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Post by hoyariv71 on May 4, 2024 15:18:19 GMT -5
Achor Achor, come on down! [b Yes loved anchor highlights
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Post by nbhoya on May 5, 2024 12:13:31 GMT -5
Running out of options
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Post by prhoya on May 5, 2024 13:28:34 GMT -5
Cannot blame the kid for picking Alabama, a winning program that will have him in the NCAAT next year… Cooley’s wasted first year has its consequences in building next year’s roster. The bright side is that there’s still time and plenty of good players to build a winning roster for next year.
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Post by hoyariv71 on May 5, 2024 14:37:52 GMT -5
I still believe Sorber is our starting center next year, I still don’t think cliff is a good fit with Thomas, I would pay achor achor. A lot different game, koney, fit and now a lot more teams involved.
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Post by hoyariv71 on May 5, 2024 14:49:44 GMT -5
Arthur Kamila? I like highlights
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Post by jwp91 on May 5, 2024 15:34:07 GMT -5
We need a veteran, defensive first center that can play 20 minutes a game to take the pressure off of Drew and Sorber. We may not get it.
When life deals you lemons, I guess you make lemonade. We do need more big bodies. We can't play successfully with 2 bigs.
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Post by lichoya68 on May 5, 2024 17:29:13 GMT -5
We need a veteran, defensive first center that can play 20 minutes a game to take the pressure off of Drew and Sorber. We may not get it. When life deals you lemons, I guess you make lemonade. We do need more big bodies. We can't play successfully with 2 bigs. Is Louisville center available if comes outa draft 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
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Post by BeantownHoya on May 5, 2024 18:13:18 GMT -5
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Post by pioneeer on May 5, 2024 19:33:33 GMT -5
Jordan Burks on the Hilltop today per source?
That’s strange and very interesting. I read that Jordan Burks had committed to Arkansas 100%.
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Post by jwp91 on May 5, 2024 20:11:28 GMT -5
Trilly made the point that no one is actually committed until they show up in the fall.
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Post by jwp91 on May 5, 2024 20:13:49 GMT -5
Burke looks like an interesting possibility. Looks like our front court is going to be really, really, really green.
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Post by prhoya on May 5, 2024 20:18:21 GMT -5
A 6’8” - 6’9” rising sophomore who averaged 7 mpg and 1.2 ppg? And we have several players of his size? Pass. We need a proven upperclass rental big for a year.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on May 5, 2024 21:34:36 GMT -5
A 6’8” - 6’9” rising sophomore who averaged 7 mpg and 1.2 ppg? And we have several players of his size? Pass. We need a proven upperclass rental big for a year. I want an upperclassman big who is good on defense, too. But, we seeem to be whiffing on the upperclass rental bigs. We still need one, but if none are out there and willing to commit and the best option for our slots is a 6'8 to 6'9 rising sophomore, then we should go get him. We still have what 4 scholarships? We do not have the luxury of waiting around for other bigs and let other guys slip away to other schools. But yes, this transfer portal season has been disappointing so far.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on May 5, 2024 21:45:49 GMT -5
I find it humorous when people reference Connecticut or make comparisons to other successful programs. We aren't in the same stratosphere with many of those programs at the moment. We can be. But we aren't now. Why the snark? It’s aspirational. It’s a program to use as a model of what is working under these rules. No one said we’re in the same stratosphere. No one said we’re going to get the same quality of players right now. Watch how they build, just two freshmen and the transfers are upperclassmen. That’s why I watch the FF, to see what is working, how winning teams are built, how they are coached, etc… In the meantime, as is, Cooley lost all of this year’s players, except two. We have just two upperclassmen and a whole lot of inexperience and underclassmen. What needs to happen is for Cooley to balance the team with 3 upperclass transfers, including a big. Have you noticed how you and others are no longer mentioning Cooley’s exceptional ability to retain players? It’s a different world. I find it humorous when you mention Cooley at Fairfield, which was before the birth of the new BE and our future was bright under JT3. You have mentioned Duke a lot. Until GU can get 3 of the top 15 high school players in the same class and 6 of the top 50, Duke is not a good example. Besides, I don’t think that’s a championship formula. I am fine with aspiring to be as good as Connecticut, or to have less attrition like they do. But whenever it comes to retention, people throw out the examples of Connecticut and Marquette, and I just don't think it's pertinent to where we are right now. It's also interesting how people rarely mention that Georgetown had fewer guys enter the portal than a lot of the other programs in the conference that were better than us. As for Cooley's retention, I have been on record--now multiple times--saying I wanted to retain Brumbuagh, Styles, and Cook. I am not happy we lost them, though I understand why we did. As far as retention, yes, Ed Cooley had a good record before Georgetown. Do I think that his record of retention at Georgetown in Year 1 after a horrible season was great? No. But, it's one season after we were horrible. And as you rightly point out, it is a "different world," and I think retaining players is much harder now than it was. As far as Fairfield and Duke, your points are quite weak. The only thing I've said about Fairfield are that (a) Cooley turned them around, and (b) the defense was better generally than our defense last year. It's pretty obvious that Cooley wasn't getting prime talent at Fairfield, and yet he turned them around anyway, so I think the example is still useful. As far as Duke, you say "Duke is not a good example." Of what? I used them as an example of a team that lost 0 players to the portal last year, and 6 or 7 this year to show that the same coach can do an ace job of retention one year and a bad one the next year. Point being--even successful teams and coaches can lose players in this environment, and so retention is hard. That's it. I never used them as an example of a model Georgetown should follow.
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Post by lichoya68 on May 5, 2024 22:06:13 GMT -5
Why the snark? It’s aspirational. It’s a program to use as a model of what is working under these rules. No one said we’re in the same stratosphere. No one said we’re going to get the same quality of players right now. Watch how they build, just two freshmen and the transfers are upperclassmen. That’s why I watch the FF, to see what is working, how winning teams are built, how they are coached, etc… In the meantime, as is, Cooley lost all of this year’s players, except two. We have just two upperclassmen and a whole lot of inexperience and underclassmen. What needs to happen is for Cooley to balance the team with 3 upperclass transfers, including a big. Have you noticed how you and others are no longer mentioning Cooley’s exceptional ability to retain players? It’s a different world. I find it humorous when you mention Cooley at Fairfield, which was before the birth of the new BE and our future was bright under JT3. You have mentioned Duke a lot. Until GU can get 3 of the top 15 high school players in the same class and 6 of the top 50, Duke is not a good example. Besides, I don’t think that’s a championship formula. I am fine with aspiring to be as good as Connecticut, or to have less attrition like they do. But whenever it comes to retention, people throw out the examples of Connecticut and Marquette, and I just don't think it's pertinent to where we are right now. It's also interesting how people rarely mention that Georgetown had fewer guys enter the portal than a lot of the other programs in the conference that were better than us. As for Cooley's retention, I have been on record--now multiple times--saying I wanted to retain Brumbuagh, Styles, and Cook. I am not happy we lost them, though I understand why we did. As far as retention, yes, Ed Cooley had a good record before Georgetown. Do I think that his record of retention at Georgetown in Year 1 after a horrible season was great? No. But, it's one season after we were horrible. And as you rightly point out, it is a "different world," and I think retaining players is much harder now than it was. As far as Fairfield and Duke, your points are quite weak. The only thing I've said about Fairfield are that (a) Cooley turned them around, and (b) the defense was better generally than our defense last year. It's pretty obvious that Cooley wasn't getting prime talent at Fairfield, and yet he turned them around anyway, so I think the example is still useful. As far as Duke, you say "Duke is not a good example." Of what? I used them as an example of a team that lost 0 players to the portal last year, and 6 or 7 this year to show that the same coach can do an ace job of retention one year and a bad one the next year. Point being--even successful teams and coaches can lose players in this environment, and so retention is hard. That's it. I never used them as an example of a model Georgetown should follow. Good points
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Post by prhoya on May 5, 2024 22:19:13 GMT -5
A 6’8” - 6’9” rising sophomore who averaged 7 mpg and 1.2 ppg? And we have several players of his size? Pass. We need a proven upperclass rental big for a year. I want an upperclassman big who is good on defense, too. But, we seeem to be whiffing on the upperclass rental bigs. We still need one, but if none are out there and willing to commit and the best option for our slots is a 6'8 to 6'9 rising sophomore, then we should go get him. We still have what 4 scholarships? We do not have the luxury of waiting around for other bigs and let other guys slip away to other schools. Disagree. Cooley seems to be following prospects from the cachet name schools and those familiar to him. There are more players with better profiles in the portal and we need the NIL$. If he’s cheap, then take him. Heck, I would take Cook at a discount over him and make Cook play like a paint bruiser for no more than 20 mpg.
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Post by prhoya on May 5, 2024 22:57:22 GMT -5
It's also interesting how people rarely mention that Georgetown had fewer guys enter the portal than a lot of the other programs in the conference that were better than us. What do you mean? Last year we had 9 scholarship players and 7 eligible to return. Of those, 5 entered the portal and just two returned. That’s awful. If you’re saying we ONLY had 5, it’s because we didn’t have enough players to begin with. That is, 71% of the eligible players left. As for Cooley's retention, I have been on record--now multiple times--saying I wanted to retain Brumbuagh, Styles, and Cook. I am not happy we lost them, though I understand why we did. As far as retention, yes, Ed Cooley had a good record before Georgetown. Do I think that his record of retention at Georgetown in Year 1 after a horrible season was great? No. But, it's one season after we were horrible. And as you rightly point out, it is a "different world," and I think retaining players is much harder now than it was. The fact is that he was awful in building the team and retaining players this year, and it’s a wasted first year here. Cooley took responsibility for it. That said, there’s still time to turn it around and I’ve been on record that we are a big and a shooter away from having a real shot at the NCAAT next year. As far as Fairfield and Duke, your points are quite weak. The only thing I've said about Fairfield are that (a) Cooley turned them around, and (b) the defense was better generally than our defense last year. It's pretty obvious that Cooley wasn't getting prime talent at Fairfield, and yet he turned them around anyway, so I think the example is still useful. As far as Duke, you say "Duke is not a good example." Of what? I used them as an example of a team that lost 0 players to the portal last year, and 6 or 7 this year to show that the same coach can do an ace job of retention one year and a bad one the next year. Point being--even successful teams and coaches can lose players in this environment, and so retention is hard. That's it. I never used them as an example of a model Georgetown should follow. Quite weak? Humorous. Whatever worked for Cooley at Fairfield is not useful now. Different rules and different level. As Cooley told us, he never thought it was going to be so difficult to recruit the top portal players to Georgetown. As for Duke, Scheyer’s first class was small and fit into the roster he inherited (but recruited for K). This year’s class is a monster class to replace the future NBAers and recruit over what was there. One year cannot be compared to the other. It’ll be interesting to find out what kind of NIL$ Stewart and Power get from their new schools. I imagine most of Duke’s NIL$ is going to the top-class freshmen and transfers. There probably wasn’t much left for the #9-13 players.
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Post by dense on May 6, 2024 7:55:59 GMT -5
With Stewart I don't know if it was money. His dad seemed pretty set on him going to Ohio St.
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