heavily after Keyshawn Hall from George Mason as well. Also sounded like Kenny Johnson is still the frontrunner for the open assistant spot, and he played ball with Malik Mack's father back in the day (can't remember if it was high school or college). I'm not a fan of the K. Hall move, he's a good player but this will be his 3rd team in 3 years plus the rumors of how he went about his last few weeks at Mason don't seem to mesh with a program trying to establish something positive. Mack, I like mainly due to his youth but I am concerned that he shot 25% from 3 in Ivy League play. In fairness he did have a nice assist to TO ratio I'd be curious macks 3 point % pre-Mono vs post. Others have alluded to his play taking a dip for a while when he first came back from the illness.
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Post by trotters10 on Mar 28, 2024 10:11:54 GMT -5
I'm not a fan of the K. Hall move, he's a good player but this will be his 3rd team in 3 years plus the rumors of how he went about his last few weeks at Mason don't seem to mesh with a program trying to establish something positive. Mack, I like mainly due to his youth but I am concerned that he shot 25% from 3 in Ivy League play. In fairness he did have a nice assist to TO ratio I’d be happy if we get Mack and then add a proven shooter as well. With Brumbaugh gone our backcourt is what, Epps and Mulready? I’d have to think we’re looking for two guards regardless. Look for Goodine out of Fairfield here. Top 3 in 3 point percentage in the NCAA last year. Veteran guy, who would be your 3 point marksman (every team needs one!). Mack and Epps can draw in defenses and kick it out to him (I'm a believer in Epps having a lot more passing ability than we saw last year, once you surround him with more talent). Mack and Epps being your scorers/slashers. Goodine being the 3 point shooter, and Mulready your lunch box type guy who can really defend. I think he'll see 8-12 minutes a game, he's a player. I may be jumping the gun here, but a man can hope!
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Post by dariantownesvanzandt on Mar 28, 2024 10:21:03 GMT -5
I'm not a fan of the K. Hall move, he's a good player but this will be his 3rd team in 3 years plus the rumors of how he went about his last few weeks at Mason don't seem to mesh with a program trying to establish something positive. Mack, I like mainly due to his youth but I am concerned that he shot 25% from 3 in Ivy League play. In fairness he did have a nice assist to TO ratio I'd be curious macks 3 point % pre-Mono vs post. Others have alluded to his play taking a dip for a while when he first came back from the illness. He shot 50% from the field over the first month of the season (til Dec 1). Then from the two games before he was out (was he sick already?) to the remainder of the year he shot just 36%. From 3, it was 44% before December 1 and 30% after.
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Post by OmaHoya on Mar 28, 2024 10:43:44 GMT -5
Has the Thompson’s Towel podcast gotten better? I tried to listen to it when it first started, but gave up when the hosts went on and on about how “Brendan” Murray would be our best player that season. I have a difficult time discerning if they actually know anything or if they're just fans like the rest of us, willing want they want to happen with their commentary.
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Post by EtomicB on Mar 28, 2024 11:31:53 GMT -5
I'm not a fan of the K. Hall move, he's a good player but this will be his 3rd team in 3 years plus the rumors of how he went about his last few weeks at Mason don't seem to mesh with a program trying to establish something positive. Mack, I like mainly due to his youth but I am concerned that he shot 25% from 3 in Ivy League play. In fairness he did have a nice assist to TO ratio I agree and respectfully disagree on the Keyshawn Hall points there. I also am not a fan of a guy kind of mentally checking out on their team near the end of the season. There's arguments to be made both ways. I know he had a minor injury and was said to protecting himself (which is his right I suppose), but that doesn't necessarily scream team-first type guy. My hope is he's young and that's just how a lot of guys are these days because of the portal and NIL (I don't like it, but I guess I get it as well). My hope is if he comes here, Cooley will have him playing for the team on the front of the jersey and not the name on the back. Cooley has a really good track record in these situations. On the other hand, he's a super talented kid, with good height, solid body. He's a hybrid guard/forward who can do a bit of everything. He defends pretty well, has enough bulk to defend the 4 and enough quickness to handle 3's (if he comes here, I think you can easily play him at the 4 and have Dontrez at the 3 for those small lineups). He's an excellent rebounder, and can hit the 3 (shoots a pretty good clip from there in his 2 years between Mason and UNLV). Solid handles. I personally think he'd be a heck of a pickup if we can land him. He has skills you can't necessarily teach, and I trust Cooley to get the best out of him when it comes to effort/motor. I really hope we land him! He didn't play much @ UNLV so I get why he left but @ Mason he was showcased why leave a staff that obviously believes in you? If the answer is for the cash then I don't think he's the right fit for Gtown at this time.
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Post by EtomicB on Mar 28, 2024 11:37:08 GMT -5
I’d be happy if we get Mack and then add a proven shooter as well. With Brumbaugh gone our backcourt is what, Epps and Mulready? I’d have to think we’re looking for two guards regardless. Look for Goodine out of Fairfield here. Top 3 in 3 point percentage in the NCAA last year. Veteran guy, who would be your 3 point marksman (every team needs one!). Mack and Epps can draw in defenses and kick it out to him (I'm a believer in Epps having a lot more passing ability than we saw last year, once you surround him with more talent). Mack and Epps being your scorers/slashers. Goodine being the 3 point shooter, and Mulready your lunch box type guy who can really defend. I think he'll see 8-12 minutes a game, he's a player. I may be jumping the gun here, but a man can hope! I'm skeptical about Goodine too, he didn't play at Cuse then transferred to PC where Cooley didn't play him for two years before he left for Fairfield.
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Post by hoyaboya on Mar 28, 2024 11:56:05 GMT -5
Look for Goodine out of Fairfield here. Top 3 in 3 point percentage in the NCAA last year. Veteran guy, who would be your 3 point marksman (every team needs one!). Mack and Epps can draw in defenses and kick it out to him (I'm a believer in Epps having a lot more passing ability than we saw last year, once you surround him with more talent). Mack and Epps being your scorers/slashers. Goodine being the 3 point shooter, and Mulready your lunch box type guy who can really defend. I think he'll see 8-12 minutes a game, he's a player. I may be jumping the gun here, but a man can hope! I'm skeptical about Goodine too, he didn't play at Cuse then transferred to PC where Cooley didn't play him for two years before he left for Fairfield. Fair comments but if he's a cheap (<$100K) 1-year sniper, he's worth a shot. I'd rather use a roster spot than not use it, would like to avoid getting caught empty-handed like last season.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Mar 28, 2024 12:00:42 GMT -5
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Post by EtomicB on Mar 28, 2024 12:54:06 GMT -5
I'm skeptical about Goodine too, he didn't play at Cuse then transferred to PC where Cooley didn't play him for two years before he left for Fairfield. Fair comments but if he's a cheap (<$100K) 1-year sniper, he's worth a shot. I'd rather use a roster spot than not use it, would like to avoid getting caught empty-handed like last season. So you're saying Epps, Mack, Mulready & Goodine will man the backcourt next season?
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Post by dense on Mar 28, 2024 13:50:05 GMT -5
Heard this as well. The Maryland signing of Gillespie seemed to be the move everyone was waiting to see happen here. Once it did, the Mack to G'Town rumour really heated up yesterday evening. I listened to the Thompson's Towel podcast as well last night, it seems like we're heavily after Keyshawn Hall from George Mason as well. Also sounded like Kenny Johnson is still the frontrunner for the open assistant spot, and he played ball with Malik Mack's father back in the day (can't remember if it was high school or college). I'm not a fan of the K. Hall move, he's a good player but this will be his 3rd team in 3 years plus the rumors of how he went about his last few weeks at Mason don't seem to mesh with a program trying to establish something positive. Mack, I like mainly due to his youth but I am concerned that he shot 25% from 3 in Ivy League play. In fairness he did have a nice assist to TO ratio Not really worrying about his shooting going down because he had mono and missed a whole month of practice.
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Post by ndhoyafan on Mar 28, 2024 14:18:41 GMT -5
Looks like some of the pieces are starting to fall. On3 has Dug crystal balled to TCU and 247 has Sky Clarke Headed to UCLA. Could be just guesses but shows some movement in the portal. Another name I would love to see the Hoyas entertain is Zeke Mayo from SDSU. Good size, 3 level scorer and plays solid D. Couple years left of eligibility left and has tournament experience. No connection to Cooley I am aware of but would be a good get.
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Post by madgesiq92 on Mar 28, 2024 14:22:48 GMT -5
Heard this as well. The Maryland signing of Gillespie seemed to be the move everyone was waiting to see happen here. Once it did, the Mack to G'Town rumour really heated up yesterday evening. I listened to the Thompson's Towel podcast as well last night, it seems like we're heavily after Keyshawn Hall from George Mason as well. Also sounded like Kenny Johnson is still the frontrunner for the open assistant spot, and he played ball with Malik Mack's father back in the day (can't remember if it was high school or college). I'm not a fan of the K. Hall move, he's a good player but this will be his 3rd team in 3 years plus the rumors of how he went about his last few weeks at Mason don't seem to mesh with a program trying to establish something positive. Mack, I like mainly due to his youth but I am concerned that he shot 25% from 3 in Ivy League play. In fairness he did have a nice assist to TO ratio stop looking at stats and watch the kid play---Mack would be a big time get for Hoyas.
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Post by dense on Mar 28, 2024 14:24:39 GMT -5
Looks like some of the pieces are starting to fall. On3 has Dug crystal balled to TCU and 247 has Sky Clarke Headed to UCLA. Could be just guesses but shows some movement in the portal. Another name I would love to see the Hoyas entertain is Zeke Mayo from SDSU. Good size, 3 level scorer and plays solid D. Couple years left of eligibility left and has tournament experience. No connection to Cooley I am aware of but would be a good get. Mayo is from Lawrence, KS. Everything I've seen it is Kansas or NBA for him.
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Post by hoyaboya on Mar 28, 2024 14:26:41 GMT -5
Fair comments but if he's a cheap (<$100K) 1-year sniper, he's worth a shot. I'd rather use a roster spot than not use it, would like to avoid getting caught empty-handed like last season. So you're saying Epps, Mack, Mulready & Goodine will man the backcourt next season? Not if I was making the roster, 1 of those 4 wouldn't be on it and I'd add another guy that would be a "long" wiry, good shooting type.
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Post by EtomicB on Mar 28, 2024 14:39:19 GMT -5
I'm not a fan of the K. Hall move, he's a good player but this will be his 3rd team in 3 years plus the rumors of how he went about his last few weeks at Mason don't seem to mesh with a program trying to establish something positive. Mack, I like mainly due to his youth but I am concerned that he shot 25% from 3 in Ivy League play. In fairness he did have a nice assist to TO ratio stop looking at stats and watch the kid play---Mack would be a big time get for Hoyas. dense His numbers dipped in the last six weeks of the season, I hope you're right though. I've seen him play several times, he's a good player but as we saw with Dingle from Penn making the jump to the BE isn't easy. We can use Ashworth from Creighton as another example
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Post by hoyazeke on Mar 28, 2024 15:41:19 GMT -5
I agree and respectfully disagree on the Keyshawn Hall points there. I also am not a fan of a guy kind of mentally checking out on their team near the end of the season. There's arguments to be made both ways. I know he had a minor injury and was said to protecting himself (which is his right I suppose), but that doesn't necessarily scream team-first type guy. My hope is he's young and that's just how a lot of guys are these days because of the portal and NIL (I don't like it, but I guess I get it as well). My hope is if he comes here, Cooley will have him playing for the team on the front of the jersey and not the name on the back. Cooley has a really good track record in these situations. On the other hand, he's a super talented kid, with good height, solid body. He's a hybrid guard/forward who can do a bit of everything. He defends pretty well, has enough bulk to defend the 4 and enough quickness to handle 3's (if he comes here, I think you can easily play him at the 4 and have Dontrez at the 3 for those small lineups). He's an excellent rebounder, and can hit the 3 (shoots a pretty good clip from there in his 2 years between Mason and UNLV). Solid handles. I personally think he'd be a heck of a pickup if we can land him. He has skills you can't necessarily teach, and I trust Cooley to get the best out of him when it comes to effort/motor. I really hope we land him! He didn't play much @ UNLV so I get why he left but @ Mason he was showcased why leave a staff that obviously believes in you? If the answer is for the cash then I don't think he's the right fit for Gtown at this time. It doesn't necessarily have to be cash...it could be wanting to play on a bigger stage and still maintaining a decent role. At GTown he could be anywhere from 1st to 3rd option on a team in a bigger conference...or he could be 1st option in a lesser conference....NIL money could just be a bonus....I'm not pro or anti Keyshawn but we definitely could use a extra bucket on the wings.
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Post by dense on Mar 28, 2024 16:10:07 GMT -5
stop looking at stats and watch the kid play---Mack would be a big time get for Hoyas. dense His numbers dipped in the last six weeks of the season, I hope you're right though. I've seen him play several times, he's a good player but as we saw with Dingle from Penn making the jump to the BE isn't easy. We can use Ashworth from Creighton as another example I mean if it was an arm injury sure or even an ankle I'd question it but Mono is a soul zapping thing. I'm sure he didn't really work out at all during it to the level to play Div 1 hoops so I'm sure he hit a wall at the end. Kinda logical given the condition.
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