hoyarooter
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Post by hoyarooter on Feb 18, 2020 20:08:52 GMT -5
How does Roy Miller consistently get the very best players in the country, even after very bad years? With all due respect to Coach Miller, Patrick Ewing has a lot more expertise to offer the best big men coming out of secondary school than Roy Miller or his staff. Hate to sound cynical, but... On the off chance you're talking about Roy Williams, Patrick Ewing has never made the tournament and Roy Williams has 9 Final Fours, so maybe slow your roll. 3 National championships, right?
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Post by EtomicB on Feb 21, 2020 13:13:19 GMT -5
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Post by RBHoya on Feb 21, 2020 13:23:20 GMT -5
Not sure the logic on a waiver to be immediately eligible. They played this season, at a minimum they should have to sit first semester of next year. When they didn't get the minutes they felt entitled to, they assumed they were entitled to 2 spots across town. When that didn't pan out they decided to take their act north, and now feel entitled to a waiver to play right away. Bit of a recurring theme with this family.
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Post by friarj on Feb 21, 2020 17:25:22 GMT -5
I know nothing about them but man am I hearing a bunch of negative stuff now. Can they actually play?
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Post by hoyaboya on Feb 21, 2020 17:37:36 GMT -5
I know nothing about them but man am I hearing a bunch of negative stuff now. Can they actually play? Are they committed?
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Post by gambo on Feb 21, 2020 17:46:35 GMT -5
One is good, the other not. Evidently questionable, attitudes, according to Maryland peeps
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TC
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Post by TC on Feb 21, 2020 18:32:28 GMT -5
Not sure the logic on a waiver to be immediately eligible. They played this season, at a minimum they should have to sit first semester of next year. When they didn't get the minutes they felt entitled to, they assumed they were entitled to 2 spots across town. When that didn't pan out they decided to take their act north, and now feel entitled to a waiver to play right away. Bit of a recurring theme with this family. Logic would be that they were run off, and it sounds like at least one of them was.
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Post by madgesiq92 on Feb 22, 2020 20:38:31 GMT -5
Watching Yale-Columbia. Mike Smith will definitely be an impact grad transfer. Hope we get involved.
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Post by TC on Feb 23, 2020 13:01:42 GMT -5
If we could somehow land both Smith and Barry, that would be the dream scenario and one in which you could actually dream on an NCAA bid in 2021.
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Post by dchoya72 on Feb 24, 2020 7:35:27 GMT -5
Why do we need as another short guard?
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Post by RBHoya on Feb 24, 2020 7:52:28 GMT -5
Why do we need as another short guard? The freshmen point guards we have coming in next year don't seem likely to be ready to run a Big East team out of the gate. It's difficult to have success with a freshman point guard at a high major, nevermind a freshman point guard who had only one high major offer. I think both Beard and Harris may be contributors in time, and may even be able to contribute off the bench next year. But if they're the primary option at point guard it may be a long year. This year has shown the value of veteran leadership at the point guard position. It would be nice to have something similar next year and give the next generation some time to grow into their roles. I also think we could stand to have a little more shooting. Mike Smith is terrific but may be hard to land. I think Brendan Barry makes a lot of sense as a grad transfer. He brings senior leadership and has been one of the best players in the Ivy League the last couple years. He shot 44.5% from 3 point range last year, and 86% from the line. He can be your lead guard but also help you spread the floor. Considering that his grandfather played at Georgetown and he was a Government major at Dartmouth, it makes a ton of sense on the surface. Hopefully we are pursuing it. There hasn't been any news at all on who he is considering, as best I can tell. If neither of those pans out, there will be other options once the season ends. I think we need a grad transfer point guard. It's possible that we start one of the freshmen and it's possible that we start McClung and Blair in the backcourt without a traditional tablesetter, but neither options seems ideal. If we get a quality grad transfer point guard to go along with McClung, Blair, Pickett and Wahab I think we'll be much better positioned to compete next season.
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Post by dchoya72 on Feb 24, 2020 9:04:53 GMT -5
You could be right, but I would like to see a bigger, taller point guard to augment who we have in the fold.
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Post by TC on Feb 24, 2020 9:41:11 GMT -5
You could be right, but I would like to see a bigger, taller point guard to augment who we have in the fold. I don't think Terrell Allen's height is why he's been so good and why he stabilized the team in December. I really think it is his maturity, and the only way the team competes next year is by adding more of that, especially at the primary ballhandler position.
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Post by AshantiCooksBurner on Feb 24, 2020 12:38:16 GMT -5
Mike Smith would be an absolute home run grad transfer, but Barry seems like a very realistic fall back plan. We wouldn't need Barry to carry the team on his back, but someone that can run the offense, not turn the ball over and help Beard/Harris transition into Big East players would be huge. I think Beard can be capable if he has to, but Barry/Smith would make me feel a whole lot better. Smith/Mac/Blair/Beard is a solid backcourt rotation. I think Harris will take some more time, but it's hard to tell.
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Post by professorhoya on Feb 24, 2020 13:40:10 GMT -5
Why do we need as another short guard? The freshmen point guards we have coming in next year don't seem likely to be ready to run a Big East team out of the gate. It's difficult to have success with a freshman point guard at a high major, nevermind a freshman point guard who had only one high major offer. I think both Beard and Harris may be contributors in time, and may even be able to contribute off the bench next year. But if they're the primary option at point guard it may be a long year. This year has shown the value of veteran leadership at the point guard position. It would be nice to have something similar next year and give the next generation some time to grow into their roles. I also think we could stand to have a little more shooting. Mike Smith is terrific but may be hard to land. I think Brendan Barry makes a lot of sense as a grad transfer. He brings senior leadership and has been one of the best players in the Ivy League the last couple years. He shot 44.5% from 3 point range last year, and 86% from the line. He can be your lead guard but also help you spread the floor. Considering that his grandfather played at Georgetown and he was a Government major at Dartmouth, it makes a ton of sense on the surface. Hopefully we are pursuing it. There hasn't been any news at all on who he is considering, as best I can tell. If neither of those pans out, there will be other options once the season ends. I think we need a grad transfer point guard. It's possible that we start one of the freshmen and it's possible that we start McClung and Blair in the backcourt without a traditional tablesetter, but neither options seems ideal. If we get a quality grad transfer point guard to go along with McClung, Blair, Pickett and Wahab I think we'll be much better positioned to compete next season. I think if this year has taught us anything it's that you can be successful in college if you have 4-5 true guards and some bigs even with transfers and injuries whereas if you lack real guards (the last stages of the III era) you will not do well no matter how many wings you have.
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Post by EasyEd on Feb 24, 2020 13:52:05 GMT -5
A little off topic but, with the likely? rule change allowing many more transfers without sitting out a year, it may be time to hire staff with no other duties than identifying likely transfers and developing methodology to approach them without violating NCAA rules. This is likely one of the most important methods of recruiting in the future. Let's get ahead of the curve for once.
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Post by calhoya on Feb 24, 2020 13:52:23 GMT -5
The freshmen point guards we have coming in next year don't seem likely to be ready to run a Big East team out of the gate. It's difficult to have success with a freshman point guard at a high major, nevermind a freshman point guard who had only one high major offer. I think both Beard and Harris may be contributors in time, and may even be able to contribute off the bench next year. But if they're the primary option at point guard it may be a long year. This year has shown the value of veteran leadership at the point guard position. It would be nice to have something similar next year and give the next generation some time to grow into their roles. I also think we could stand to have a little more shooting. Mike Smith is terrific but may be hard to land. I think Brendan Barry makes a lot of sense as a grad transfer. He brings senior leadership and has been one of the best players in the Ivy League the last couple years. He shot 44.5% from 3 point range last year, and 86% from the line. He can be your lead guard but also help you spread the floor. Considering that his grandfather played at Georgetown and he was a Government major at Dartmouth, it makes a ton of sense on the surface. Hopefully we are pursuing it. There hasn't been any news at all on who he is considering, as best I can tell. If neither of those pans out, there will be other options once the season ends. I think we need a grad transfer point guard. It's possible that we start one of the freshmen and it's possible that we start McClung and Blair in the backcourt without a traditional tablesetter, but neither options seems ideal. If we get a quality grad transfer point guard to go along with McClung, Blair, Pickett and Wahab I think we'll be much better positioned to compete next season. I think if this year has taught us anything it's that you can be successful in college if you have 4-5 true guards and some bigs even with transfers and injuries whereas if you lack real guards (the last stages of the III era) you will not do well no matter how many wings you have. Provided that at least two of the guards can hit the deep shot consistently.
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Post by professorhoya on Feb 24, 2020 13:55:13 GMT -5
A little off topic but, with the likely? rule change allowing many more transfers without sitting out a year, it may be time to hire staff with no other duties than identifying likely transfers and developing methodology to approach them without violating NCAA rules. This is likely one of the most important methods of recruiting in the future. Let's get ahead of the curve for once. You could volunteer to do this position. Anyone could really do it if they are dedicated.
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Post by professorhoya on Feb 24, 2020 13:55:50 GMT -5
I think if this year has taught us anything it's that you can be successful in college if you have 4-5 true guards and some bigs even with transfers and injuries whereas if you lack real guards (the last stages of the III era) you will not do well no matter how many wings you have. Provided that at least two of the guards can hit the deep shot consistently. That's part of being a "real" guard. If you can't hit shots you aren't a real guard.
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Post by kbones17 on Feb 24, 2020 14:36:38 GMT -5
We need a bigger guard who can play defense. Hitting three’s would be nice too, the biggest need is someone who can lock down opposing guards. We are losing our two best perimeter defenders.
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